SAAFL Div 5 & 5R (2009)

[(S)aintbackline]

as i said..the umpires apologised to us for making mistakes..but he never said what mistake he made???

and from the replies i have read no-one really knows what the rule is..its a grey area?

He spoke to me after the half time break and explained that two yellow cards should have been a non-replacement of player for 10mins. We replaced our player within that 10 mins (after checking with the umpire to see if we were allowed) so he said that the count of players was actually a correct call by you (ie: we had 1 too many on the ground) but due to the fact we had been instructed that we could replace (and at the time he believed the rules to be different) you were ruled to have called an incorrect count hence the free kick and 50m to us.

Now...theory and what ifs

Once a player is given a yellow card he is sent from the ground and is allowed to be replaced.
At what point is the player no longer on the ground? At the issue of a yellow or when the player leaves the field?
It only states that a player cannot be replaced for 10mins if they get a second yellow.
What if they are already off the ground (or deemed to be off the ground)?
Does a team then need to remove a player from the field?

thanks maddog..thats given it a bit more clarity..it certainly wasnt us trying to get a cheap win..we believed he couldnt be replaced and he had been..and as the ump said to you guys..we were correct to ask for a count..but then he gave the free and 50m penalty against us..confusion reigned

all it would have taken to clear up the matter was for the captain of kenilworth to ask the ump if the player was allowed to be replaced, instead the turkey that was match day official was screaming and jumping up and down to get the runner out to the captain to ask the ump for a head count..

[Jabber]

Have I read it right Plympton with 9 changes from the last time WOS played them. Wow thats alot

Yeah that would probably be right

[One Eyed]

When was the last time Big Hamish played.?? looks like a fair bit of height back but some decent run gone

[FOOTY TALK]

Blackfriars to knock off Rosewater at home. Rossies tend to feel the pressure a bit too hard to handle in home finals.
Westminster to beat Plympton.

[Bradman]

Blackfriars to knock off Rosewater at home. Rossies tend to feel the pressure a bit too hard to handle in home finals.
Westminster to beat Plympton.

[FOOTY TALK]

Come on brad, whats your record like in home finals???

[Bradman]

Come on brad, whats your record like in home finals???

How far back do you want me to go?

[FOOTY TALK]

Come on brad, whats your record like in home finals???

How far back do you want me to go?

Last 3 years maybe.

[Lightning McQueen]

Come on brad, whats your record like in home finals???

How far back do you want me to go?

Last 3 years maybe.

They haven't lost one in that time frame.

[FOOTY TALK]

Didnt they go out in straight sets in two home finals.

[Bradman]

Come on brad, whats your record like in home finals???

How far back do you want me to go?

Last 3 years maybe.

Played 1 Final in last 3 years in div 4

Score :

Rosewater
9.10 64 v Unley 8.8 56

MMMM........

[Bradman]

Didnt they go out in straight sets in two home finals.

2004 in div 4 they lost 2 finals
2003 in div 5 won their home finals +GF

anyway 4 players from 03,04 will be playing in 2009
Dont reckon the other 18 players have many mental scars from 04

[FOOTY TALK]

MMMM.... indeed.
Thought I had my finger on the pulse.

[The Ash Man]

My understanding of the red card was that the player is off for the rest of the game and cannot be replaced for 10 minutes
After that 10 minutes he can be replaced

touche.

No, your understanding is actually wrong, although more often than not that is the way the umps do it, but it is entirely up to the umps to decide the course of action.

But yellow card is a set 10m

And i'm with whoever said it, a yellow card should be 10m with 17 men, that would really penalise and you'd see less red cards if the yellow was more severe.

I think its grey because there is actually no set-in-stone red card procedure, as i said it is pretty much up to the umps to decide on the severity of it, and penalise accordingly.

My understanding also is that it is up to the ump, but even they are not sure. Last issue we had even asked ump can we replace (had red card) and his smart arse answer was check the rule book.

I had the same response - my thoughts were that he didn't know either...

[boozers]

10 changes in fact,should be a top game by the way,can't wait!

[boozers]

Have I read it right Plympton with 9 changes from the last time WOS played them. Wow thats alot

Yeah that would probably be right

OOPS..lol 10 changes in fact,should be a top game by the way,can't wait!

[zedman]

10 is a lot..maybe to many..anyone got a list for perusal ..one eyed?

[Foul Mouth]

http://www.saafl.asn.au/matchprogram.php?gId=66379&s=2009&g=D5&r=QF&v=29&hteamid=T1657&ateamid=T1661&gdate=22/08/2009&gtime=14:15:00:000&vname=St%20Marys%20Park&hclub=Plympton&aclub=Westminster%20OS

There you go Zed, and I get 9 not 10 changes

[zedman]

looks like ranenberg is out which is a huge blow..along with lange and of course shep from earlier..the rest look to be playing but i am not an expert on plympton

burt is a junior..control gino and smith and they may struggle to kick a winning score imo..westminster for me by 5 goals

and blacks to win in a closer game than last time they met..

have a good weekend all

[full foward]

Well done to the hawk in winning b&f at ingle farm great bloke tough footballer.Still has his best footy to play in cairns with state side for masters comp and then in ireland for his country good luck hawk your a champ well done.