SAAFL Div 5 & 5R (2009)

[LaughingKookaburra]

How do you know you have more injuries than most clubs?? Every one has injuries my friend. I questioned Plympton a few weeks ago when we played them, I thought I saw some cracks appearing that I did not see round 3 when I was very impressed by them.Mind you both times they were too good for us and are still a good side in div 5 standards. I reckon the doggies are suspicious in the ruck at times, guess who was best on ground yesterday?? The big man Adam O'Hara. Will see come finals time but at this stage im tipping a Pultney v W.O.S gf. Pultney however at their best I beleive are a 5 goal better side than anyone else in the league.

[Bully]

With the exception of bos as i played in the magoos when we played them, here is my observations of the top 5 teams:

Pulteney- Very evenly balanced side with a good mix of talls and smalls. The only "weakness" that i feel we exploited but couldnt sustain was matching their toughness around the footy at stoppages and creating run similar to them running out of defence. They dont rely on perrie as much as people think and will be almost certain to be in div4 in 2010.

Plympton- My mid season shoe in for the flag after our round 10 meeting has been brought back to the pack. A great side full of class players, but are suspect when pressured into 1 on 1 footy. Play big grounds to perfection as they have a lot of great runners that know how to find space, but when corralled on small ovals ala hv and wos, i feel find the going tough. Very much capable of winning the flag, but with 2 prelim losses hanging over their heads and a few sides exploiting their weaknesses.....what is in store?

Rosewater- The yoyo team of division 5. At their best they can beat anyone in this division, a great mix of hard bodies, hard runners and blokes that know how to find the footy and use it beautifully. Anderson, Uerding, Birch and itzkovich were standouts against us with motlop showing glimpses of match turning class. But their worst, do these players go missingor is their game plan exploitable? it seems to me that there is a bigger gap than that of other sides with their best and worst, with games that we thought would be marked down as wins, turned out to be losses, such as smithies and against us. Certainly capable of promotion, but also capable of a straight sets exit.

wos- For us, the hardest of the top 5 sides to match up on. A fit side with a rock solid defence, midfield that works hard both forward and back and a good mix of talls and smalls up forward. midfield reads o'hara very well and ferris up forward provides a great target. Barber has a number of midfield options that he rotates either of the bench or resting forward and back, and does it very well. In my opinon if they bring their A game in the finals, will be in div 4 next year, they know after last year what it takes, and retaining their core group from last years flag, wouldnt suprise me one bit to see back to back.

As for us, well our fate rests with plympton next weekend. if it gets through to round 18 against blacks, it promises to be a belter, with previous 3 games being decided by about 2 goals in total. This finals series promises to be a cracker, just hope we are a part of it!

please dont remind us of our 2 prelim finals losses. First was against fitzroy in 2007, then greenacres the following year. Think we will sort things out before then. as im not there i cant comment on injurys etc as i dont know but plympton have always found depth in the club and im sure players in the lower grades will fill the spots with pride.
Not sure on the 'smaller grounds ' hurting us as our home ground is not that big.

[valleys07]

please dont remind us of our 2 prelim finals losses. First was against fitzroy in 2007, then greenacres the following year. Think we will sort things out before then. as im not there i cant comment on injurys etc as i dont know but plympton have always found depth in the club and im sure players in the lower grades will fill the spots with pride.
Not sure on the 'smaller grounds ' hurting us as our home ground is not that big.[/quote]

Only basing this on the 2 games we have played against you this year, on the confined space at hv we were able to match it with you easier 1 on 1 and stop your run, whereas plympton being longer and wider, you smashed us with numbers and working into space perfectly.

[One Eyed]

Going to be a crazy last couple of rounds, The top 2 are stitched up its where the rest finish. I agree dont write Plympton off just yet. Were missing some handy players and have been around the mark for a number of seasons now which may hold them in good stead. Pultney full strength will be virtually impossible to beat but a few injuries to key playes I think would be there achillies heel. I think all the other sides in there may have better depth apart from Blacks after last weekends result. As a WOS person just stoked we are more than likely going to be playing finals 1st year up.

[sprinttospace]

Going to be a crazy last couple of rounds, The top 2 are stitched up its where the rest finish. I agree dont write Plympton off just yet. Were missing some handy players and have been around the mark for a number of seasons now which may hold them in good stead. Pultney full strength will be virtually impossible to beat but a few injuries to key playes I think would be there achillies heel. I think all the other sides in there may have better depth apart from Blacks after last weekends result. As a WOS person just stoked we are more than likely going to be playing finals 1st year up.

are you referring to the b grade result against ingle farm?

[Jabber]

With the exception of bos as i played in the magoos when we played them, here is my observations of the top 5 teams:

Pulteney- Very evenly balanced side with a good mix of talls and smalls. The only "weakness" that i feel we exploited but couldnt sustain was matching their toughness around the footy at stoppages and creating run similar to them running out of defence. They dont rely on perrie as much as people think and will be almost certain to be in div4 in 2010.

Plympton- My mid season shoe in for the flag after our round 10 meeting has been brought back to the pack. A great side full of class players, but are suspect when pressured into 1 on 1 footy. Play big grounds to perfection as they have a lot of great runners that know how to find space, but when corralled on small ovals ala hv and wos, i feel find the going tough. Very much capable of winning the flag, but with 2 prelim losses hanging over their heads and a few sides exploiting their weaknesses.....what is in store?

Rosewater- The yoyo team of division 5. At their best they can beat anyone in this division, a great mix of hard bodies, hard runners and blokes that know how to find the footy and use it beautifully. Anderson, Uerding, Birch and itzkovich were standouts against us with motlop showing glimpses of match turning class. But their worst, do these players go missingor is their game plan exploitable? it seems to me that there is a bigger gap than that of other sides with their best and worst, with games that we thought would be marked down as wins, turned out to be losses, such as smithies and against us. Certainly capable of promotion, but also capable of a straight sets exit.

wos- For us, the hardest of the top 5 sides to match up on. A fit side with a rock solid defence, midfield that works hard both forward and back and a good mix of talls and smalls up forward. midfield reads o'hara very well and ferris up forward provides a great target. Barber has a number of midfield options that he rotates either of the bench or resting forward and back, and does it very well. In my opinon if they bring their A game in the finals, will be in div 4 next year, they know after last year what it takes, and retaining their core group from last years flag, wouldnt suprise me one bit to see back to back.

As for us, well our fate rests with plympton next weekend. if it gets through to round 18 against blacks, it promises to be a belter, with previous 3 games being decided by about 2 goals in total. This finals series promises to be a cracker, just hope we are a part of it!

please dont remind us of our 2 prelim finals losses. First was against fitzroy in 2007, then greenacres the following year. Think we will sort things out before then. as im not there i cant comment on injurys etc as i dont know but plympton have always found depth in the club and im sure players in the lower grades will fill the spots with pride.
Not sure on the 'smaller grounds ' hurting us as our home ground is not that big.

He's spot on, and i've always said it, Plympton play Plympton Oval woefully!!! and always has!

I've been telling our footy director for the past 3 years to do a deal with Kenilworth to use thier oval for home finals, always falls on deaf ears...

[One Eyed]

Yes sprint thats what I was referring to.

[valleys07]

He's spot on, and i've always said it, Plympton play Plympton Oval woefully!!! and always has!

I've been telling our footy director for the past 3 years to do a deal with Kenilworth to use thier oval for home finals, always falls on deaf ears...[/quote]

Really? i thought you played it bloody well! each to their own i guess.....

[sprinttospace]

Yes sprint thats what I was referring to.

well it was a bit of a comedy of errors. player red carded in thrid quarter prob half way through quarter. fairly chaotic on our bench due to a number of factors. as a result one of our bench players went back on to the ground about 5-6 minutes after the red card. was picked up by someone and resulted in a player count right on the three quarter time siren. 18 players on he ground for us, bit more confusion, umps unsure what to do. end result our score wiped. scores were bos 6.6 to if 3.12. we kick into the wind in the last quarter they kick 3.2 to our 2.1. we were forced to play with 17 in the last quarter as it was claimed incorrectly that we could not replace the red carded player at all. also as it turns out the player count and score reduction was incorrect also as that rule changed a couple of years ago. rule 33 in the handbook from memory.

lucky this game wasn't impacting finals aspirations.

as for depth, we did have a few probs on saturday but should have that rectified with some tissues and codral in the coming week

[Jabber]

He's spot on, and i've always said it, Plympton play Plympton Oval woefully!!! and always has!

I've been telling our footy director for the past 3 years to do a deal with Kenilworth to use thier oval for home finals, always falls on deaf ears...

Really? i thought you played it bloody well! each to their own i guess.....[/quote]

Put it this way, with an oval that is pretty unique in its size, and goal direction, a side that plays on it every 2 weeks should really play it far better than they have done, and this is not just this year im talking about, im talking about over the last 15 years!

We played a final in 04 i think it was, against North Haven in div4, it was played at Panther Park and we won by about ten goals, i've got no doubt that if it was played at Plympton we wouldnt have won.

Wide open spaces gave our runners a chance to move, plenty of space up forward dion hibberd kicked 10. On plympton oval its easier to fill the space, congest the footy, and when you dont have a lot of big bodies you can get cramped for room on Plympton oval if you are always trying to run the ball.

You guys at Hope Valley have got a small oval but you have width as well, plympton does not. its shaped like band-aid

[LaughingKookaburra]

I like your thoughts on having a deal done with us to play home finals at Kenilworth. I could imagine the response. I think its fair to say we have a pretty heated local rivalry. Only we never win in the A's . Been in a couple of B grade sides that have belted the doggies, however the A's a completely different story.

[blacknred]

With the exception of bos as i played in the magoos when we played them, here is my observations of the top 5 teams:

Pulteney- Very evenly balanced side with a good mix of talls and smalls. The only "weakness" that i feel we exploited but couldnt sustain was matching their toughness around the footy at stoppages and creating run similar to them running out of defence. They dont rely on perrie as much as people think and will be almost certain to be in div4 in 2010.

Plympton- My mid season shoe in for the flag after our round 10 meeting has been brought back to the pack. A great side full of class players, but are suspect when pressured into 1 on 1 footy. Play big grounds to perfection as they have a lot of great runners that know how to find space, but when corralled on small ovals ala hv and wos, i feel find the going tough. Very much capable of winning the flag, but with 2 prelim losses hanging over their heads and a few sides exploiting their weaknesses.....what is in store?

Rosewater- The yoyo team of division 5. At their best they can beat anyone in this division, a great mix of hard bodies, hard runners and blokes that know how to find the footy and use it beautifully. Anderson, Uerding, Birch and itzkovich were standouts against us with motlop showing glimpses of match turning class. But their worst, do these players go missingor is their game plan exploitable? it seems to me that there is a bigger gap than that of other sides with their best and worst, with games that we thought would be marked down as wins, turned out to be losses, such as smithies and against us. Certainly capable of promotion, but also capable of a straight sets exit.

wos- For us, the hardest of the top 5 sides to match up on. A fit side with a rock solid defence, midfield that works hard both forward and back and a good mix of talls and smalls up forward. midfield reads o'hara very well and ferris up forward provides a great target. Barber has a number of midfield options that he rotates either of the bench or resting forward and back, and does it very well. In my opinon if they bring their A game in the finals, will be in div 4 next year, they know after last year what it takes, and retaining their core group from last years flag, wouldnt suprise me one bit to see back to back.

As for us, well our fate rests with plympton next weekend. if it gets through to round 18 against blacks, it promises to be a belter, with previous 3 games being decided by about 2 goals in total. This finals series promises to be a cracker, just hope we are a part of it!

please dont remind us of our 2 prelim finals losses. First was against fitzroy in 2007, then greenacres the following year. Think we will sort things out before then. as im not there i cant comment on injurys etc as i dont know but plympton have always found depth in the club and im sure players in the lower grades will fill the spots with pride.
Not sure on the 'smaller grounds ' hurting us as our home ground is not that big.

He's spot on, and i've always said it, Plympton play Plympton Oval woefully!!! and always has!

I've been telling our footy director for the past 3 years to do a deal with Kenilworth to use thier oval for home finals, always falls on deaf ears...

jabber jabber yabber yabber,have heard & listened that the footy director tried to get Kenilworth oval in 2007 elim final V Central U & again last year Prelim V Greenacres but apparently the SAAFL had the final say even after long emails & telephone calls. I do believe he is to get in touch again to see if the club can use it this year he will try his best even when people dont listen to the replies.maybe you know of a better way ?

[mighty hounds]

Going to be a crazy last couple of rounds, The top 2 are stitched up its where the rest finish. I agree dont write Plympton off just yet. Were missing some handy players and have been around the mark for a number of seasons now which may hold them in good stead. Pultney full strength will be virtually impossible to beat but a few injuries to key playes I think would be there achillies heel. I think all the other sides in there may have better depth apart from Blacks after last weekends result. As a WOS person just stoked we are more than likely going to be playing finals 1st year up.

are you referring to the b grade result against ingle farm?

not true one-eyed....if we knock of plympton we can jump them into second....second is a possility for us only i reckon due to the draw we had with them

[Dragons]

Going to be a crazy last couple of rounds, The top 2 are stitched up its where the rest finish. I agree dont write Plympton off just yet. Were missing some handy players and have been around the mark for a number of seasons now which may hold them in good stead. Pultney full strength will be virtually impossible to beat but a few injuries to key playes I think would be there achillies heel. I think all the other sides in there may have better depth apart from Blacks after last weekends result. As a WOS person just stoked we are more than likely going to be playing finals 1st year up.

are you referring to the b grade result against ingle farm?

not true one-eyed....if we knock of plympton we can jump them into second....second is a possility for us only i reckon due to the draw we had with them

You would have to beat them by about 150 points and then stitch up HV in the last round (unless Plympton lose to Smithfield in rnd18).
Mathematically possible but doesn't seem very likely

[sprinttospace]

With the exception of bos as i played in the magoos when we played them, here is my observations of the top 5 teams:

Pulteney- Very evenly balanced side with a good mix of talls and smalls. The only "weakness" that i feel we exploited but couldnt sustain was matching their toughness around the footy at stoppages and creating run similar to them running out of defence. They dont rely on perrie as much as people think and will be almost certain to be in div4 in 2010.

Plympton- My mid season shoe in for the flag after our round 10 meeting has been brought back to the pack. A great side full of class players, but are suspect when pressured into 1 on 1 footy. Play big grounds to perfection as they have a lot of great runners that know how to find space, but when corralled on small ovals ala hv and wos, i feel find the going tough. Very much capable of winning the flag, but with 2 prelim losses hanging over their heads and a few sides exploiting their weaknesses.....what is in store?

Rosewater- The yoyo team of division 5. At their best they can beat anyone in this division, a great mix of hard bodies, hard runners and blokes that know how to find the footy and use it beautifully. Anderson, Uerding, Birch and itzkovich were standouts against us with motlop showing glimpses of match turning class. But their worst, do these players go missingor is their game plan exploitable? it seems to me that there is a bigger gap than that of other sides with their best and worst, with games that we thought would be marked down as wins, turned out to be losses, such as smithies and against us. Certainly capable of promotion, but also capable of a straight sets exit.

wos- For us, the hardest of the top 5 sides to match up on. A fit side with a rock solid defence, midfield that works hard both forward and back and a good mix of talls and smalls up forward. midfield reads o'hara very well and ferris up forward provides a great target. Barber has a number of midfield options that he rotates either of the bench or resting forward and back, and does it very well. In my opinon if they bring their A game in the finals, will be in div 4 next year, they know after last year what it takes, and retaining their core group from last years flag, wouldnt suprise me one bit to see back to back.

As for us, well our fate rests with plympton next weekend. if it gets through to round 18 against blacks, it promises to be a belter, with previous 3 games being decided by about 2 goals in total. This finals series promises to be a cracker, just hope we are a part of it!

please dont remind us of our 2 prelim finals losses. First was against fitzroy in 2007, then greenacres the following year. Think we will sort things out before then. as im not there i cant comment on injurys etc as i dont know but plympton have always found depth in the club and im sure players in the lower grades will fill the spots with pride.
Not sure on the 'smaller grounds ' hurting us as our home ground is not that big.

He's spot on, and i've always said it, Plympton play Plympton Oval woefully!!! and always has!

I've been telling our footy director for the past 3 years to do a deal with Kenilworth to use thier oval for home finals, always falls on deaf ears...

jabber jabber yabber yabber,have heard & listened that the footy director tried to get Kenilworth oval in 2007 elim final V Central U & again last year Prelim V Greenacres but apparently the SAAFL had the final say even after long emails & telephone calls. I do believe he is to get in touch again to see if the club can use it this year he will try his best even when people dont listen to the replies.maybe you know of a better way ?

surely you can't 'host' a home final at a ground other than your own? i would have thought you host at your ground or you get allocated a neutral ground suited to the location of the competing clubs.

[zedman]

yeah you can sprint..SHOC had 3 finals at our ground last year..happy to host plympton if they bring along a few of the WAGS

where would you host sprint if you got one?

[sprinttospace]

yeah you can sprint..SHOC had 3 finals at our ground last year..happy to host plympton if they bring along a few of the WAGS

where would you host sprint if you got one?

are you saying that SHOC had their home final allocated by request to st mary's?
our understanding has been that you host at your own ground or take pot luck with being allocated a neutral ground.
we lost the elimination at smithfield by 1 pt in extra time last year, so we wouldn't choose there

[Lightning McQueen]

yeah you can sprint..SHOC had 3 finals at our ground last year..happy to host plympton if they bring along a few of the WAGS

where would you host sprint if you got one?

are you saying that SHOC had their home final allocated by request to st mary's?
our understanding has been that you host at your own ground or take pot luck with being allocated a neutral ground.
we lost the elimination at smithfield by 1 pt in extra time last year, so we wouldn't choose there

You flogged us there this year though

[mighty hounds]

Going to be a crazy last couple of rounds, The top 2 are stitched up its where the rest finish. I agree dont write Plympton off just yet. Were missing some handy players and have been around the mark for a number of seasons now which may hold them in good stead. Pultney full strength will be virtually impossible to beat but a few injuries to key playes I think would be there achillies heel. I think all the other sides in there may have better depth apart from Blacks after last weekends result. As a WOS person just stoked we are more than likely going to be playing finals 1st year up.

are you referring to the b grade result against ingle farm?

not true one-eyed....if we knock of plympton we can jump them into second....second is a possility for us only i reckon due to the draw we had with them

You would have to beat them by about 150 points and then stitch up HV in the last round (unless Plympton lose to Smithfield in rnd18).
Mathematically possible but doesn't seem very likely

hahah...cant say i looked that far into it. i should research a bit next time

[valleys07]

yeah you can sprint..SHOC had 3 finals at our ground last year..happy to host plympton if they bring along a few of the WAGS

where would you host sprint if you got one?

are you saying that SHOC had their home final allocated by request to st mary's?
our understanding has been that you host at your own ground or take pot luck with being allocated a neutral ground.
we lost the elimination at smithfield by 1 pt in extra time last year, so we wouldn't choose there

You flogged us there this year though

Hey LM, nice effort to keep the shoulders intact saturday but do the finger instead!