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Re: Individual Pre-season Thread

Postby Bluedemon » Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:50 pm

have been doing some walking and some running around the local football oval (PNU's). By the start of next season I want to have dropped off at least 15kgs so i am ready for some zedman training.
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Re: Individual Pre-season Thread

Postby piccachu » Mon Nov 10, 2008 1:07 pm

Sorry mate, had to do it

Did your doc say why the planks are bad for your groin?


he did say why but i didnt really understan the language he was speaking it was something about putting to much stain in places that wert used to it, as were i was training at the time were getting us to do 3 sets of 4 mins and the tecnique we were all using was wrong due to straining so hard
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Re: Individual Pre-season Thread

Postby BurraBoys » Mon Nov 10, 2008 4:58 pm

Key part their piccachu is 'technique was wrong'
Core exercise are meant to be about control and form rather than lots of load. 3 x 4 min sounds way to much to me. Especially for someone with a injury in the pelvic area and potentially not lots of exposure tothe type of exercise before.

On a personal note,
Weights session today. Im 82 kg and im now repping 3x10at 80kg on bench. Havnt done my 1rm's yet but im hoping to crack the ton. Gotta get that %BF back down to 10 or under.

5km run tommorow in morning. 4min km paceing. Then leg weights + Yoga at night.
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Re: Individual Pre-season Thread

Postby LMA » Mon Nov 10, 2008 5:51 pm

FFS. You blokes do know it's Amateur League, right ?
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Re: Individual Pre-season Thread

Postby The Big Shrek » Mon Nov 10, 2008 7:30 pm

Big day for me today. Rode the bike to Uni.

5 x 30m flying sprints

6 x 5m L agility drill

4x6 modified one legged squat

2x iso hold at bottom of one legged squat

2x4 bulgarian split squats 30kg

a couple of sets of back extensions, calf raises

Rode bike home.

Then footy training, joined in last bit of weight circuit, did some yoga shit then ran 2.5km
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Re: Individual Pre-season Thread

Postby The Big Shrek » Mon Nov 10, 2008 7:32 pm

BurraBoys wrote:Key part their piccachu is 'technique was wrong'
Core exercise are meant to be about control and form rather than lots of load. 3 x 4 min sounds way to much to me. Especially for someone with a injury in the pelvic area and potentially not lots of exposure tothe type of exercise before.

On a personal note,
Weights session today. Im 82 kg and im now repping 3x10at 80kg on bench. Havnt done my 1rm's yet but im hoping to crack the ton. Gotta get that %BF back down to 10 or under.

5km run tommorow in morning. 4min km paceing. Then leg weights + Yoga at night.


You should have a one rep max of 100kg if you're doing ten at 80kg.

So you're running a 20min 5k? Not bad. Tough day doing leg weights after that.
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Re: Individual Pre-season Thread

Postby mypaddock » Mon Nov 10, 2008 7:39 pm

The Big Shrek wrote:Big day for me today. Rode the bike to Uni.

5 x 30m flying sprints

6 x 5m L agility drill

4x6 modified one legged squat

2x iso hold at bottom of one legged squat

2x4 bulgarian split squats 30kg

a couple of sets of back extensions, calf raises

Rode bike home.

Then footy training, joined in last bit of weight circuit, did some yoga s***t then ran 2.5km


Looks as though youre trying to kill five birds with one stone there shrek. What is a flying sprint??
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Re: Individual Pre-season Thread

Postby The Big Shrek » Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:01 pm

Good point mate. The idea was to work on speed first then strength which is fine to do in the same workout. As the majority of the running/biking was done after this it shouldn't negate the effects of the speed and strength workout. Getting it all in on the same day helps with recovery because you're not hitting the legs again the next day. It's either do it this way or have a speed block strength block and an endurance block of training.

Flying sprints are when you build up your pace then do 30m at full tilt.
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Re: Individual Pre-season Thread

Postby old moz » Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:38 pm

2x4 bulgarian split squats 30k

surely, this has to be straight out of HG and Roy's ""hello sailor" Greco / Roman wrestling handbook
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Re: Individual Pre-season Thread

Postby The Big Shrek » Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:54 pm

Found a picture of Adrian Wilson squatting:
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Re: Individual Pre-season Thread

Postby Q. » Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:10 am

piccachu wrote:he did say why but i didnt really understan the language he was speaking it was something about putting to much stain in places that wert used to it, as were i was training at the time were getting us to do 3 sets of 4 mins and the tecnique we were all using was wrong due to straining so hard


BurraBoys wrote:Key part their piccachu is 'technique was wrong'
Core exercise are meant to be about control and form rather than lots of load. 3 x 4 min sounds way to much to me. Especially for someone with a injury in the pelvic area and potentially not lots of exposure tothe type of exercise before.


Once for two minutes (proper technique, no wobbles) would be sufficient. This is one of the criteria I've got to reach before I can resume running. I reckon I'd be back down to a minute :oops:
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Re: Individual Pre-season Thread

Postby Dogsbreath » Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:38 am

LMA wrote:FFS. You blokes do know it's Amateur League, right ?


I'm with you LMA, quite a few bicep lifts of the good stuff, and a bit of pelvic thrusting at the missus!! :wink:
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Re: Individual Pre-season Thread

Postby The Big Shrek » Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:09 am

Quichey wrote:
piccachu wrote:he did say why but i didnt really understan the language he was speaking it was something about putting to much stain in places that wert used to it, as were i was training at the time were getting us to do 3 sets of 4 mins and the tecnique we were all using was wrong due to straining so hard


BurraBoys wrote:Key part their piccachu is 'technique was wrong'
Core exercise are meant to be about control and form rather than lots of load. 3 x 4 min sounds way to much to me. Especially for someone with a injury in the pelvic area and potentially not lots of exposure tothe type of exercise before.


Once for two minutes (proper technique, no wobbles) would be sufficient. This is one of the criteria I've got to reach before I can resume running. I reckon I'd be back down to a minute :oops:


That's the problem with footy clubs. They'll take a good exercise and butcher it. There are heaps of progessions from normal planks without doing 4min sets. Same thing happens with push ups. I have yet to see a club that doesn't butcher these. Most people can't even do twenty reps properly but the whole team pumps out 20 or thirty in a ridiculously short time basically just bouncing down a few inches. Goes a fair way to screwing up my shoulders every year.
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Re: Individual Pre-season Thread

Postby Gator-Aid » Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:14 am

The Big Shrek wrote:
Quichey wrote:
piccachu wrote:he did say why but i didnt really understan the language he was speaking it was something about putting to much stain in places that wert used to it, as were i was training at the time were getting us to do 3 sets of 4 mins and the tecnique we were all using was wrong due to straining so hard


BurraBoys wrote:Key part their piccachu is 'technique was wrong'
Core exercise are meant to be about control and form rather than lots of load. 3 x 4 min sounds way to much to me. Especially for someone with a injury in the pelvic area and potentially not lots of exposure tothe type of exercise before.


Once for two minutes (proper technique, no wobbles) would be sufficient. This is one of the criteria I've got to reach before I can resume running. I reckon I'd be back down to a minute :oops:


That's the problem with footy clubs. They'll take a good exercise and butcher it. There are heaps of progessions from normal planks without doing 4min sets. Same thing happens with push ups. I have yet to see a club that doesn't butcher these. Most people can't even do twenty reps properly but the whole team pumps out 20 or thirty in a ridiculously short time basically just bouncing down a few inches. Goes a fair way to screwing up my shoulders every year.


Holy toledo Shrekman, what with a crook back and bad shoulders, the "rest home" at Box St Enfield is probably your next best option. Maybe they will do you a package deal.
Now that is just plain dumb, don't you think?
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Re: Individual Pre-season Thread

Postby piccachu » Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:15 am

i agree totally, people like nevil thiele did destroy all good exercises, if we were to miss a target automatic 40 push up and very few in the team could do 40 legit push ups with out needing to do them every time you f*cked up so ity resulted in boys not wanting to be embaressed for not being able to do it and do sh!tty ones that are doing more bad than good, same with the planks 3x4 min sets was way to hard and even push the time frame up from there
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Re: Individual Pre-season Thread

Postby emerson » Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:49 am

Is this individual thread just so Shrek can tell us what he's doing??

I assume all these people doing 1 x km sprints etc at this time of year are thinking of going out to a league club later in the summer and not playing Div 4 - 6 of Amateur league :lol:
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Re: Individual Pre-season Thread

Postby The Big Shrek » Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:56 am

emerson wrote:Is this individual thread just so Shrek can tell us what he's doing??

I assume all these people doing 1 x km sprints etc at this time of year are thinking of going out to a league club later in the summer and not playing Div 4 - 6 of Amateur league :lol:


No emerson, a fair few people are joining in. I used the term 'individual' so people would include what they are doing by themselves. I just think it's interesting what people's goals are and what they do to acheive them. Sometimes you can get some good ideas out of what other people are doing or it might make some people question what they are doing(e.g. stupid push up people).
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Re: Individual Pre-season Thread

Postby Q. » Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:59 am

Emerson, I think you'll find it's something we enjoy. We probably just wanna get the best out of ourselves, Div 1 or Div 7.
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Re: Individual Pre-season Thread

Postby emerson » Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:08 am

Hey, don't let me dull your enthusiasm. Each to their own. Some of it just sounds a bit much this early. Mind you, I bet ya 1000/1, no Kenilworth players get on here and tell us their doing something this early in the pre season. I don't think they have been as fit as they should for years. What club are you with Shrek?
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Re: Individual Pre-season Thread

Postby The Big Shrek » Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:18 am

emerson wrote:Hey, don't let me dull your enthusiasm. Each to their own. Some of it just sounds a bit much this early. Mind you, I bet ya 1000/1, no Kenilworth players get on here and tell us their doing something this early in the pre season. I don't think they have been as fit as they should for years. What club are you with Shrek?


With Kilburn. I don't believe it is always too much too early. Lots of people exercise throughout the year regardless of sports. I don't think many people lie in sloth for the 3-4 months in between the end of the season. Starting training this early helps improve your work capacity for official pre-season training so that won't be so much of a shock to the system. Professional athletes can have a training volume which would kill most of us because they have built up their work capacity over a number of years.

I don't think anyone has gone overboard with volume either. A lot of the things mentioned on here have been strength orientated and the running sessions havent been more than 20 mins.
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