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Re: New Clubs for 2017

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:41 pm
by Down the Hill
Never offended by my Emu friends because I enjoy the opportunity to return fire. We may poke fun at the stereotypes associated with our clubs but in reality we are not as different as we pretend.

Next weeks vote will be the right decision whichever way it goes because it will be what the members want moving forward. It is my understanding that North and South divisions below lets say Division 2 is not on the immediate agenda but is never off the table. The Old Collegian teams makes this concept difficult however an influx of southern suburbs teams could change the thinking.

Re: New Clubs for 2017

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:46 pm
by Minion Master
Cheese Twisties wrote:
adr107 wrote:
Down the Hill wrote:
Cheese Twisties wrote:DTH this is what surprises me most about Brighton’s keenness to move – the Brighton faithful seem to hate leaving the tanning salons and latte friendly confines of 5048! A few weeks back we played Brighton at Morphett Vale (20 minutes south of 5048) in a game that was 2 vs 3 and without exaggerating, there would have had 10-15 Bombers supporters there, and I don’t recall any of your B grade sticking around. Same with C grade over the years, where Brighton are often undefeated at home, but nearly forfeit away games! I’m a little surprised that you are keen to join a comp that will have you frequently heading north of the city…??


Top of the ladder and you've come out of hiding CT. I was at the MV game and we had a reasonable crew that gathered South of the MV coaches box. If you were prepared to get your Ugg boots dirty you may have come around and noticed or maybe you didn't want the new tattoo to get exposed to the sun until it had set properly.

It was your home game and once upon a time you had to squeeze your way through the crowd under the verandah but my last few trips to the Emu have seen a big drop off from the home crowd. And you find me any C grade (when it's your lowest team) in any comp who doesn't have some challenges with numbers particularly on some Away games - but to say we have been close to forfeiting some games is a stupid statement because our C grade over the last decade has also won the majority of its away games and only occasionally without a full 3 man bench. Coming from someone whose club is not even fielding a C grade this year and couldn't field a full U18 team last year is a bit rich.

And some people in the SFL need to get out of their own post code once in a while and have a closer look at the SAAFL and suburban Adelaide before you sprout off about it being a Northern league. In an 18 game season with 9 away games - 2 or 3 longish trips (no further than Old Noarlunga and Aldinga from Brighton - albeit slower travel time) is hardly frequently.

Take a look at the top 4 Divisions and take out Para Hills in Div 4 who ended up pulling out and will be back in Div 6 or Div 7 next year if they are able to re-group. A pretty even spread of North, East, West, South and CBD clubs in each grade. And Henley, Seaton, SMOSH, Portland etc. are not as far as you may think with Brighton Rd and TH Rd a nice direct route to those parts. S Demon was being mischievous with his "potential C grade" because the C grade comps are formed with some consideration given to geography and alignment of clubs in the A divisions.

DIVISION 1 & 1R Adelaide University Goodwood Saints Henley Payneham NU Port District Prince Alfred OC Rostrevor OC Salisbury North Tea Tree Gully Unley Mercedes Jets
DIVISION 2 & 2R Broadview Gaza Modbury Old Ignatians PHOS Camden Portland Sacred Heart OC Scotch OC SMOSH West Lakes St Peter’s OC
DIVISION 3 & 3R Athelstone Flinders Park Gepps Cross Golden Grove Kilburn Mitcham Pembroke OS Plympton Seaton Ramblers Walkerville
DIVISION 4 & 4R Colonel Light Gdns Eastern Park Edwardstown Hope Valley Kenilworth North Haven Para Hills Pooraka Salisbury Westminster OS


These strange and unfamiliar southies are adding spice. I like it.

Ha yep DTH dusted off my Safooty password for the first time since our last flag in 2009, but I didn’t mean any offence by my post... besides the tanning salons bit (which I stand by 100%). Also surely you have named your Brighton leaving SFL been campaign as “Brexit”…??

I know little of the SAAFL (or geography north of Anzac Highway) but obviously the relegation and promotion system works a treat. The only draw backs I could think of would be the travel times…

Lets just say the SFL falls over in 2-3 years (clubs jumping ship are usually the beginning of the end) there are a few clubs that could argue they are closer to the GSFL (who I think have already stated “we are full” Trump style) and Hill’s leagues – but most of us logically should be heading to the SAAFL. This would obviously add to the SAAFL travel times greatly.

Would the SAAFL even want us “strange and unfamiliar southies” in their comp? Southies would include powerhouse such as Reynella and Morphett Vale, but also clubs such as Lonsdale and Marion etc who would benefit greatly from being in the upper divisions of the SAAFL.

I saw someone previously propose a Div 1 and Div2, but then dropping back to Div 3 North and Div 3 South and so forth underneath that. Thought it was a great idea!


We don't mind you strange, inbred, two headed Southies coming in :lol: and with the expressways now in and being completed, travel time in most instances on a Saturday morning would only be 60 minutes at most and an opportunity to see what really goes on down the deep south as for me anything normally over Anzac Hwy is classed as Mexico, so if Trump gets in and a wall is built that could add additional time :lol:

Re: New Clubs for 2017

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:54 pm
by mighty hounds
Minion Master wrote:
We don't mind you strange, inbred, two headed Southies coming in :lol: and with the expressways now in and being completed, travel time in most instances on a Saturday morning would only be 60 minutes at most and an opportunity to see what really goes on down the deep south as for me anything normally over Anzac Hwy is classed as Mexico, so if Trump gets in and a wall is built that could add additional time :lol:


Isn't Morphettville Park only 2 mins from Plympton? How'd you go heading to Plympton MM? :lol:

Re: New Clubs for 2017

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:56 pm
by heater31
mighty hounds wrote:
Minion Master wrote:
We don't mind you strange, inbred, two headed Southies coming in [emoji38] and with the expressways now in and being completed, travel time in most instances on a Saturday morning would only be 60 minutes at most and an opportunity to see what really goes on down the deep south as for me anything normally over Anzac Hwy is classed as Mexico, so if Trump gets in and a wall is built that could add additional time [emoji38]


Isn't Morphettville Park only 2 mins from Plympton? How'd you go heading to Plympton MM? [emoji38]

Actually Camden oval is closer distance wise but not by much....

Re: New Clubs for 2017

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:59 pm
by Minion Master
mighty hounds wrote:
Minion Master wrote:
We don't mind you strange, inbred, two headed Southies coming in :lol: and with the expressways now in and being completed, travel time in most instances on a Saturday morning would only be 60 minutes at most and an opportunity to see what really goes on down the deep south as for me anything normally over Anzac Hwy is classed as Mexico, so if Trump gets in and a wall is built that could add additional time :lol:


Isn't Morphettville Park only 2 mins from Plympton? How'd you go heading to Plympton MM? :lol:


had the navman plugged in, doors locked & windows wound up, even looked for appropriate accommodation and packed a lunch for the trip :shock:

Re: New Clubs for 2017

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 2:00 pm
by FOURTH ESTATE
Down the Hill wrote:Never offended by my Emu friends because I enjoy the opportunity to return fire. We may poke fun at the stereotypes associated with our clubs but in reality we are not as different as we pretend.

Next weeks vote will be the right decision whichever way it goes because it will be what the members want moving forward. It is my understanding that North and South divisions below lets say Division 2 is not on the immediate agenda but is never off the table. The Old Collegian teams makes this concept difficult however an influx of southern suburbs teams could change the thinking.


DTH hope you Guys make the move and join always like going to visit new clubs and check out thier clubrooms and look at thier history

Not so sure you would want a North / South Comp, played in them for several years and the scores were similar to what you have now in the SFL,
clubs playing each other on a geograpical basis not ability. 60 goals to 4 goal game and a couple in which the opposition did not score.

Smithfield kicked over 50 goals 3 weeks in a row in one of those comps in 1995 against other A Grade sides.

Best of luck and hope top see you in a couple of years as you come up the ranks and not us coming down!!!

Re: New Clubs for 2017

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 2:23 pm
by The Hound
Lets just say the SFL falls over in 2-3 years (clubs jumping ship are usually the beginning of the end) there are a few clubs that could argue they are closer to the GSFL (who I think have already stated “we are full” Trump style) and Hill’s leagues – but most of us logically should be heading to the SAAFL. This would obviously add to the SAAFL travel times greatly.

I know this is a SAAFL forum, but the SFL should look at why the SCA feel over! better sides leaving the comp and not turning back as the standard was deteriorating (no offense to the players or comp). One such side further south than Brighton has no complaints travelling to Trinity etc. It will also add some economic benefit to the local drive thru to rehydrate 8)

However I do know of someone from Modbury FC who wont go south of Anzac Highway :oops:

Once a southie always a southie :lol:

Re: New Clubs for 2017

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 2:47 pm
by Fricky
The Hound wrote:Lets just say the SFL falls over in 2-3 years (clubs jumping ship are usually the beginning of the end) there are a few clubs that could argue they are closer to the GSFL (who I think have already stated “we are full” Trump style) and Hill’s leagues – but most of us logically should be heading to the SAAFL. This would obviously add to the SAAFL travel times greatly.

I know this is a SAAFL forum, but the SFL should look at why the SCA feel over! better sides leaving the comp and not turning back as the standard was deteriorating (no offense to the players or comp). One such side further south than Brighton has no complaints travelling to Trinity etc. It will also add some economic benefit to the local drive thru to rehydrate 8)

However I do know of someone from Modbury FC who wont go south of Anzac Highway :oops:

Once a southie always a southie :lol:


There have been clubs who suffered the "curse of Grand Junction Rd" where players pull out of games on Saturday morning when they play teams north of Grand Junction

Re: New Clubs for 2017

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 2:48 pm
by morell
Suri wrote:
The Hound wrote:Lets just say the SFL falls over in 2-3 years (clubs jumping ship are usually the beginning of the end) there are a few clubs that could argue they are closer to the GSFL (who I think have already stated “we are full” Trump style) and Hill’s leagues – but most of us logically should be heading to the SAAFL. This would obviously add to the SAAFL travel times greatly.

I know this is a SAAFL forum, but the SFL should look at why the SCA feel over! better sides leaving the comp and not turning back as the standard was deteriorating (no offense to the players or comp). One such side further south than Brighton has no complaints travelling to Trinity etc. It will also add some economic benefit to the local drive thru to rehydrate 8)

However I do know of someone from Modbury FC who wont go south of Anzac Highway :oops:

Once a southie always a southie :lol:


There have been clubs who suffered the "curse of Grand Junction Rd" where players pull out of games on Saturday morning when they play teams north of Grand Junction
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Re: New Clubs for 2017

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 3:35 pm
by finn
Down the Hill wrote:
Demon Juke wrote:
Down the Hill wrote:Guys I think you will find that our President was trying to say the amount of times our C grade play "Away" from our A & B grade whether the A & B grade play home or away, not in the context of playing away games which of course we understand is 50/50. We have noted that Plympton C grade this year will play 17 out of 18 as triple headers with all their home games as triple headers with their own A & B grade and all but one away game as a triple header but unaligned with the A & B grade due to major difference of clubs in Div 3 and C4. The SAAFL has indicated that as always they will review the C division structure to try and better align clubs between the A divisions and C divisions where possible. We understand that a couple less C & D teams in Div 7 could make this easier to achieve.


If you are so strong, C grade should be c2 or c3.


Who said anything about our C grade being in C4. Was just using a Div 3 club that is fairly close to Brighton as an example regardless of what grade their C grade is in. Was told today that many C3 teams have a D grade in C5 which is all part of the fixturing strategy so who knows where our C grade will play. If the vote to move to the SAAFL is a YES we will just be hoping, probably no different to most clubs, that our C grade plays in a div with a decent amount of clubs in close proximity or a decent amount of clubs that are also Div 3 or a combination of both.


If they're a stand alone c grade and any good Brighton's c grade will be in c1 or c2; at the moment c3 and c5 are reflective c and d grade competitions as much as possible.

Re: New Clubs for 2017

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 3:37 pm
by jo172
finn wrote:
Down the Hill wrote:
Demon Juke wrote:
Down the Hill wrote:Guys I think you will find that our President was trying to say the amount of times our C grade play "Away" from our A & B grade whether the A & B grade play home or away, not in the context of playing away games which of course we understand is 50/50. We have noted that Plympton C grade this year will play 17 out of 18 as triple headers with all their home games as triple headers with their own A & B grade and all but one away game as a triple header but unaligned with the A & B grade due to major difference of clubs in Div 3 and C4. The SAAFL has indicated that as always they will review the C division structure to try and better align clubs between the A divisions and C divisions where possible. We understand that a couple less C & D teams in Div 7 could make this easier to achieve.


If you are so strong, C grade should be c2 or c3.


Who said anything about our C grade being in C4. Was just using a Div 3 club that is fairly close to Brighton as an example regardless of what grade their C grade is in. Was told today that many C3 teams have a D grade in C5 which is all part of the fixturing strategy so who knows where our C grade will play. If the vote to move to the SAAFL is a YES we will just be hoping, probably no different to most clubs, that our C grade plays in a div with a decent amount of clubs in close proximity or a decent amount of clubs that are also Div 3 or a combination of both.


If they're a stand alone c grade and any good Brighton's c grade will be in c1 or c2; at the moment c3 and c5 are reflective c and d grade competitions as much as possible.


I suspect the grand plan involves a reincarnation of D8 next year (similar to what it was for three years) which will have most of the C/D C3 and C5 sides along with some of the C/D Sides from D7 (aside from Uni and PAOC)

Re: New Clubs for 2017

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 4:11 pm
by marbles
The clubs of the sfl could always just band together and ask the saafl to administrate them in a seperate southern 10 team division known as C9SFL

Put marion in div 7

Piss lonsdale off with the grandpa sfl committee & abra-cardabra youre new tip top C9SFL is alive

Channel 9 would certainly fund it

edit: punctuation & hyphen

Re: New Clubs for 2017

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:08 pm
by BigB
I do think that for grades which comprise mainly the kick and catch brigade, as opposed to the more serious players, a regional (North / South) based comp with perhaps a "Super GF" playoff between the winners, has merit. I'd primarily be thinking the C grade divisions, but maybe even Div 6 & 7 could be structured that way to encourage participation devoid of the tyranny of distance. (I am not denigrating C Graders as being not serious btw but a significant number of C & more so D grade players do tend to see a long drive as a bit of an issue I suspect.)
Would this work?

Re: New Clubs for 2017

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:58 pm
by Dolphin Treasure
Suri wrote:
The Hound wrote:Lets just say the SFL falls over in 2-3 years (clubs jumping ship are usually the beginning of the end) there are a few clubs that could argue they are closer to the GSFL (who I think have already stated “we are full” Trump style) and Hill’s leagues – but most of us logically should be heading to the SAAFL. This would obviously add to the SAAFL travel times greatly.

I know this is a SAAFL forum, but the SFL should look at why the SCA feel over! better sides leaving the comp and not turning back as the standard was deteriorating (no offense to the players or comp). One such side further south than Brighton has no complaints travelling to Trinity etc. It will also add some economic benefit to the local drive thru to rehydrate 8)

However I do know of someone from Modbury FC who wont go south of Anzac Highway :oops:

Once a southie always a southie :lol:


There have been clubs who suffered the "curse of Grand Junction Rd" where players pull out of games on Saturday morning when they play teams north of Grand Junction


Grand junction rd is the mullet line. I rarely travel north of the mullet line.

Re: New Clubs for 2017

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 7:04 pm
by finn
jo172 wrote:
finn wrote:
Demon Juke wrote:
Down the Hill wrote:Guys I think you will find that our President was trying to say the amount of times our C grade play "Away" from our A & B grade whether the A & B grade play home or away, not in the context of playing away games which of course we understand is 50/50. We have noted that Plympton C grade this year will play 17 out of 18 as triple headers with all their home games as triple headers with their own A & B grade and all but one away game as a triple header but unaligned with the A & B grade due to major difference of clubs in Div 3 and C4. The SAAFL has indicated that as always they will review the C division structure to try and better align clubs between the A divisions and C divisions where possible. We understand that a couple less C & D teams in Div 7 could make this easier to achieve.


Who said anything about our C grade being in C4. Was just using a Div 3 club that is fairly close to Brighton as an example regardless of what grade their C grade is in. Was told today that many C3 teams have a D grade in C5 which is all part of the fixturing strategy so who knows where our C grade will play. If the vote to move to the SAAFL is a YES we will just be hoping, probably no different to most clubs, that our C grade plays in a div with a decent amount of clubs in close proximity or a decent amount of clubs that are also Div 3 or a combination of both.


If they're a stand alone c grade and any good Brighton's c grade will be in c1 or c2; at the moment c3 and c5 are reflective c and d grade competitions as much as possible.


I suspect the grand plan involves a reincarnation of D8 next year (similar to what it was for three years) which will have most of the C/D C3 and C5 sides along with some of the C/D Sides from D7 (aside from Uni and PAOC)


The problem with this is you end up with essentially a two tiered competition; the top five or six sides end up belting the lower sides in both the c and d grade competition and in the stand alone c grade divisions (c1 and c2). This happened in these three years of div 8. The theory behind the system currently is that the better sides will end up playing each other resulting in a higher standard competition and sides not quite as good will play in a competition In which they're best suited.

Re: New Clubs for 2017

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 7:08 pm
by Yank Man
This is great interaction and makes for very interesting reading. It's a shame the SFL powers are probably not looking. So much strength down south but so much weakness as well and I'm not talking about the clubs ;) . Maybe you should all come in because you clearly have some great ideas.

#Notasledge but a positive

Re: New Clubs for 2017

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 7:51 pm
by Esteban Vihaio
Dolphin Treasure wrote:
Suri wrote:
The Hound wrote:Lets just say the SFL falls over in 2-3 years (clubs jumping ship are usually the beginning of the end) there are a few clubs that could argue they are closer to the GSFL (who I think have already stated “we are full” Trump style) and Hill’s leagues – but most of us logically should be heading to the SAAFL. This would obviously add to the SAAFL travel times greatly.

I know this is a SAAFL forum, but the SFL should look at why the SCA feel over! better sides leaving the comp and not turning back as the standard was deteriorating (no offense to the players or comp). One such side further south than Brighton has no complaints travelling to Trinity etc. It will also add some economic benefit to the local drive thru to rehydrate 8)

However I do know of someone from Modbury FC who wont go south of Anzac Highway :oops:

Once a southie always a southie :lol:


There have been clubs who suffered the "curse of Grand Junction Rd" where players pull out of games on Saturday morning when they play teams north of Grand Junction


Grand junction rd is the mullet line. I rarely travel north of the mullet line.


I prefer to think of it as the mullet proof fence

Re: New Clubs for 2017

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 8:52 pm
by tigerpie
The SFL are torn between country footy and city footy. Thats culture not ability.
Trapped between a successful GSFL and Ammos.

Where does the SFL fit?

Re: New Clubs for 2017

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 9:15 pm
by heater31
tigerpie wrote:The SFL are torn between country footy and city footy. Thats culture not ability.
Trapped between a successful GSFL and Ammos.

Where does the SFL fit?



It's an Identity crisis the league has struggled with for 15 years or more.......


Brighton and Morphettville Park looking at jumping off next year and Hackham told to work on some issues. Surely Reynella, Morphett Vale, Flagstaff Hill, Marion and Cove are pondering their future.

Re: New Clubs for 2017

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 10:29 pm
by LaughingKookaburra
mighty hounds wrote:
Minion Master wrote:
We don't mind you strange, inbred, two headed Southies coming in :lol: and with the expressways now in and being completed, travel time in most instances on a Saturday morning would only be 60 minutes at most and an opportunity to see what really goes on down the deep south as for me anything normally over Anzac Hwy is classed as Mexico, so if Trump gets in and a wall is built that could add additional time :lol:


Isn't Morphettville Park only 2 mins from Plympton? How'd you go heading to Plympton MM? :lol:


We're the inbreds?? :shock:

We have been asking for a wall at Grand Junction Road for decades ;)