SAAFL Div 4 2008

[Iron Fist]

Actually, I tackle to get 'em holding the ball or incorrect disposal, hence the pinning of one or two arms. If you don't get the free at least it can result in a turnover.

so u have never tackled the bloke with the ball got him holding the ball and taken him to the ground????
with not a thought of giving him one that will make him rememebr the tackle??

[Q.]

Pin the arms and get them to the ground so they can't get a kick away, but the Basset face-plant tackle is a calculated move.

[zedman]

agree..

[Punk Rooster]

maybe a club (hint hint) could raise the issue that the ground was unsafe, & contributed to the player's injury?
Clubs should not sign off on the ground if it's unsafe

[Iron Fist]

maybe a club (hint hint) could raise the issue that the ground was unsafe, & contributed to the player's injury?
Clubs should not sign off on the ground if it's unsafe

yeah that is one way
but the home club should make sure it is fit to play!
we dont want to travel all that way and not play!

the player that was injured plays from mitcham from what was said earlier!

[Felch]

maybe a club (hint hint) could raise the issue that the ground was unsafe, & contributed to the player's injury?
Clubs should not sign off on the ground if it's unsafe

The ground is a disgrace. Mitcham's match official seemed a bit vague on the whole issue when we raised our concerns. We signed off, but i had serious reservations. All my blokes looked at the ground well before the game and didnt seem to concerned with playing on it, so i was happy.

But it is ridiculous, IMO. We have a turf pitch, and ours is fine. Im not sure who maintains (or doesnt maintain !) their ground - im guessing its the council - but whoever it responsible, doesnt know what they are doing.

Im pretty sure your As & Bs play out there soon Punky. It will be interesting to see what you guys think.

This issue has already been discussed, by the way, by Bucketts and myself on another thread.

[zedman]

must say felch is correct..the centre pitch there is horrific..especially in the late months of footy season when finals get played..and when its wet its the stickiest black sh1t you will ever come across..dont forget its a district cricket oval to..i have played many games there and it wasnt known for its bounce at all so maybe the soil isnt mixed correctly..or maybe they throw some premix concrete in the clay LOL

[Iron Fist]

Pin the arms and get them to the ground so they can't get a kick away, but the Basset face-plant tackle is a calculated move.

face plant and a tackle is different
if you have a guy that is bigger then u
u pin his arms
u need to twist to bring him to ground
it is quite common for the blokes head to hit the ground, this was the case im guessing and because of the hard cricket pitch.

[Felch]

must say felch is correct..the centre pitch there is horrific..especially in the late months of footy season when finals get played..and when its wet its the stickiest black sh1t you will ever come across..dont forget its a district cricket oval to..i have played many games there and it wasnt known for its bounce at all so maybe the soil isnt mixed correctly..or maybe they throw some premix concrete in the clay LOL

I can imagine what its like when its wet, lovely !!!

Still, much prefer it to be sticky than rock hard. Our ground is a District cricket oval too, no excuse i reckon.

[piccachu]

face plant and a tackle is different
if you have a guy that is bigger then u
u pin his arms
u need to twist to bring him to ground
it is quite common for the blokes head to hit the ground, this was the case im guessing and because of the hard cricket pitch.

well said fisty if i was to tackle someone bigger than me you put your whole body weight in to bringing them to the ground and if the hit there head on the deck so be it not that i lay many tackles.

and if i am tackled and hit me head onthe turf i think sh!t i just got crunched, not you dirty b#stard

[The Big Shrek]

and in you saying they were talking about taking it to the tribuneral and it was thrown out, its with in the rules you fool.

I know it's within the rules, or within the rules as we expect them to be interpreted but that is not what I was saying. If the AFL is serious about protcting players' heads they should ban pinning players' arms and slamming them into the ground.

To try and injure an opponent's head when he is helpless is seriously unsportsmanlike and if I did it I would expect serious remonstrations from the opposing side.

[Iron Fist]

and in you saying they were talking about taking it to the tribuneral and it was thrown out, its with in the rules you fool.

I know it's within the rules, or within the rules as we expect them to be interpreted but that is not what I was saying. If the AFL is serious about protcting players' heads they should ban pinning players' arms and slamming them into the ground.

To try and injure an opponent's head when he is helpless is seriously unsportsmanlike and if I did it I would expect serious remonstrations from the opposing side.

i think you are taking out of context what the majority of players think when they pin a bloke and tackle him!!
sure u want hurt
but knocking a bloke out cold from a tackle can get yourself in some strife
not only with the umpires but the other team retaliating!
all u want ithe bloke to feel it and think twice before he goes at a 50/50 against you!!!

[Super Coach]

so if someone gets hurt that means some1 has done it intentionaly?
no one said the haven player had in mind to ram his head into the ground, he tackled him and the motion of the tackle drove his head down!
people get hurt in football it happens!

and also look at me im from a division 3 club yeah thats right division 3 yippee wahoo div3 div3
we are so much better tyhan div4

beat it back to your forum!

[Iron Fist]

so if someone gets hurt that means some1 has done it intentionaly?
no one said the haven player had in mind to ram his head into the ground, he tackled him and the motion of the tackle drove his head down!
people get hurt in football it happens!

and also look at me im from a division 3 club yeah thats right division 3 yippee wahoo div3 div3
we are so much better tyhan div4

beat it back to your forum!

that is exactly right!!
the reason this discussioon broke out was because mitchams cricket pitch is unsafe!

[The Big Shrek]

What Quichey, Zedman and I have said is that when you have a player's arms pinned then you know if you're going to tackle them in a manner where their head will be slung into the ground. Why not avoid doing it?

[Super Coach]

so if someone gets hurt that means some1 has done it intentionaly?
no one said the haven player had in mind to ram his head into the ground, he tackled him and the motion of the tackle drove his head down!
people get hurt in football it happens!

and also look at me im from a division 3 club yeah thats right division 3 yippee wahoo div3 div3
we are so much better tyhan div4

beat it back to your forum!

that is exactly right!!
the reason this discussioon broke out was because mitchams cricket pitch is unsafe!

what?
i was right

[Super Coach]

What Quichey, Zedman and I have said is that when you have a player's arms pinned then you know if you're going to tackle them in a manner where their head will be slung into the ground. Why not avoid doing it?

so big shrek you have never layed a slightly clumsy tackle???
seriously this discution is a joke!

[Super Coach]

What Quichey, Zedman and I have said is that when you have a player's arms pinned then you know if you're going to tackle them in a manner where their head will be slung into the ground. Why not avoid doing it?

if your just about to have a car crash, y not avoid doing it???

[hawkseye]

Arent we taught as juniors to drop to your knees in the act of tackling pulling your opponent down?

[Super Coach]

What Quichey, Zedman and I have said is that when you have a player's arms pinned then you know if you're going to tackle them in a manner where their head will be slung into the ground. Why not avoid doing it?

and also you keep using the term slung???
it wasnt a sling it was more of a clumsy tackle in the back that drove him forward!