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Re: Amateur League Looking at taking over Junior Football

PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2017 8:18 pm
by gadj1976
3 wins no losses so I'm not complaining because we lost. Gripes are with umpires turning up asking the coaches to teach them the rules (U8s). Thats not on im my mind especially since we said one of the conditions of moving over was an increased standard of umpiring. So far we are not getting it.

Re: Amateur League Looking at taking over Junior Football

PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2017 9:28 pm
by Demon Juke
gadj1976 wrote:3 wins no losses so I'm not complaining because we lost. Gripes are with umpires turning up asking the coaches to teach them the rules (U8s). Thats not on im my mind especially since we said one of the conditions of moving over was an increased standard of umpiring. So far we are not getting it.


At least your umpire turned up :shock:

Re: Amateur League Looking at taking over Junior Football

PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 10:52 am
by TEX07
Demon Juke wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:3 wins no losses so I'm not complaining because we lost. Gripes are with umpires turning up asking the coaches to teach them the rules (U8s). Thats not on im my mind especially since we said one of the conditions of moving over was an increased standard of umpiring. So far we are not getting it.


At least your umpire turned up :shock:


this was a common occurrence round 1 in junior levels i believe - we had no one turn up to TTG Under 7s and was just told to "get the coach to do it".

round 2 was fine though and to be fair the umpire was pretty good - only a young kid but did well IMO.

Re: Amateur League Looking at taking over Junior Football

PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 11:06 am
by Executive Member
Demon Juke wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:3 wins no losses so I'm not complaining because we lost. Gripes are with umpires turning up asking the coaches to teach them the rules (U8s). Thats not on im my mind especially since we said one of the conditions of moving over was an increased standard of umpiring. So far we are not getting it.


At least your umpire turned up :shock:


must have been the U/8's turn to miss out on umpires this week, none for Broadview's 2 teams

Re: Amateur League Looking at taking over Junior Football

PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 11:45 am
by Lightning McQueen
gadj1976 wrote:3 wins no losses so I'm not complaining because we lost. Gripes are with umpires turning up asking the coaches to teach them the rules (U8s). Thats not on im my mind especially since we said one of the conditions of moving over was an increased standard of umpiring. So far we are not getting it.

To be honest with you it was a factor of why I stopped umpiring juniors, the rule variances from age group to age group was ridiculous and then they'd chuck you in a foreign grade with no notice.

Doing a Under 6 game then an Under 16 Red game straight after on a Friday night then an 11's and then a 15's on Sunday threw my brain out.

Chuck in a couple of Saturday country games and a SAWFL match on the Saturday night and I'd be cooked.

Re: Amateur League Looking at taking over Junior Football

PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 12:05 pm
by The Hound
Think one of the issues is that there must be a mentor umpiring with the young umpires in the higher grades where points and finals are on offer. This impacts the numbers of umpires available for the Under 11 and below age groups.

Heard on Friday night they were short of umpires for Sunday's games!

Re: Amateur League Looking at taking over Junior Football

PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 2:50 pm
by gadj1976
Executive Member wrote:
Demon Juke wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:3 wins no losses so I'm not complaining because we lost. Gripes are with umpires turning up asking the coaches to teach them the rules (U8s). Thats not on im my mind especially since we said one of the conditions of moving over was an increased standard of umpiring. So far we are not getting it.


At least your umpire turned up :shock:


must have been the U/8's turn to miss out on umpires this week, none for Broadview's 2 teams


we played Broadies U8's on the weekend. Which game - we were at the Southern end of the ground at 9.30. That might explain why he wasn't prepared to umpire.

I heard a story yesterday that the SANFL umpires coach had said they were 40 umpires short (don't know how long ago this was).

For $40 bucks an U8's game, I should do it myself!

Re: Amateur League Looking at taking over Junior Football

PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 2:55 pm
by Executive Member
gadj1976 wrote:
Executive Member wrote:
Demon Juke wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:3 wins no losses so I'm not complaining because we lost. Gripes are with umpires turning up asking the coaches to teach them the rules (U8s). Thats not on im my mind especially since we said one of the conditions of moving over was an increased standard of umpiring. So far we are not getting it.


At least your umpire turned up :shock:


must have been the U/8's turn to miss out on umpires this week, none for Broadview's 2 teams


we played Broadies U8's on the weekend. Which game - we were at the Southern end of the ground at 9.30. That might explain why he wasn't prepared to umpire.

I heard a story yesterday that the SANFL umpires coach had said they were 40 umpires short (don't know how long ago this was).

For $40 bucks an U8's game, I should do it myself!


That would have been the other U/8 side, my lad's team was at Mawson Lakes

Re: Amateur League Looking at taking over Junior Football

PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 3:41 pm
by Lightning McQueen
Executive Member wrote:
That would have been the other U/8 side, my lad's team was at Mawson Lakes

Should've rang, I could've walked there and made a guest appearance

Re: Amateur League Looking at taking over Junior Football

PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 3:52 pm
by Executive Member
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Executive Member wrote:
That would have been the other U/8 side, my lad's team was at Mawson Lakes

Should've rang, I could've walked there and made a guest appearance


I said Mawson Lakes not Radiator Springs

Re: Amateur League Looking at taking over Junior Football

PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 4:02 pm
by Lightning McQueen
Executive Member wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Executive Member wrote:
That would have been the other U/8 side, my lad's team was at Mawson Lakes

Should've rang, I could've walked there and made a guest appearance


I said Mawson Lakes not Radiator Springs

LOL, that's where I live, I work at RS.

Re: Amateur League Looking at taking over Junior Football

PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 5:12 pm
by Dutchy
gadj1976 wrote:
For $40 bucks an U8's game, I should do it myself!


$40? my lad does u8's in the SFL and gets $22, time to move down the hill!

Re: Amateur League Looking at taking over Junior Football

PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 1:05 pm
by Lightning McQueen
Dutchy wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:
For $40 bucks an U8's game, I should do it myself!


$40? my lad does u8's in the SFL and gets $22, time to move down the hill!


Do it, the kids can really clean up.

Re: Amateur League Looking at taking over Junior Football

PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 1:49 pm
by Dutchy
Great $ for a 13 yo, if he does 8's and 10's over 2 hours on a Sunday morning he makes around $55.

Re: Amateur League Looking at taking over Junior Football

PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 1:52 pm
by Lightning McQueen
Dutchy wrote:Great $ for a 13 yo, if he does 8's and 10's over 2 hours on a Sunday morning he makes around $55.

Close to $100 in the metro league...............and they're screaming for umpires.

Re: Amateur League Looking at taking over Junior Football

PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 3:39 pm
by Dutchy
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Great $ for a 13 yo, if he does 8's and 10's over 2 hours on a Sunday morning he makes around $55.

Close to $100 in the metro league...............and they're screaming for umpires.


Hmmm might need to look at this, he plays footy at 12.20pm on Sundays so that would be the only restriction.

Re: Amateur League Looking at taking over Junior Football

PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 3:50 pm
by Lightning McQueen
Dutchy wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Great $ for a 13 yo, if he does 8's and 10's over 2 hours on a Sunday morning he makes around $55.

Close to $100 in the metro league...............and they're screaming for umpires.


Hmmm might need to look at this, he plays footy at 12.20pm on Sundays so that would be the only restriction.

They'll work around that and give him games close by, there's always a shortage of umpires wanting to do Friday night games too.

There's a lad in the APFL that gets over $500 tax free money each weekend from umpiring, I used to cash in a bit with it too across 3 different competitions sometimes 6 or 7 games for the weekend.

Re: Amateur League Looking at taking over Junior Football

PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 9:35 pm
by Dutchy
Friday nights would be perfect...Ill follow it up...cheers

Re: Amateur League Looking at taking over Junior Football

PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2017 10:05 am
by thegrowler
gadj1976 wrote:3 wins no losses so I'm not complaining because we lost. Gripes are with umpires turning up asking the coaches to teach them the rules (U8s). Thats not on im my mind especially since we said one of the conditions of moving over was an increased standard of umpiring. So far we are not getting it.


Are you serious, if you are I am so embarrassed for you
- your giving us your win loss ratio in under 8s
- your last post labelled the umpires deplorable, in under 8s. Under 8s...are you serious
- you have issue with the young umpires seeking out some advice prior to the game from those that should be mentoring

I hope you win the Premiership and they appoint Ray Chamberlin to your games :roll:

Seriously buddy, in week two of the season you are going to probably have a teenage kid doing his second game ever and under 8s is the perfect environment for everyone involved to develop. Take a deep breath and try and have a little understanding and analytical ability and everyone will benefit in your junior football environment.

Re: Amateur League Looking at taking over Junior Football

PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2017 10:21 am
by The Bedge
gadj1976 wrote:Gripes are with umpires turning up asking the coaches to teach them the rules (U8s).

To be fair, the rules vary quite a bit between U8s and U9s (Zones, tackling, pressure, standing the mark, bounces etc).

Wouldn't you rather an umpire clarify rules so everyone is happy, rather than umpire how he thinks and potentially cause a shit storm?