SAAFL Division 6 & D6R (2012)

[The Informer]

I agree with Phantom on this. To be told that you have to be there by 11.15 for a meeting or they will find someone who can and play them is a bit rich.
Some people do have life's away from Football and may like to spend time with there family in the morning before heading of for a day of football.
I dont mind that clubs bring in rules but a rule with 4 weeks to go?

Report time has been 11:15 all season, but some people choose to be very late every week. I do understand some people LIKE to spend time with family before football but when 4 or 5 latecomers are upsetting preparation for the rest of the team, a stand had to be taken.

Only once in the past 8 or 9 weeks have we not been smashed in the first quarter, kinda coincides with only having 2/3 of a team there & ready to go on to the park 20 minutes before the game. The lateness has been getting worse over the second 1/2 of the season.

Whilst we now have no chance of making finals, it does not mean we throw in the towel and go through the motions. We will continue to try and improve both the way we play footy and the manner in which we go about it, including our preparation.

Have u spoken to these guys and told them this or just bring it in now? PG is doing a lot of work for u blokes and he suffers because of this pop gun rule? Maybe have better control over the players from early on and this doesn't happen.

I feel for PG and the other few who it may affect, however, getting a team READY for the first siren is our priority.

[Phantom Gossiper]

X-Runna. As much as I would rather not bring further unneeded attention on the club and especially bring issues to a public forum, your post leaves me both frustrated and amused.

I think you need to realise this is B grade football and people have other commitments. It's not about what players "like", its about what players need to do - I.e. working, family etc.

Although I do "like" spending time with my daughter, working until 1am Friday nights and then waking up at 7 to get ready for footy before having swimming lessons with her until nearly 11 is an OBLIGATION & RESPONSIBILITY.

Before you blame pre match attendance and preparation to your poor results, perhaps you should look at other factors - poor coaching, poor team selection, poor positioning, poor fitness, poor skill level, unsettled side each week. These are all factors

It's been you the coach who has talked up the squad and finals chances each and every week, it is you the coach who has turned away some very good footballers from playing.

Putting a hard nose approach on a div 6 B grade side 3 weeks out from concluding a disappointing season is laughable, you say you won't give up fighting, but if you doesn't understand and appreciate how to people manage individuals then you may find yourself without a side to fight with.

[Phantom Gossiper]

No doubt a solid win over a weak Houghton B grade will have you convinced your approach has reaped the rewards

[Easy Miss]

X-Runna. As much as I would rather not bring further unneeded attention on the club and especially bring issues to a public forum, your post leaves me both frustrated and amused.

I think you need to realise this is B grade football and people have other commitments. It's not about what players "like", its about what players need to do - I.e. working, family etc.

Although I do "like" spending time with my daughter, working until 1am Friday nights and then waking up at 7 to get ready for footy before having swimming lessons with her until nearly 11 is an OBLIGATION & RESPONSIBILITY.

Before you blame pre match attendance and preparation to your poor results, perhaps you should look at other factors - poor coaching, poor team selection, poor positioning, poor fitness, poor skill level, unsettled side each week. These are all factors

It's been you the coach who has talked up the squad and finals chances each and every week, it is you the coach who has turned away some very good footballers from playing.

Putting a hard nose approach on a div 6 B grade side 3 weeks out from concluding a disappointing season is laughable, you say you won't give up fighting, but if you doesn't understand and appreciate how to people manage individuals then you may find yourself without a side to fight with.

[FRED]

Good to see everything's sweet at Bulldog park.
Maybe some of your committee should have done a bit of research before appointing certain people and recriuting certain players?

[Q.]

No doubt a solid win over a weak Houghton B grade will have you convinced your approach has reaped the rewards

Easy bloke, we may have had a couple of fifty year olds playing for us last week, but the ball hasn't been bounced yet!

[bloozebrother]

I agree with Phantom on this. To be told that you have to be there by 11.15 for a meeting or they will find someone who can and play them is a bit rich.
Some people do have life's away from Football and may like to spend time with there family in the morning before heading of for a day of football.
I dont mind that clubs bring in rules but a rule with 4 weeks to go?

Report time has been 11:15 all season, but some people choose to be very late every week. I do understand some people LIKE to spend time with family before football but when 4 or 5 latecomers are upsetting preparation for the rest of the team, a stand had to be taken.

Only once in the past 8 or 9 weeks have we not been smashed in the first quarter, kinda coincides with only having 2/3 of a team there & ready to go on to the park 20 minutes before the game. The lateness has been getting worse over the second 1/2 of the season.

Whilst we now have no chance of making finals, it does not mean we throw in the towel and go through the motions. We will continue to try and improve both the way we play footy and the manner in which we go about it, including our preparation.

I feel for PG and the other few who it may affect, however, getting a team READY for the first siren is our priority.

I agree with you X - if you commit to footy then commit to team rules. If you cant then give the game away. Im sick of hearing its only division 6 - hours and hours go into keeping these clubs alive and its not that easy getting a kick in any game let alone Div 6 - there is so many committee members and coaching staff that work and put in the hours plus have a family. If you want to play footy you work around it. No excuses - if you put your hand up - do what the coach wants - otherwise move on.

[The Informer]

I agree with Phantom on this. To be told that you have to be there by 11.15 for a meeting or they will find someone who can and play them is a bit rich.
Some people do have life's away from Football and may like to spend time with there family in the morning before heading of for a day of football.
I dont mind that clubs bring in rules but a rule with 4 weeks to go?

Report time has been 11:15 all season, but some people choose to be very late every week. I do understand some people LIKE to spend time with family before football but when 4 or 5 latecomers are upsetting preparation for the rest of the team, a stand had to be taken.

Only once in the past 8 or 9 weeks have we not been smashed in the first quarter, kinda coincides with only having 2/3 of a team there & ready to go on to the park 20 minutes before the game. The lateness has been getting worse over the second 1/2 of the season.

Whilst we now have no chance of making finals, it does not mean we throw in the towel and go through the motions. We will continue to try and improve both the way we play footy and the manner in which we go about it, including our preparation.

I feel for PG and the other few who it may affect, however, getting a team READY for the first siren is our priority.

Mate im sure some Div 1R wouldn't even be there by 11.15. Like PG has said, maybe as a coach u could do a bit more to inspire and have the blokes ready to play by the first bounce.
Surely sitting around for over a hour is not the best approach but i guess you know better going by your results.
Maybe approach the 3 to 4 guys u say and try to get them to attend a bit earlier?
Im sure if you had the up most respect from your players they would make sure they are there by the time u say or talk to u about what time they can get there.
To me u are just trying to make excuses for a disappointing season where you have promised so much. Pretty easy way out to blame the players and start enforcing a rule with 3 weeks to go. Should of been firm weeks ago not know, but hey im sure you know best.

[Dols]

I agree with Phantom on this. To be told that you have to be there by 11.15 for a meeting or they will find someone who can and play them is a bit rich.
Some people do have life's away from Football and may like to spend time with there family in the morning before heading of for a day of football.
I dont mind that clubs bring in rules but a rule with 4 weeks to go?

Report time has been 11:15 all season, but some people choose to be very late every week. I do understand some people LIKE to spend time with family before football but when 4 or 5 latecomers are upsetting preparation for the rest of the team, a stand had to be taken.

Only once in the past 8 or 9 weeks have we not been smashed in the first quarter, kinda coincides with only having 2/3 of a team there & ready to go on to the park 20 minutes before the game. The lateness has been getting worse over the second 1/2 of the season.

Whilst we now have no chance of making finals, it does not mean we throw in the towel and go through the motions. We will continue to try and improve both the way we play footy and the manner in which we go about it, including our preparation.

I feel for PG and the other few who it may affect, however, getting a team READY for the first siren is our priority.

I agree with you X - if you commit to footy then commit to team rules. If you cant then give the game away. Im sick of hearing its only division 6 - hours and hours go into keeping these clubs alive and its not that easy getting a kick in any game let alone Div 6 - there is so many committee members and coaching staff that work and put in the hours plus have a family. If you want to play footy you work around it. No excuses - if you put your hand up - do what the coach wants - otherwise move on.

good luck in the family court mate. I am sure when your wife divorces u the court will agree with u that u have your priorities right.

[The Informer]

I agree with Phantom on this. To be told that you have to be there by 11.15 for a meeting or they will find someone who can and play them is a bit rich.
Some people do have life's away from Football and may like to spend time with there family in the morning before heading of for a day of football.
I dont mind that clubs bring in rules but a rule with 4 weeks to go?

Report time has been 11:15 all season, but some people choose to be very late every week. I do understand some people LIKE to spend time with family before football but when 4 or 5 latecomers are upsetting preparation for the rest of the team, a stand had to be taken.

Only once in the past 8 or 9 weeks have we not been smashed in the first quarter, kinda coincides with only having 2/3 of a team there & ready to go on to the park 20 minutes before the game. The lateness has been getting worse over the second 1/2 of the season.

Whilst we now have no chance of making finals, it does not mean we throw in the towel and go through the motions. We will continue to try and improve both the way we play footy and the manner in which we go about it, including our preparation.

I feel for PG and the other few who it may affect, however, getting a team READY for the first siren is our priority.

I agree with you X - if you commit to footy then commit to team rules. If you cant then give the game away. Im sick of hearing its only division 6 - hours and hours go into keeping these clubs alive and its not that easy getting a kick in any game let alone Div 6 - there is so many committee members and coaching staff that work and put in the hours plus have a family. If you want to play footy you work around it. No excuses - if you put your hand up - do what the coach wants - otherwise move on.

LOL this is a pisser, PG has done nothing but stick up for Ingle Farm on this forum when everyone was throwing crap at it. To not even be able to talk to a coach and explain your position is laughable.
Bloozebrother it isnt the AFL mate, some people have lives and might not be able to get there that early. Tell them to move on like u say and good luck in a few weeks when u haven't got a team. laughable.

[playon]

I agree with Phantom on this. To be told that you have to be there by 11.15 for a meeting or they will find someone who can and play them is a bit rich.
Some people do have life's away from Football and may like to spend time with there family in the morning before heading of for a day of football.
I dont mind that clubs bring in rules but a rule with 4 weeks to go?

Report time has been 11:15 all season, but some people choose to be very late every week. I do understand some people LIKE to spend time with family before football but when 4 or 5 latecomers are upsetting preparation for the rest of the team, a stand had to be taken.

Only once in the past 8 or 9 weeks have we not been smashed in the first quarter, kinda coincides with only having 2/3 of a team there & ready to go on to the park 20 minutes before the game. The lateness has been getting worse over the second 1/2 of the season.

Whilst we now have no chance of making finals, it does not mean we throw in the towel and go through the motions. We will continue to try and improve both the way we play footy and the manner in which we go about it, including our preparation.

I feel for PG and the other few who it may affect, however, getting a team READY for the first siren is our priority.

I agree with you X - if you commit to footy then commit to team rules. If you cant then give the game away. Im sick of hearing its only division 6 - hours and hours go into keeping these clubs alive and its not that easy getting a kick in any game let alone Div 6 - there is so many committee members and coaching staff that work and put in the hours plus have a family. If you want to play footy you work around it. No excuses - if you put your hand up - do what the coach wants - otherwise move on.

Can see why players such as PG didnt play or stick around in much higher grades such as Div 1!

[The Informer]

I agree with Phantom on this. To be told that you have to be there by 11.15 for a meeting or they will find someone who can and play them is a bit rich.
Some people do have life's away from Football and may like to spend time with there family in the morning before heading of for a day of football.
I dont mind that clubs bring in rules but a rule with 4 weeks to go?

Report time has been 11:15 all season, but some people choose to be very late every week. I do understand some people LIKE to spend time with family before football but when 4 or 5 latecomers are upsetting preparation for the rest of the team, a stand had to be taken.

Only once in the past 8 or 9 weeks have we not been smashed in the first quarter, kinda coincides with only having 2/3 of a team there & ready to go on to the park 20 minutes before the game. The lateness has been getting worse over the second 1/2 of the season.

Whilst we now have no chance of making finals, it does not mean we throw in the towel and go through the motions. We will continue to try and improve both the way we play footy and the manner in which we go about it, including our preparation.

I feel for PG and the other few who it may affect, however, getting a team READY for the first siren is our priority.

I agree with you X - if you commit to footy then commit to team rules. If you cant then give the game away. Im sick of hearing its only division 6 - hours and hours go into keeping these clubs alive and its not that easy getting a kick in any game let alone Div 6 - there is so many committee members and coaching staff that work and put in the hours plus have a family. If you want to play footy you work around it. No excuses - if you put your hand up - do what the coach wants - otherwise move on.

Can see why players such as PG didnt play or stick around in much higher grades such as Div 1!

Y because he couldnt get to the game a hour before the start?

[The Informer]

I agree with Phantom on this. To be told that you have to be there by 11.15 for a meeting or they will find someone who can and play them is a bit rich.
Some people do have life's away from Football and may like to spend time with there family in the morning before heading of for a day of football.
I dont mind that clubs bring in rules but a rule with 4 weeks to go?

Report time has been 11:15 all season, but some people choose to be very late every week. I do understand some people LIKE to spend time with family before football but when 4 or 5 latecomers are upsetting preparation for the rest of the team, a stand had to be taken.

Only once in the past 8 or 9 weeks have we not been smashed in the first quarter, kinda coincides with only having 2/3 of a team there & ready to go on to the park 20 minutes before the game. The lateness has been getting worse over the second 1/2 of the season.

Whilst we now have no chance of making finals, it does not mean we throw in the towel and go through the motions. We will continue to try and improve both the way we play footy and the manner in which we go about it, including our preparation.

I feel for PG and the other few who it may affect, however, getting a team READY for the first siren is our priority.

Maybe u got smashed because u are not good enough?

[playon]

I agree with Phantom on this. To be told that you have to be there by 11.15 for a meeting or they will find someone who can and play them is a bit rich.
Some people do have life's away from Football and may like to spend time with there family in the morning before heading of for a day of football.
I dont mind that clubs bring in rules but a rule with 4 weeks to go?

Report time has been 11:15 all season, but some people choose to be very late every week. I do understand some people LIKE to spend time with family before football but when 4 or 5 latecomers are upsetting preparation for the rest of the team, a stand had to be taken.

Only once in the past 8 or 9 weeks have we not been smashed in the first quarter, kinda coincides with only having 2/3 of a team there & ready to go on to the park 20 minutes before the game. The lateness has been getting worse over the second 1/2 of the season.

Whilst we now have no chance of making finals, it does not mean we throw in the towel and go through the motions. We will continue to try and improve both the way we play footy and the manner in which we go about it, including our preparation.

I feel for PG and the other few who it may affect, however, getting a team READY for the first siren is our priority.

Mate im sure some Div 1R wouldn't even be there by 11.15. Like PG has said, maybe as a coach u could do a bit more to inspire and have the blokes ready to play by the first bounce.
Surely sitting around for over a hour is not the best approach but i guess you know better going by your results.
Maybe approach the 3 to 4 guys u say and try to get them to attend a bit earlier?
Im sure if you had the up most respect from your players they would make sure they are there by the time u say or talk to u about what time they can get there.
To me u are just trying to make excuses for a disappointing season where you have promised so much. Pretty easy way out to blame the players and start enforcing a rule with 3 weeks to go. Should of been firm weeks ago not know, but hey im sure you know best.

Majority if not all of the Div1R teams report by 11:15am.......this should be the report time for all b grade, as there is players that want strapping, rub downs, then warm ups and coach goes through his team and game plan, all this in 50 mins? cmon think about it

[bloozebrother]

I agree with Phantom on this. To be told that you have to be there by 11.15 for a meeting or they will find someone who can and play them is a bit rich.
Some people do have life's away from Football and may like to spend time with there family in the morning before heading of for a day of football.
I dont mind that clubs bring in rules but a rule with 4 weeks to go?

Report time has been 11:15 all season, but some people choose to be very late every week. I do understand some people LIKE to spend time with family before football but when 4 or 5 latecomers are upsetting preparation for the rest of the team, a stand had to be taken.

Only once in the past 8 or 9 weeks have we not been smashed in the first quarter, kinda coincides with only having 2/3 of a team there & ready to go on to the park 20 minutes before the game. The lateness has been getting worse over the second 1/2 of the season.

Whilst we now have no chance of making finals, it does not mean we throw in the towel and go through the motions. We will continue to try and improve both the way we play footy and the manner in which we go about it, including our preparation.

I feel for PG and the other few who it may affect, however, getting a team READY for the first siren is our priority.

I agree with you X - if you commit to footy then commit to team rules. If you cant then give the game away. Im sick of hearing its only division 6 - hours and hours go into keeping these clubs alive and its not that easy getting a kick in any game let alone Div 6 - there is so many committee members and coaching staff that work and put in the hours plus have a family. If you want to play footy you work around it. No excuses - if you put your hand up - do what the coach wants - otherwise move on.

good luck in the family court mate. I am sure when your wife divorces u the court will agree with u that u have your priorities right.

No problems here mate - 3 kids who play sport and still find time to coach with the support of an encouraging wife. As i said - you work around it or find a different lifestyle!

[Q.]

Majority if not all of the Div1R teams report by 11:15am.......this should be the report time for all b grade, as there is players that want strapping, rub downs, then warm ups and coach goes through his team and game plan, all this in 50 mins? cmon think about it

Agree, but helluva difference between D1R and D6R.

Sometimes you've gotta afford a small amount of flexibility.

[playon]

Report time has been 11:15 all season, but some people choose to be very late every week. I do understand some people LIKE to spend time with family before football but when 4 or 5 latecomers are upsetting preparation for the rest of the team, a stand had to be taken.

Only once in the past 8 or 9 weeks have we not been smashed in the first quarter, kinda coincides with only having 2/3 of a team there & ready to go on to the park 20 minutes before the game. The lateness has been getting worse over the second 1/2 of the season.

Whilst we now have no chance of making finals, it does not mean we throw in the towel and go through the motions. We will continue to try and improve both the way we play footy and the manner in which we go about it, including our preparation.

I feel for PG and the other few who it may affect, however, getting a team READY for the first siren is our priority.[/quote]
I agree with you X - if you commit to footy then commit to team rules. If you cant then give the game away. Im sick of hearing its only division 6 - hours and hours go into keeping these clubs alive and its not that easy getting a kick in any game let alone Div 6 - there is so many committee members and coaching staff that work and put in the hours plus have a family. If you want to play footy you work around it. No excuses - if you put your hand up - do what the coach wants - otherwise move on.[/quote]

Can see why players such as PG didnt play or stick around in much higher grades such as Div 1![/quote]

Y because he couldnt get to the game a hour before the start?[/quote]

team rules, club rules, commitment, shall i go on? if a player cant commit to footy or get their on time fair enough, dont play or play c grade! again maybe for a Div 5R side of lower probably bit flexible?

[The Informer]

Report time has been 11:15 all season, but some people choose to be very late every week. I do understand some people LIKE to spend time with family before football but when 4 or 5 latecomers are upsetting preparation for the rest of the team, a stand had to be taken.

Only once in the past 8 or 9 weeks have we not been smashed in the first quarter, kinda coincides with only having 2/3 of a team there & ready to go on to the park 20 minutes before the game. The lateness has been getting worse over the second 1/2 of the season.

Whilst we now have no chance of making finals, it does not mean we throw in the towel and go through the motions. We will continue to try and improve both the way we play footy and the manner in which we go about it, including our preparation.

I feel for PG and the other few who it may affect, however, getting a team READY for the first siren is our priority.

I agree with you X - if you commit to footy then commit to team rules. If you cant then give the game away. Im sick of hearing its only division 6 - hours and hours go into keeping these clubs alive and its not that easy getting a kick in any game let alone Div 6 - there is so many committee members and coaching staff that work and put in the hours plus have a family. If you want to play footy you work around it. No excuses - if you put your hand up - do what the coach wants - otherwise move on.[/quote]

Can see why players such as PG didnt play or stick around in much higher grades such as Div 1![/quote]

Y because he couldnt get to the game a hour before the start?[/quote]

team rules, club rules, commitment, shall i go on? if a player cant commit to footy or get their on time fair enough, dont play or play c grade! again maybe for a Div 5R side of lower probably bit flexible?[/quote]

Mate if a bloke can get there 10 or so minutes after your time surely he can play. Is Div6R below Div5R or have i drunk to much?

[bloozebrother]

I agree with Phantom on this. To be told that you have to be there by 11.15 for a meeting or they will find someone who can and play them is a bit rich.
Some people do have life's away from Football and may like to spend time with there family in the morning before heading of for a day of football.
I dont mind that clubs bring in rules but a rule with 4 weeks to go?

Report time has been 11:15 all season, but some people choose to be very late every week. I do understand some people LIKE to spend time with family before football but when 4 or 5 latecomers are upsetting preparation for the rest of the team, a stand had to be taken.

Only once in the past 8 or 9 weeks have we not been smashed in the first quarter, kinda coincides with only having 2/3 of a team there & ready to go on to the park 20 minutes before the game. The lateness has been getting worse over the second 1/2 of the season.

Whilst we now have no chance of making finals, it does not mean we throw in the towel and go through the motions. We will continue to try and improve both the way we play footy and the manner in which we go about it, including our preparation.

I feel for PG and the other few who it may affect, however, getting a team READY for the first siren is our priority.

I agree with you X - if you commit to footy then commit to team rules. If you cant then give the game away. Im sick of hearing its only division 6 - hours and hours go into keeping these clubs alive and its not that easy getting a kick in any game let alone Div 6 - there is so many committee members and coaching staff that work and put in the hours plus have a family. If you want to play footy you work around it. No excuses - if you put your hand up - do what the coach wants - otherwise move on.

LOL this is a pisser, PG has done nothing but stick up for Ingle Farm on this forum when everyone was throwing crap at it. To not even be able to talk to a coach and explain your position is laughable.
Bloozebrother it isnt the AFL mate, some people have lives and might not be able to get there that early. Tell them to move on like u say and good luck in a few weeks when u haven't got a team. laughable.

Not that hard informer - 2, 2 hour trainings and get to a game on time - i think even my kids have those rules - teaches you good life skills! Punctuality and committment! Interested to know what club your involved in - might tell us more about you! haha

[playon]

Report time has been 11:15 all season, but some people choose to be very late every week. I do understand some people LIKE to spend time with family before football but when 4 or 5 latecomers are upsetting preparation for the rest of the team, a stand had to be taken.

Only once in the past 8 or 9 weeks have we not been smashed in the first quarter, kinda coincides with only having 2/3 of a team there & ready to go on to the park 20 minutes before the game. The lateness has been getting worse over the second 1/2 of the season.

Whilst we now have no chance of making finals, it does not mean we throw in the towel and go through the motions. We will continue to try and improve both the way we play footy and the manner in which we go about it, including our preparation.

I feel for PG and the other few who it may affect, however, getting a team READY for the first siren is our priority.

I agree with you X - if you commit to footy then commit to team rules. If you cant then give the game away. Im sick of hearing its only division 6 - hours and hours go into keeping these clubs alive and its not that easy getting a kick in any game let alone Div 6 - there is so many committee members and coaching staff that work and put in the hours plus have a family. If you want to play footy you work around it. No excuses - if you put your hand up - do what the coach wants - otherwise move on.

Can see why players such as PG didnt play or stick around in much higher grades such as Div 1![/quote]

Y because he couldnt get to the game a hour before the start?[/quote]

team rules, club rules, commitment, shall i go on? if a player cant commit to footy or get their on time fair enough, dont play or play c grade! again maybe for a Div 5R side of lower probably bit flexible?[/quote]

Mate if a bloke can get there 10 or so minutes after your time surely he can play. Is Div6R below Div5R or have i drunk to much?[/quote]

like i said i reckon from Div 5R and lower (so yes that means lower than Div5R.... such as Div 6, Div 7, etc) there should be some flexibility, but higher grades i think not, personally if i was coach of any team, I would want all my players report at that time, if you cant then bad luck! you let them do one thing, then it leads to another (late to training or not training), etc.... should not be any special treatment for anyone that cant commit or report as a team!