SAAFL Div 4 & 4R (2009)

[Lightning McQueen]

ah ok so why dont you play in the APFL or have you played out here before?
Who are the blokes you know in APFL?

That would give my identity away immediately if I named who I knew out there. No, I've never played in the APFL, I've only ever played for two clubs, both in the SAAFL.

[amber_fluid]

well talk about interesting footy chick...
why dont u play in the APFL huh huh huh?

I'm far too good a football player to play in that league..

I'm waiting for that lucrative offer from NFL as a kicker

arse kicker?? or is that Licker??

[Footy Chick]

I'm good at kicking arses, it's my specialty

licking? You're grose

[The Big Shrek]

well talk about interesting footy chick...
why dont u play in the APFL huh huh huh?

I'm far too good a football player to play in that league..

I'm waiting for that lucrative offer from NFL as a kicker

No deal FC! Americans value freedom of speech.

[keen observer]

or maybe carpet licker?

[The Big Shrek]

or maybe carpet licker?

The cat's mother won't be happy at you for saying that. Expect a textual spanking via PM!

[S Demon]

Exactly, so toddle off to your own thread and tell each other how good you blokes are and let the rest of us make silly predictions based on rumours and innuendo...

Toddle off back to Div 5 thread.
I wonder if we will ease ourselves into trial games again this season with another game against your club?

Keep saying that about div 5. I love it!! Sounds so good to finally be out of div 6!

Not sure what we've got in mind as far as trial games go. Don't see why not though, this years game was quite good for a trial game. stinkin hot, but of a good standard and both teams made the GF in their respective division so we could be on to something there! (no, i'm not saying we're both going to make the GF in our new divisions before you all jump down my throat)

[S Demon]

Yes, but i think what he is getting is rather than try to guess about other clubs when we havent got much of an idea, contrubiting some info about where your own club sits, and why, may be a more enlightening conversation, rather than going round in a ladder predicting circle.

Exactly, so toddle off to your own thread and tell each other how good you blokes are and let the rest of us make silly predictions based on rumours and innuendo...

You must buy the New Idea and Womens Weekly SD ?? Full of mind numbing rumours in there too for you to ingest...

Well, you seem to know what's in those magazines! Nah, I prefer to get my rumours from the footy chick in her footy budget column!

[test]

Yeah, the SW placement I didn't really have a clue about. I don't know what the div 4 standard is like but they were pretty average this year and I can't see too many of them hanging around.

They knocked you guys off though, I reckon they'll get some players back this year with no Francis, I hear Broady's not coaching at United so they might get a couple back from there. I heard all of the Westies team got a minimum payment last season, win, lose or draw, pretty crap way to try & get the best out of players if they are going to get the same amount whatever the result.

so your saying at smithfield if theres not a win incentive guys wont put in 100%??? would of thought anyone who plays sport plays to win regardless the result. yeah a small few might like that added incentive but seems by that comment that your players wont have a dip unless theres a carrot dangling for the win?

[old moz]

Yeah, the SW placement I didn't really have a clue about. I don't know what the div 4 standard is like but they were pretty average this year and I can't see too many of them hanging around.

They knocked you guys off though, I reckon they'll get some players back this year with no Francis, I hear Broady's not coaching at United so they might get a couple back from there. I heard all of the Westies team got a minimum payment last season, win, lose or draw, pretty crap way to try & get the best out of players if they are going to get the same amount whatever the result.

so your saying at smithfield if theres not a win incentive guys wont put in 100%??? would of thought anyone who plays sport plays to win regardless the result. yeah a small few might like that added incentive but seems by that comment that your players wont have a dip unless theres a carrot dangling for the win?

teste. you must be a politician or a media adviser to one to spin LMQs reply 100% around and put it back on Smithfield.

[Roaring Lion!]

ah ok so why dont you play in the APFL or have you played out here before?
Who are the blokes you know in APFL?

That would give my identity away immediately if I named who I knew out there. No, I've never played in the APFL, I've only ever played for two clubs, both in the SAAFL.

Hey Lightining which other SAAFL club did u play for then before Smithfeild? Under your profile it says Tantanoola as your club is this a mistake or have u played MSEFL before, if so what years as i have played down in that league also?

[Roaring Lion!]

Wow! That order didn't keep the spaces, Lets try that again,

In no exact order
Top 3 Pooraka, PAOC and Golden Grove
4th - 6th Fitzroy Salisbury Greenacres
7th and 8th North Haven and Adelaide Lutheran
Relegation CBC and Salisbury West

Bring on 09 I'm pumped

Hey Footy Follower good to see u back & are u still involved with Pooraka in '09?
As u were coaching in '08 werent u? If so why arent u going around again mate as u boys had a great 1st half in '08 & didnt look like anyone would get near u at the half way mark? Good luck to M.Watt's though & be warey of the Bulls!

[Lightning McQueen]

ah ok so why dont you play in the APFL or have you played out here before?
Who are the blokes you know in APFL?

That would give my identity away immediately if I named who I knew out there. No, I've never played in the APFL, I've only ever played for two clubs, both in the SAAFL.

Hey Lightining which other SAAFL club did u play for then before Smithfeild? Under your profile it says Tantanoola as your club is this a mistake or have u played MSEFL before, if so what years as i have played down in that league also?

I had Ovingham on there but it mysteriously dropped off, not that I played there, I just liked the name "Tantanoola".

[Lightning McQueen]

Yeah, the SW placement I didn't really have a clue about. I don't know what the div 4 standard is like but they were pretty average this year and I can't see too many of them hanging around.

They knocked you guys off though, I reckon they'll get some players back this year with no Francis, I hear Broady's not coaching at United so they might get a couple back from there. I heard all of the Westies team got a minimum payment last season, win, lose or draw, pretty crap way to try & get the best out of players if they are going to get the same amount whatever the result.

so your saying at smithfield if theres not a win incentive guys wont put in 100%??? would of thought anyone who plays sport plays to win regardless the result. yeah a small few might like that added incentive but seems by that comment that your players wont have a dip unless theres a carrot dangling for the win?

Smithfield only have "best player" incentives, IMO, if you're going to fork out "x" amount per game for a whole team, I would think that it would be be better to have a higher win payment and decrease the lose payment. Some players can just go through the motions rather than dig deep late in the game knowing they are going to get the same reward at the end of it.

Let's face it, money talks and an extra $30 or $40 for the night ahead can certainly make players find a little extra.

[The Big Shrek]

Yeah, the SW placement I didn't really have a clue about. I don't know what the div 4 standard is like but they were pretty average this year and I can't see too many of them hanging around.

They knocked you guys off though, I reckon they'll get some players back this year with no Francis, I hear Broady's not coaching at United so they might get a couple back from there. I heard all of the Westies team got a minimum payment last season, win, lose or draw, pretty crap way to try & get the best out of players if they are going to get the same amount whatever the result.

so your saying at smithfield if theres not a win incentive guys wont put in 100%??? would of thought anyone who plays sport plays to win regardless the result. yeah a small few might like that added incentive but seems by that comment that your players wont have a dip unless theres a carrot dangling for the win?

Smithfield only have "best player" incentives, IMO, if you're going to fork out "x" amount per game for a whole team, I would think that it would be be better to have a higher win payment and decrease the lose payment. Some players can just go through the motions rather than dig deep late in the game knowing they are going to get the same reward at the end of it.

Let's face it, money talks and an extra $30 or $40 for the night ahead can certainly make players find a little extra.

I have to disagree LM. We've had both systems at Kilburn and when we had a higher payment per win I never tried harder than with a flat payment. I think it's a very bad sign that the game is on the line and you are thinking about money. That just shows a lack of desire to win.

[Iron Fist]

They knocked you guys off though, I reckon they'll get some players back this year with no Francis, I hear Broady's not coaching at United so they might get a couple back from there. I heard all of the Westies team got a minimum payment last season, win, lose or draw, pretty crap way to try & get the best out of players if they are going to get the same amount whatever the result.

so your saying at smithfield if theres not a win incentive guys wont put in 100%??? would of thought anyone who plays sport plays to win regardless the result. yeah a small few might like that added incentive but seems by that comment that your players wont have a dip unless theres a carrot dangling for the win?

Smithfield only have "best player" incentives, IMO, if you're going to fork out "x" amount per game for a whole team, I would think that it would be be better to have a higher win payment and decrease the lose payment. Some players can just go through the motions rather than dig deep late in the game knowing they are going to get the same reward at the end of it.

Let's face it, money talks and an extra $30 or $40 for the night ahead can certainly make players find a little extra.

I have to disagree LM. We've had both systems at Kilburn and when we had a higher payment per win I never tried harder than with a flat payment. I think it's a very bad sign that the game is on the line and you are thinking about money. That just shows a lack of desire to win.

i agree with shrek
no way would you drop off in the alst quarter when the games on the line cause you knew you were getting ya match payment either way!!!

[piccachu]

i agree with shrek
no way would you drop off in the alst quarter when the games on the line cause you knew you were getting ya match payment either way!!!

im with you fisty, you definatly wouldnt be thinking about the coin going in your pocket when the ball game is on the line.
but on the other hand i like the idea of getting more money for when you win than you do for a loosing game, just for the fact that your rewarding the teams good work and all players would be lying if they didnt like being rewarded after working there knackers off and getting there side across the line at the final siron

[Lightning McQueen]

They are all opinions, I just think there are better ways than flat rates, I do agree that coin shouldn't determine effort, I'm sure it happens though, especially where injuries are concerned. If the game is on the line and you have a bit of a niggle, some players might shirk the issue to enable their availability the following week to keep the extra cash coming in.

I'd feel like I've ripped the club off if I got paid and we got drubbed when the week before we knocked off a quality side and got the same rewards.

[Lightning McQueen]

i agree with shrek
no way would you drop off in the alst quarter when the games on the line cause you knew you were getting ya match payment either way!!!

im with you fisty, you definatly wouldnt be thinking about the coin going in your pocket when the ball game is on the line.
but on the other hand i like the idea of getting more money for when you win than you do for a loosing game, just for the fact that your rewarding the teams good work and all players would be lying if they didnt like being rewarded after working there knackers off and getting there side across the line at the final siron

You are both pretty much referring to your own characteristics, you both seem like pretty passionate club people who would battle it out til the end, what you said at the end of your post hits the nail on the head piccachu, a little extra reward goes a long way for working your knackers off to get over the line.

Any match payments or awards I ever received ALWAYS went back over the bar that night.

[Port boy]

all good points but i think you should only get the coin for a win.
Our boys get beer tickets for a win and nothing for a loss, this seems to work well, a few free beers to kick start a sat night.