SAAFL Division 1 & D1R (2012)

[t170]

After being guaranteed by the Pt Adel Enfield Council that they would definately be playing at Gaza on June 30th they went and organised a big day and night with band booked - were told yesterday now not until late July if at all.

[Slots It Through]

Interesting, Burnett back to Stalisbury West I would say and Erskine back to Salisbury North. What about Shannon, Sharpe and Wellington? I think Shannon is from the country?

I've seen Scotty Burnett listed several times to play ressies this season only to see him playing for Salisbury West come Saturday's. Interesting considering he won the U/18 medal last season.

Yes I have seen and made note of that a few times and yes agreed LM, very interesting looks like he was just making/missing out playing reserves each week, I honestly thought he'd make the reserves 21 each week no worries.

He struggled to make the reserves side for about the first 4 rounds, but then came into the reserves side and had played 5 or 6 in a row.

[Lightning McQueen]

After being guaranteed by the Pt Adel Enfield Council that they would definately be playing at Gaza on June 30th they went and organised a big day and night with band booked - were told yesterday now not until late July if at all.

Surely you'd only book it tentatively that far out.

[test]

After being guaranteed by the Pt Adel Enfield Council that they would definately be playing at Gaza on June 30th they went and organised a big day and night with band booked - were told yesterday now not until late July if at all.

Surely you'd only book it tentatively that far out.

Would of thought its standard to add at least a month to any completion date on a construction project...

[wristwatcher]

They have already added at least 3. GFC have every right to feel frustrated by the delays .

[locky801]

After being guaranteed by the Pt Adel Enfield Council that they would definately be playing at Gaza on June 30th they went and organised a big day and night with band booked - were told yesterday now not until late July if at all.

Surely you'd only book it tentatively that far out.

Winters here, ground will take even longer to get up to playing standard, be surprised if they get a game there this season at all

[bloods08]

Sack Greg Anderson? When do you think clubs will realise how fortunate they are to have the experience of exAFL players teaching their group - it isn't always about winning matches but teaching both kids & adult players how to be better. Maybe Gepps Cross simply aren't good enough. Round 16 last year relegation looked likely then the results fell their way and they stumbled into the 5, so maybe Div 2 is where the club belongs. And I hear the highest paid player "forgets" where the oval is on training nights so that can't be good for the team morale. But of course, some clubs like to model themselves on "AFL best practice" and this always ends badly when these leaders move on. If I was involved at Gepps I would be making sure now that Greg Anderson didn't go anywhere.

Great post. Couldn't agree more.

[bird of prey]

Sack Greg Anderson? When do you think clubs will realise how fortunate they are to have the experience of exAFL players teaching their group - it isn't always about winning matches but teaching both kids & adult players how to be better. Maybe Gepps Cross simply aren't good enough. Round 16 last year relegation looked likely then the results fell their way and they stumbled into the 5, so maybe Div 2 is where the club belongs. And I hear the highest paid player "forgets" where the oval is on training nights so that can't be good for the team morale. But of course, some clubs like to model themselves on "AFL best practice" and this always ends badly when these leaders move on. If I was involved at Gepps I would be making sure now that Greg Anderson didn't go anywhere.

Great post. Couldn't agree more.

What good is having the experience of playing afl if you can't pass on anything to your players. May as well pay him to come to the club for a regular "sportsmans night" if all he is there to do is tell stories and not coach.
Not saying anything bad about ando directly, but saying they are lucky to have an experienced afl player coaching them and to be grateful for it is a bit naive.
Judge them on their coaching ability, and that alone. No one is disputing his playing ability.
Nobody outside the club, or anyone that has not been coached by him can praise him up or defend him, because they wouldn't have any idea what he is like as a coach!

[LMA]

After being guaranteed by the Pt Adel Enfield Council that they would definately be playing at Gaza on June 30th they went and organised a big day and night with band booked - were told yesterday now not until late July if at all.

WTF GAZA is as much as the port as is the AFL is as a fair fixture, We don't want them. Peninsula Proud

[lutz]

After being guaranteed by the Pt Adel Enfield Council that they would definately be playing at Gaza on June 30th they went and organised a big day and night with band booked - were told yesterday now not until late July if at all.

WTF GAZA is as much as the port as is the AFL is as a fair fixture, We don't want them. Peninsula Proud

Geez settle down LMA, enfield does cover quite a large area.
FWIW, I was always doubtful Gaza would play much if at all at home this season... The date provided would have been a best case scenario.

[Caramels]

Sack Greg Anderson? When do you think clubs will realise how fortunate they are to have the experience of exAFL players teaching their group - it isn't always about winning matches but teaching both kids & adult players how to be better. Maybe Gepps Cross simply aren't good enough. Round 16 last year relegation looked likely then the results fell their way and they stumbled into the 5, so maybe Div 2 is where the club belongs. And I hear the highest paid player "forgets" where the oval is on training nights so that can't be good for the team morale. But of course, some clubs like to model themselves on "AFL best practice" and this always ends badly when these leaders move on. If I was involved at Gepps I would be making sure now that Greg Anderson didn't go anywhere.

Barrie Robran and Russell Ebert were extremely good players, tried the coaching role and not much in results. Being a great player doesn't necessarily flow on to making that person a great coach.


I think BOP is speaking from personal experience and may be correct in his summary.

[TIRED TIGER]

Sack Greg Anderson? When do you think clubs will realise how fortunate they are to have the experience of exAFL players teaching their group - it isn't always about winning matches but teaching both kids & adult players how to be better. Maybe Gepps Cross simply aren't good enough. Round 16 last year relegation looked likely then the results fell their way and they stumbled into the 5, so maybe Div 2 is where the club belongs. And I hear the highest paid player "forgets" where the oval is on training nights so that can't be good for the team morale. But of course, some clubs like to model themselves on "AFL best practice" and this always ends badly when these leaders move on. If I was involved at Gepps I would be making sure now that Greg Anderson didn't go anywhere.

Barrie Robran and Russell Ebert were extremely good players, tried the coaching role and not much in results. Being a great player doesn't necessarily flow on to making that person a great coach.


I think BOP is speaking from personal experience and may be correct in his summary.

didn't Greg Anderson get Gaza to a couple of Preliminary finals,perhaps the players let him down on the big stage. Seemed no problem him winning a flag at Cove(their first ever)He might not be a great coach,(according to a lot of experts) however the Gepps Cross side he has at the moment is far and away limited on talent compared to the previous sides under Jacko and Rawlo. Perhaps the problem is deeper than the coach,but at the end of the day most coaches tenures are driven by the win/loss ratio sadly

[NO-MERCY]

didn't Greg Anderson get Gaza to a couple of Preliminary finals,perhaps the players let him down on the big stage. Seemed no problem him winning a flag at Cove(their first ever)He might not be a great coach,(according to a lot of experts) however the Gepps Cross side he has at the moment is far and away limited on talent compared to the previous sides under Jacko and Rawlo. Perhaps the problem is deeper than the coach,but at the end of the day most coaches tenures are driven by the win/loss ratio sadly[/quote]

I agree with you TT.
Ando took Gaza to 2 Grand Finals & the players choked both times & blamed the coach.
Gaza nearly choked again last year against SHOC.
Geez if they lost that Grainger would of been copping the same old sh!t!

[Yardy Lard]

Even the best coach and coaching group will only lift a group of players 2-3 spots higher on the ladder than their ability levels dictate. This playing group from Gepps Cross, do not seem nearly as good, as in other years, so it is hard for Anderson to lift them anywhere. They are young, inexperienced and have a load of injuries of which there is not the depth to cover. No coach or coaching group can do well, or a club supporter group can not expect miracles, with a group that just is not good enough. Even the very best coaches would not do much with such a young and inexperienced group. You have the great Kevin Sheedy in charge of GWS this year, and even he is unlikely to get close to making the finals for 3 or 4 years (at best) The next coach will be the beneficiary. The old saying - "if you don't have the cattle you won't win the blue ribbon"

[bird of prey]

Hmmm, Gaza didn't rate Ando, Gepps don't rate him, South didn't rate him, but Cove do. Maybe he's more suited to the lower levels of the southern league where the professionalism isn't that high.
Plus, we had a pretty awesome squad those years Ando coached at gaza. Wouldn't have to have done much for us to go top 3. Even if we won flags those years, I doubt the opinion would've changed. He just may have extended his tenure at the club slightly longer. Sometimes the win loss records are misleading when judging a coach.

[bird of prey]

didn't Greg Anderson get Gaza to a couple of Preliminary finals,perhaps the players let him down on the big stage. Seemed no problem him winning a flag at Cove(their first ever)He might not be a great coach,(according to a lot of experts) however the Gepps Cross side he has at the moment is far and away limited on talent compared to the previous sides under Jacko and Rawlo. Perhaps the problem is deeper than the coach,but at the end of the day most coaches tenures are driven by the win/loss ratio sadly

I agree with you TT.
Ando took Gaza to 2 Grand Finals & the players choked both times & blamed the coach.
Gaza nearly choked again last year against SHOC.
Geez if they lost that Grainger would of been copping the same old sh!t![/quote]
But we didn't lose NM, and we didn't "choke". And we are all happy with the coach

[Easy Miss]

Hmmm, Gaza didn't rate Ando, Gepps don't rate him, South didn't rate him, but Cove do. Maybe he's more suited to the lower levels of the southern league where the professionalism isn't that high.
Plus, we had a pretty awesome squad those years Ando coached at gaza. Wouldn't have to have done much for us to go top 3. Even if we won flags those years, I doubt the opinion would've changed. He just may have extended his tenure at the club slightly longer. Sometimes the win loss records are misleading when judging a coach.

It's funny when you compare Grainger and Anderson as footballers they were worlds apart. One played AFL the other was a scrubber, but compared as coaches, there is no doubt who GAZA rates higher.

[EB53]

I think BOP is speaking from personal experience and may be correct in his summary.[/quote]
didn't Greg Anderson get Gaza to a couple of Preliminary finals,perhaps the players let him down on the big stage. Seemed no problem him winning a flag at Cove(their first ever)He might not be a great coach,(according to a lot of experts) however the Gepps Cross side he has at the moment is far and away limited on talent compared to the previous sides under Jacko and Rawlo. Perhaps the problem is deeper than the coach,but at the end of the day most coaches tenures are driven by the win/loss ratio sadly[/quote]



An interesting observation arises from the above and previous posts in relation to what a coach brings to a club other than his past playing history. If you look at the past 3 Gepps Cross coaches, there is one glaring anomaly;

Neil Rawlings 14 recruits
Sean Jackson 1 recruit
Greg Anderson 1 recruit

Does this suggest some are prepared to work harder at improving a club's list of players than the others? I think the answer and the result is in the above numbers.

[bird of prey]

I think BOP is speaking from personal experience and may be correct in his summary.

didn't Greg Anderson get Gaza to a couple of Preliminary finals,perhaps the players let him down on the big stage. Seemed no problem him winning a flag at Cove(their first ever)He might not be a great coach,(according to a lot of experts) however the Gepps Cross side he has at the moment is far and away limited on talent compared to the previous sides under Jacko and Rawlo. Perhaps the problem is deeper than the coach,but at the end of the day most coaches tenures are driven by the win/loss ratio sadly[/quote]



An interesting observation arises from the above and previous posts in relation to what a coach brings to a club other than his past playing history. If you look at the past 3 Gepps Cross coaches, there is one glaring anomaly;

Neil Rawlings 14 recruits
Sean Jackson 1 recruit
Greg Anderson 1 recruit

Does this suggest some are prepared to work harder at improving a club's list of players than the others? I think the answer and the result is in the above numbers.[/quote]

Well said
What some people fail to realize is that a bad list of players can be due to the coach either not being good, or not being able to recruit. Either way, they are 2 pretty important parts of coaching.

[TIRED TIGER]

I think BOP is speaking from personal experience and may be correct in his summary.

didn't Greg Anderson get Gaza to a couple of Preliminary finals,perhaps the players let him down on the big stage. Seemed no problem him winning a flag at Cove(their first ever)He might not be a great coach,(according to a lot of experts) however the Gepps Cross side he has at the moment is far and away limited on talent compared to the previous sides under Jacko and Rawlo. Perhaps the problem is deeper than the coach,but at the end of the day most coaches tenures are driven by the win/loss ratio sadly[/quote]



An interesting observation arises from the above and previous posts in relation to what a coach brings to a club other than his past playing history. If you look at the past 3 Gepps Cross coaches, there is one glaring anomaly;

Neil Rawlings 14 recruits
Sean Jackson 1 recruit
Greg Anderson 1 recruit

Does this suggest some are prepared to work harder at improving a club's list of players than the others? I think the answer and the result is in the above numbers.[/quote]

EB53 correct me if I am wrong but what I remember was the Budget for players when Jacko took over from Neil was halved. Perhaps that mightn't have helped recruiting either.Jacko would be one of the hardest working coaches recruiting wise I have ever known.Don't know about Andersons budget so can't comment on his recruiting ability Plus homegrown Gepps Cross lads walking out the door certainly doesn't help. As I said the problems may be deeper than the coach