SAAFL Div 5 & 5R (2009)

[bulldogs]

thats the trouble at doggie land chris pike a sporting club/footy club is run by seperate committes who all have different ideas on direction on which way there sports should go

look the place is Ingle Farm Sporting Club who have many affiliated sporting bodies such as Football, jnr football, snr and jnr cricket, Darts, golf, eightball, basketball and netball. All these bodies are run seperatley with there own commitees and bank accts. you fundraise to make your own sporting body viable not to balance Christines books what a stupid comment. Each body and there commitees can take there own direction on the way they should go. Maybe more people need to stand up and do something at that footy club. lots of people like to point the finger and have there say but not many get there hands dirty and do something.a legacy of the footy club for many years..now you and magpie seem to be giving a lot to one certain woman. i dont know how long you have been around the club for but you obviously dont have any idea on the history. i would say roughly 10 yrs ago the Ingle Farm Sporting club, footy and cricket were ready to shut the doors from previous mismanagement. Three people Ray, Chris and Brian stood up and took over the sporting club and wanted to see if they could turn the place around. !st thing they done was to make the inside of the clubrooms alot more appealing. They found some sponsors who had not been looked after for years and then went about re tiling, new carpet, chairs, tables etc. they the made sure the club had darts , eightball etc so it was open 7 days a week not 3 days. what a magnificent extension they achieved with the balcony. These three turned the club around on there own whilst ensuring football and cricket survived and moved fwd as footy was doing. so with out these people there would be no Ingle Farm Football club yes they supported Chris Kellett hugely and helped form a committe structured with out players on it but then it turned again and some people just got sick of the shit that was being pointed. i think the club may need to look at there appointments but it certainly hasnt been a great field applying in the past couple.

In the end get off Chris Pikes back she has done more for the whole club in the past 10yrs then probably everyone put together so have a hard look at yourself and see what you critics have done. Good luck to the new coach. i hope you have more success then the others be your own man and do it your way both on and off the field and be a leader for the current and next group of kids.

[magpie]

He's applied at HV before, but never coached there. I only know of him coaching Central United for a few years, but I'm sure he's coached elsewhere as well. Not too sure of his coaching ability, good bloke to have a beer and a chat with though. I reckon he'd be one of those coaches that you either like or hate - no in betweens with nivo

Just hope he got his contract and kept a copy,last coach still waiting to be paid agreed full amount for year.Seems they cant find commitee members that did deal.

I know for a fact magpie that the last coach was recommended to the commitee by a group of people who interviewed him. Now the commitee had the last say they could of went with him or made there own judgement. surely the commitee and dasha sat down and went thru payment etc. why didnt he keep a copy of his contract?

You have to be kidding the club was on its knees when dash took over,a grade had one win by default previous year and 3 different coaches.B grade didnt win a game.Last season they won 4 or 5 a grade b grade prob 6 and played a whole heap of kids in a grade footy and b grade that will benefit the club in the future if they decide to stay.He only went there because he was asked and the challenge of rebuilding a side appealed,its a very big job and one that wasnt going to happen in one season but ask any one that actually played how they felt and im sure they would agree it was a better place and more enjoyable place to play.Also no one is disputing what chris does for club just that she doesnt have the knowledge to pick coaches or tell them how to coach so therefore shouldnt.

[magpie]

this ingle farm appointment has taken a fair while and been a topic of discussion. paul niven sent some info to us previously, seemed to have a pretty reasonable background and also had a bit of a yack to him and he seemed to have some good ideas and pretty inquisitive about our coaching role for '09. good luck to him. a few changes in div 5 coaches for 2009, always makes things intersting.

Excellent observation STS. After turning over 4 coaches in 3 years, I'm sure the committee wanted to invest a little more time into the selection process to ensure they got the right man for the job. I admire anyone who puts their hand up to take on a coaching job at a new club and like you STS I would like to wish Paul the best of luck in 2009.

Your hilarious.

[magpie]

He's applied at HV before, but never coached there. I only know of him coaching Central United for a few years, but I'm sure he's coached elsewhere as well. Not too sure of his coaching ability, good bloke to have a beer and a chat with though. I reckon he'd be one of those coaches that you either like or hate - no in betweens with nivo

Just hope he got his contract and kept a copy,last coach still waiting to be paid agreed full amount for year.Seems they cant find commitee members that did deal.

I know for a fact magpie that the last coach was recommended to the commitee by a group of people who interviewed him. Now the commitee had the last say they could of went with him or made there own judgement. surely the commitee and dasha sat down and went thru payment etc. why didnt he keep a copy of his contract?

He didnt recieve a copy as it was a handshake agreement with people he thought he could trust.You could also ask then why doesnt a club you claim to be so well run have a copy anywhere to be found?or be able to find anyone who knows,but fortunately there is one person they havent spoken to that was on that commitee so see what he remembers soon enough.and how did they come up with the amount they paid him?who did that deal?where is that contract?Hope that answers your question.

[zedman]

a football committe should make football coaching appointments..not a sporting association no matter who they are or what they have done

[Tigers93-94]

Can we assume from all this Ingle Farm talk that a hard year is in store?

[magpie]

mate a president has the job of making judgements on coaches thats why he is a president. you tell me how succesful the previous coach has been obviously not very last season.

Ok now i get it..so you dont have to have played or coached much just be president and you can be an expert on all things footy.Mate I reckon the last coaches playing and coaching record might be just a bit in front anyway.

[zedman]

farmers had good results this year considering everything...couldnt beat us but they knocked off some good scalps in between..dont know the coach but i can confirm he didnt have a lot to work with

[magpie]

a football committe should make football coaching appointments..not a sporting association no matter who they are or what they have done

exactly and thats all ive been saying not disputing what people have done for the club

[magpie]

farmers had good results this year considering everything...couldnt beat us but they knocked off some good scalps in between..dont know the coach but i can confirm he didnt have a lot to work with

Well put...not looking to change clubs are you?you actually know what your talking about.

[zedman]

hehe...i am already committed maggie..but i know what you are saying mate..football ppl should run the football side..just like cricket ppl run the cricket side..would the sporting assoc. decide the farmers cricket coach???

[sprinttospace]

[Ok now i get it..so you dont have to have played or coached much just be president and you can be an expert on all things footy.Mate I reckon the last coaches playing and coaching record might be just a bit in front anyway.

as president you have to lead by making decisions. my view is you have to take advice from people you trust and who have a wide range of experience to give their opinion, but ultimately make the decision and make it work. im not sure there are to many presidents who think they are an expert on all things footy.

its a tough call not to reappoint, you've got to be convinced the decision will be better for the club.

[zedman]

sprint is talking from first hand experience as well..you had a tough call to make this year mate

btw..do you know if terry is coaching anywhere this year?

[magpie]

[Ok now i get it..so you dont have to have played or coached much just be president and you can be an expert on all things footy.Mate I reckon the last coaches playing and coaching record might be just a bit in front anyway.

as president you have to lead by making decisions. my view is you have to take advice from people you trust and who have a wide range of experience to give their opinion, but ultimately make the decision and make it work. im not sure there are to many presidents who think they are an expert on all things footy.

its a tough call not to reappoint, you've got to be convinced the decision will be better for the club.

I agree with what you say,and i am not refering to 99% of presidents i have known a number of excellent ones.But surely you should take advise from your footy committee on these matters.In the end whats done is done and we can all sit back and see if it has been a wise decision.

[bulldogs]

hehe...i am already committed maggie..but i know what you are saying mate..football ppl should run the football side..just like cricket ppl run the cricket side..would the sporting assoc. decide the farmers cricket coach???

the sporting club didnt decide the coach. a group of people unrelated to the sporting club interviewed the applicants and then it was recommended to the football commitee ho they thought was the best fit for the job. it was then up to the footy club to appoint the person for the job. i think you will find the previous coach applied for the job.

[bulldogs]

[Ok now i get it..so you dont have to have played or coached much just be president and you can be an expert on all things footy.Mate I reckon the last coaches playing and coaching record might be just a bit in front anyway.

as president you have to lead by making decisions. my view is you have to take advice from people you trust and who have a wide range of experience to give their opinion, but ultimately make the decision and make it work. im not sure there are to many presidents who think they are an expert on all things footy.

its a tough call not to reappoint, you've got to be convinced the decision will be better for the club.

great post

[bulldogs]

[Ok now i get it..so you dont have to have played or coached much just be president and you can be an expert on all things footy.Mate I reckon the last coaches playing and coaching record might be just a bit in front anyway.

as president you have to lead by making decisions. my view is you have to take advice from people you trust and who have a wide range of experience to give their opinion, but ultimately make the decision and make it work. im not sure there are to many presidents who think they are an expert on all things footy.

its a tough call not to reappoint, you've got to be convinced the decision will be better for the club.

I agree with what you say,and i am not refering to 99% of presidents i have known a number of excellent ones.But surely you should take advise from your footy committee on these matters.In the end whats done is done and we can all sit back and see if it has been a wise decision.

okay play on

[beeroclock]

Your all forgetting one thing,Ingle Farm dont pay bugger all to players,the coach gets bugger all although he does get something,Kellet had contacts and years of quality experience but for mates and committment to ya mates there is no better place to be for the ultimate backs to the wall challenge and what rewards they are,cricket or football,sometimes you just have to be happy in life to bust ya gut for the people and the club ya love and support those in charge,hail the great lady Chris Pike, Ray McCard,Brian Pill for giving me and my family and great place to be around and p**s off all you 5 minute wonders,all the best to the stawarts love ya all.

[magpie]

Your all forgetting one thing,Ingle Farm dont pay bugger all to players,the coach gets bugger all although he does get something,Kellet had contacts and years of quality experience but for mates and committment to ya mates there is no better place to be for the ultimate backs to the wall challenge and what rewards they are,cricket or football,sometimes you just have to be happy in life to bust ya gut for the people and the club ya love and support those in charge,hail the great lady Chris Pike, Ray McCard,Brian Pill for giving me and my family and great place to be around and p**s off all you 5 minute wonders,all the best to the stawarts love ya all.

Stalwarts i think you meant..is that the commitment and backs to the wall,love for your club that makes a coach a couple seasons ago quit after losing first 9 games?Again i have never questioned the effort that the people you mentioned put into the place or in fact mentioned any names.Unfortunately for all this great stuff your telling me about the results have been less than impressive but as long as your all happy with that it wont be a problem.

[magpie]

hehe...i am already committed maggie..but i know what you are saying mate..football ppl should run the football side..just like cricket ppl run the cricket side..would the sporting assoc. decide the farmers cricket coach???

the sporting club didnt decide the coach. a group of people unrelated to the sporting club interviewed the applicants and then it was recommended to the football commitee ho they thought was the best fit for the job. it was then up to the footy club to appoint the person for the job. i think you will find the previous coach applied for the job.

The previous coach did not apply for the job thats for certain