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Re: Are people who claim college teams are soft softer?

Postby HH3 » Tue Dec 23, 2008 3:58 pm

And I dont think he should of got in a fight with the crowd. I think he should've sat on the bench in case his team had injuries towards the end of the game and needed him.
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Re: Are people who claim college teams are soft softer?

Postby amber_fluid » Tue Dec 23, 2008 4:00 pm

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Dolphin Express wrote:I have just read this load of tripe for the first time today, Hackham, The once off incidents you have mentioned are the exeption not the rule. I know the incident you are talking about with the young bloke. And our guy didn't jump in his car and drive off, It was undisciplined and he copped his suspension. He probably didn't feel like copping it from your supporters after doing what he knew was wrong. By your description you think he should have got involved in a fight with the crowd or other players in order to prove he was tough. There are many incidents that you have overlooked when it comes to Incidents between Havens and CBC. But for me to point them out would make me as petty as you.

Jimmy with reference to the snorkel comment, 10 years ago the complete revamp of the drainage system has now made our oval well drained in the odd chance that it rains in Adelaide. Not sure how long since you played there, but totally different now.


Well I bet our kid didnt feel like copping an elbow in the face either and being in hospital till nearly midnight. I can only comment on the incidents Ive seen first hand mate.


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Re: Are people who claim college teams are soft softer?

Postby HH3 » Tue Dec 23, 2008 4:02 pm

yeah
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Re: Are people who claim college teams are soft softer?

Postby Jimmy_041 » Tue Dec 23, 2008 4:05 pm

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Still doesn't stop you though Jimmy!! :D All in good fun!!


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Re: Are people who claim college teams are soft softer?

Postby Jimmy_041 » Tue Dec 23, 2008 4:07 pm

amber_fluid wrote:
hackham_hawk_3 wrote:
Dolphin Express wrote:I have just read this load of tripe for the first time today, Hackham, The once off incidents you have mentioned are the exeption not the rule. I know the incident you are talking about with the young bloke. And our guy didn't jump in his car and drive off, It was undisciplined and he copped his suspension. He probably didn't feel like copping it from your supporters after doing what he knew was wrong. By your description you think he should have got involved in a fight with the crowd or other players in order to prove he was tough. There are many incidents that you have overlooked when it comes to Incidents between Havens and CBC. But for me to point them out would make me as petty as you.

Jimmy with reference to the snorkel comment, 10 years ago the complete revamp of the drainage system has now made our oval well drained in the odd chance that it rains in Adelaide. Not sure how long since you played there, but totally different now.


Well I bet our kid didnt feel like copping an elbow in the face either and being in hospital till nearly midnight. I can only comment on the incidents Ive seen first hand mate.


was the young kid you talk about Jimmy? dreadlocks?


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Re: Are people who claim college teams are soft softer?

Postby Dolphin Express » Tue Dec 23, 2008 4:09 pm

hackham_hawk_3 wrote:And I dont think he should of got in a fight with the crowd. I think he should've sat on the bench in case his team had injuries towards the end of the game and needed him.


I doubt he was allowed to return to the field anyway.

Jimmy, agreed Ovals of both our clubs leave alot to be desired.
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Re: Are people who claim college teams are soft softer?

Postby HH3 » Tue Dec 23, 2008 4:11 pm

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hackham_hawk_3 wrote:And I dont think he should of got in a fight with the crowd. I think he should've sat on the bench in case his team had injuries towards the end of the game and needed him.


I doubt he was allowed to return to the field anyway.

Jimmy, agreed Ovals of both our clubs leave alot to be desired.


Fair call. I actually didnt mind CBCs when it hadnt rained for at least a week. But the Prelim in 2005 (I think) was pretty bad.
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Re: Are people who claim college teams are soft softer?

Postby Jimmy_041 » Tue Dec 23, 2008 4:18 pm

Letting a little trade secret out here :-$ :-$ :-$

A few of us were hoping PNU was going to fall over a couple of years back when they had that money stolen - PNU Oval would now be PAOC Park BUT..... everyone always kicks out of bounds coz its as bent as a Cheech & Chong film :weedman: :weedman: :weedman:
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Re: Are people who claim college teams are soft softer?

Postby Fricky » Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:58 am

Getting back to the topic of college teams being soft. all i'll say is that a few years back Old Iggies wrote in their game day newsletter that 6 A grade players had rung the coach on Saturday morning and had pulled out of the away game the week before. They were playing Salisbury West, and the newsletter said that the curse of Grand Juntion Rd struck again, which tells me that they regularly have players pull out of games because they dont want to venture to far into the north suburbs. That spells soft to me.

Overall however, I dont think College teams are too soft, they all have a pretty good running game and their game plans tend to involve less contested play so you wont see too many body on body incidents then other games. CBCOC are defintely a harder college team, some players are dirty (as in 3 or 4 across A and B grade), SHOC, ROCS and Pembroke I wouldnt place in the soft catergory. SPOC, PAOC, Scotch, Old Iggies I have played against and I wouldnt say they back out of contests but its easy to get their confidence down with a few good tackles and getting a couple of goals ahead of them. Pulteney, Blackfriars, Trinity, St Paul's I've never played against so i cant comment on whether they are soft or not.

And I wouldnt place SMOSH/West Lakes or PHOS Camden in the College teams pile.
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Re: Are people who claim college teams are soft softer?

Postby Footy Chick » Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:05 am

Jimmy_041 wrote:Letting a little trade secret out here :-$ :-$ :-$

A few of us were hoping PNU was going to fall over a couple of years back when they had that money stolen - PNU Oval would now be PAOC Park BUT..... everyone always kicks out of bounds coz its as bent as a Cheech & Chong film :weedman: :weedman: :weedman:


Not quite,the offer was made to you guys to use the downstairs bar which from memory was duly considered but not sure why it didn't go through..
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Re: Are people who claim college teams are soft softer?

Postby schimma » Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:20 am

Suri wrote:Getting back to the topic of college teams being soft. all i'll say is that a few years back Old Iggies wrote in their game day newsletter that 6 A grade players had rung the coach on Saturday morning and had pulled out of the away game the week before. They were playing Salisbury West, and the newsletter said that the curse of Grand Juntion Rd struck again, which tells me that they regularly have players pull out of games because they dont want to venture to far into the north suburbs. That spells soft to me.

Overall however, I dont think College teams are too soft, they all have a pretty good running game and their game plans tend to involve less contested play so you wont see too many body on body incidents then other games. CBCOC are defintely a harder college team, some players are dirty (as in 3 or 4 across A and B grade), SHOC, ROCS and Pembroke I wouldnt place in the soft catergory. SPOC, PAOC, Scotch, Old Iggies I have played against and I wouldnt say they back out of contests but its easy to get their confidence down with a few good tackles and getting a couple of goals ahead of them. Pulteney, Blackfriars, Trinity, St Paul's I've never played against so i cant comment on whether they are soft or not.




And I wouldnt place SMOSH/West Lakes or PHOS Camden in the College teams pile.





why would you not place smosh as a college side. 85% to 90% of players all went to the school, and they are even playing a game at the school this year.
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Re: Are people who claim college teams are soft softer?

Postby Footy Chick » Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:25 am

and St Micks have produced faaaar better school footy sides than most of the above (with the exception of Sacred Heart and the Rossi Boys) ever did...

PHOS was Plympton high... not a college...

*edit* - Suri, you've contradicted yourself in your statement, firstly saying that college side don't like the contested play (which is soft), then saying that certain teams wouldn't back out of a contest?
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Re: Are people who claim college teams are soft softer?

Postby Iron Fist » Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:38 am

schimma wrote:
Suri wrote:Getting back to the topic of college teams being soft. all i'll say is that a few years back Old Iggies wrote in their game day newsletter that 6 A grade players had rung the coach on Saturday morning and had pulled out of the away game the week before. They were playing Salisbury West, and the newsletter said that the curse of Grand Juntion Rd struck again, which tells me that they regularly have players pull out of games because they dont want to venture to far into the north suburbs. That spells soft to me.

Overall however, I dont think College teams are too soft, they all have a pretty good running game and their game plans tend to involve less contested play so you wont see too many body on body incidents then other games. CBCOC are defintely a harder college team, some players are dirty (as in 3 or 4 across A and B grade), SHOC, ROCS and Pembroke I wouldnt place in the soft catergory. SPOC, PAOC, Scotch, Old Iggies I have played against and I wouldnt say they back out of contests but its easy to get their confidence down with a few good tackles and getting a couple of goals ahead of them. Pulteney, Blackfriars, Trinity, St Paul's I've never played against so i cant comment on whether they are soft or not.




And I wouldnt place SMOSH/West Lakes or PHOS Camden in the College teams pile.





why would you not place smosh as a college side. 85% to 90% of players all went to the school, and they are even playing a game at the school this year.


that is true schimma
but I believe smosh are the exception to the rule,
with most of the boys that do go there cause they went to st micks they have played at a metro west junior club when they were younger. meaning that they play a 'suburban' style of footy in comparrison to the 'college' running soft style of football.

PHOS arent a college side and dont play that style of footy from what Ive seen of them!
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Re: Are people who claim college teams are soft softer?

Postby Iron Fist » Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:40 am

Footy Chick wrote:and St Micks have produced faaaar better school footy sides than most of the above (with the exception of Sacred Heart and the Rossi Boys) ever did...

PHOS was Plympton high... not a college...

*edit* - Suri, you've contradicted yourself in your statement, firstly saying that college side don't like the contested play (which is soft), then saying that certain teams wouldn't back out of a contest?


in the last few years
I think you will find PAc and St peters have also had very strong sides!
my opinion of colege footy sides sacred heart, St micks, PAOC, St Peters and Rostrevor would be the best sides in the comp, the last 4 can be in any order with sacred heart being the best majority of the time!
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Re: Are people who claim college teams are soft softer?

Postby schimma » Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:54 am

Iron Fist wrote:
Footy Chick wrote:and St Micks have produced faaaar better school footy sides than most of the above (with the exception of Sacred Heart and the Rossi Boys) ever did...

PHOS was Plympton high... not a college...

*edit* - Suri, you've contradicted yourself in your statement, firstly saying that college side don't like the contested play (which is soft), then saying that certain teams wouldn't back out of a contest?


in the last few years
I think you will find PAc and St peters have also had very strong sides!
my opinion of colege footy sides sacred heart, St micks, PAOC, St Peters and Rostrevor would be the best sides in the comp, the last 4 can be in any order with sacred heart being the best majority of the time!



when i was at school 10 years ago we played port and eagles in trial games and beat them easy. then went on to lose to Sacred heard by 10 goals during the season. Sacred Heart are clearly the best school in Sa for footy. But immanuel ( who won it when i was yr 12), st micks, rostrever have had there good years as well.
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Re: Are people who claim college teams are soft softer?

Postby Footy Chick » Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:01 pm

Blackfriars were also good in my time (late 80's, early 90's) .but one suspects they bought their team with reports that students were offered a scholarship to finish schooling there...

Even reports of one student (a Crow legend) offered a Beamer to boot...
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Re: Are people who claim college teams are soft softer?

Postby Esteban Vihaio » Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:59 pm

schimma wrote:why would you not place smosh as a college side. 85% to 90% of players all went to the school, an they are even playing a game at the school this year.


SMOSH, dirty yes, hard no.
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Re: Are people who claim college teams are soft softer?

Postby schimma » Tue Jan 06, 2009 1:04 pm

Esteban Vihaio wrote:
schimma wrote:why would you not place smosh as a college side. 85% to 90% of players all went to the school, an they are even playing a game at the school this year.


SMOSH, dirty yes, hard no.




how are they dirty, example??????
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Re: Are people who claim college teams are soft softer?

Postby Esteban Vihaio » Tue Jan 06, 2009 1:58 pm

schimma wrote:
Esteban Vihaio wrote:
schimma wrote:why would you not place smosh as a college side. 85% to 90% of players all went to the school, an they are even playing a game at the school this year.


SMOSH, dirty yes, hard no.




how are they dirty, example??????

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Look we all accept it gets a bit rougher in the lower grades, but when I watched one of their c-grade games last year, SMOSH were an utter disgrace, way way way passed ferral. A dozen or so players serially striking guys either from behind or who were at the bottom of packs. A few just looked to hit the smaller kids.

Now I've played a couple of incident free trials against smosh in late 90's or early 2000, but for me, after seeing such an appalling display, I judiciously paint the whole club with the same brush.

Clubs that don't eliminate these losers, generally see their club disintegrate.
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Re: Are people who claim college teams are soft softer?

Postby Iron Fist » Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:02 pm

Esteban Vihaio wrote:
schimma wrote:
Esteban Vihaio wrote:
schimma wrote:why would you not place smosh as a college side. 85% to 90% of players all went to the school, an they are even playing a game at the school this year.


SMOSH, dirty yes, hard no.




how are they dirty, example??????

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Look we all accept it gets a bit rougher in the lower grades, but when I watched one of their c-grade games last year, SMOSH were an utter disgrace, way way way passed ferral. A dozen or so players serially striking guys either from behind or who were at the bottom of packs. A few just looked to hit the smaller kids.

Now I've played a couple of incident free trials against smosh in late 90's or early 2000, but for me, after seeing such an appalling display, I judiciously paint the whole club with the same brush.

Clubs that don't eliminate these losers, generally see their club disintegrate.


thats fair about that being disgraceful
but from some of the names who played C's last year, those bloeks as far as I know wouldnt know how to throw a punch
sure a few blokes would have been thugs but like you said estaban, alot of sides get like that in the lower grades!
not condoning it but I would almost say its expected that a little bit of biff occurs in the lower grades!
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