paralowie - another 1 bites the dust........

[LMA]

It's all about how close you are, most of us play amateur league at a club, more so in the lower grades, either from family and friends connections or that the club being local to your area. Same goes for supporters, I couldn't see a local supporter from Paralowie travelling 15km every home game or vice versa with Smithfield.

Well if most of the blokes want to continue playing then travel may be inevitable....

Im sure there's a few clubs to go to near Smithfield and Paralowie respectively. Anyway flogging a dead horse here about a possible merger, it's never gonna happen, not this year and not those two clubs either

[Dogmatic]

I think the SAAFL should allow current players from Smithfield and Paralowie be able to join other clubs without attracting any points.
It is better than players being lost to the game.

[Footy_Rulz]

I agree Dogmatic, there would be somewhere over 100+ players between the two clubs that need to find new homes, the obvious clubs that would benefit would have to be Salisbury, Salisbury West, Brahma Lodge, Eastern Park and Elizabeth

[morell]

Well, not sure what to believe now...

carey, you are a quality poster but everyone I have spoken to have categorically refuted the claims made in this thread.

Paralowie are still alive and kicking, have not folded, but are rather in some financial strife which they are doing their darndest to get out of.

Mitchell Park will not be given the option of staying in Div 6, even if Paralowie decide not to field a side in 2011. If that happens Div 6 will have a bye round...

[beeroclock]

It is very sad to see a club fold. Club closures will increase due to further demands on family committments and the battle for people to survive day by day. Money rules and there is no way around it. Too many clubs in the Northern areas and a lack of committed players due to other pressures will only escalate the problem. It's called natural attrition. Like the supermarket dilema's,only the strong will survive. If you want your club to be a survivor there is only one way to do it. Sponsorship long term and a quality committee that dont rip you off. Senior coaching group that involve the future ( YOUR JUNIORS ). You want to live to see another day, players need to be rewarded for their efforts. There may be only 2 or 3 div,s with any descent footballers in it within the next 5 years. Sad situation. Good luck to those from Smithy,s and Paralowie.

[zedman]

a bye?..oh dear..

[X Runna]

On player payments, i have never been paid to play nor been worthy of any payments, but if a club pays players do they have to declare this payment? how many players would then declare thier payment as income? or do they even need to? I used to work a second job on the weekends and had to pay $0.30 in the dollar i think it was or there abouts, this surely would not be any different for a footballer? If they do have to claim and pay tax, are they then able to claim expenses ie boots, rego, travel??

I think if they declare it by a "hobby form' they can earn up to $3K before it's tax deductable and can then claim boots but not travel or rego expenses.[/quote]

It's cash in hand, no need to claim it. I thought it was only declared a second income if it goes striaght into ur bank account?[/quote]

I think it's a second income regardless of how it's paid. Whether or not it is "declared" is another issue...[/quote]

It a hobby so dont have to declare it and it doesnt matter how much u earn! (unless ur an afl player), wen joe hachem won his 1st tournment for $1m he didnt have to declare it.[/quote]
You obviously have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA, until you do - I suggest you speak with NO AUTHORITY

[Q.]

I think the SAAFL should allow current players from Smithfield and Paralowie be able to join other clubs without attracting any points.
It is better than players being lost to the game.

Disagree. If the majority go to one club, that club is already at an advantage. To make them zero point players would significantly disadvantage the other teams in the division.

[AKA]

Sad day for Paralowie, I played a few years out there and there has been a number of good footballers come from there. Hope something happens and they remain as a club, Keep fighting Carey

[Demon Juke]

I agree Dogmatic, there would be somewhere over 100+ players between the two clubs that need to find new homes, the obvious clubs that would benefit would have to be Salisbury, Salisbury West, Brahma Lodge, Eastern Park and Elizabeth

If there is 100 players at the 2 clubs, I would say they would still be in the league.

[Bold Strategy]

On player payments, i have never been paid to play nor been worthy of any payments, but if a club pays players do they have to declare this payment? how many players would then declare thier payment as income? or do they even need to? I used to work a second job on the weekends and had to pay $0.30 in the dollar i think it was or there abouts, this surely would not be any different for a footballer? If they do have to claim and pay tax, are they then able to claim expenses ie boots, rego, travel??

I think if they declare it by a "hobby form' they can earn up to $3K before it's tax deductable and can then claim boots but not travel or rego expenses.

It's cash in hand, no need to claim it. I thought it was only declared a second income if it goes striaght into ur bank account?[/quote]

I think it's a second income regardless of how it's paid. Whether or not it is "declared" is another issue...[/quote]

It a hobby so dont have to declare it and it doesnt matter how much u earn! (unless ur an afl player), wen joe hachem won his 1st tournment for $1m he didnt have to declare it.[/quote]
You obviously have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA, until you do - I suggest you speak with NO AUTHORITY[/quote]


Income from a hobby is not assessable and not subject to tax. A hobby is a leisure activity that is not undertaken in a commercial manner and does not constitute a business http://www.rurallaw.org.au/handbook/xml/ch06s32s04.php
im studying commerce/finance done a course done taxation law , what authority do u have? i would love to know but i doubt u will reply

[Demon Juke]

a bye?..oh dear..

Easier for the league to do that, then try organise the lower grades again. But we (clubs) pay there wages. don't we?

[mickey]

It a hobby so dont have to declare it and it doesnt matter how much u earn! (unless ur an afl player), wen joe hachem won his 1st tournment for $1m he didnt have to declare it.

Everytime an Australian poker player wins money playing in a poker tournament in the USA they pay 30% tax to the Government of the United States of America

[morell]

Well, not sure what to believe now...

carey, you are a quality poster but everyone I have spoken to have categorically refuted the claims made in this thread.

Paralowie are still alive and kicking, have not folded, but are rather in some financial strife which they are doing their darndest to get out of.

Mitchell Park will not be given the option of staying in Div 6, even if Paralowie decide not to field a side in 2011. If that happens Div 6 will have a bye round...

Not sure Carey would miss the mark by that much. I'm sure he would have got it from the correct source.

I agree mate but the people I spoke to are of a high quality as well...

[Footy_Rulz]

I agree Dogmatic, there would be somewhere over 100+ players between the two clubs that need to find new homes, the obvious clubs that would benefit would have to be Salisbury, Salisbury West, Brahma Lodge, Eastern Park and Elizabeth

If there is 100 players at the 2 clubs, I would say they would still be in the league.

Paralowie had a good 60-70 players last year, the reason why they are folding is because of bad debt. Smithfield folded because they had players but they never payed fees. I think they could easily have 30-40 players.

[Demon Juke]

I agree Dogmatic, there would be somewhere over 100+ players between the two clubs that need to find new homes, the obvious clubs that would benefit would have to be Salisbury, Salisbury West, Brahma Lodge, Eastern Park and Elizabeth

If there is 100 players at the 2 clubs, I would say they would still be in the league.

Paralowie had a good 60-70 players last year, the reason why they are folding is because of bad debt. Smithfield folded because they had players but they never payed fees. I think they could easily have 30-40 players.

Paralowie folding is bad debt, 60-70 players last year, not sure about this year and Smithfield just had a bare 40 players last year. They did really well to put a "b" grade side on the park every week with about 15-18 players playing in the "b" grade side. Not sure on the fees thing put they needed another 15 to 20 players to survive.

[BenchedEagle]

Big question is. Where are all their players gonna go? All their 2010 A graders will now be worth points at another club if i understand it correctly. Maybe a few will have to be content playing B grade somewhere for a year

[Q.]

Big question is. Where are all their players gonna go? All their 2010 A graders will now be worth points at another club if i understand it correctly. Maybe a few will have to be content playing B grade somewhere for a year

A number of A Graders left already. I think you'll find most of the lads still around from last season would be worth zero anyway.

[Footy_Rulz]

which are the two clubs geographically closest to each of the potentially folding clubs? who would want the players most?

Smithfield = Elizabeth, Eastern Park and Angle Vale
Paralowie = Salisbury North, Salisbury West, North Pines

[Roaring Lion!]

Carey sorry to hear bout Paralowie as sad situation & also to Lightening Mc Queen with Smithfield.

Smithfield is unfortunate to have 2 x Ex Coaches moving on over the last few years take a truck load of players & juniors with them on both occasions, so wonder if they regret now not giving one of the Ex Coach's the opportunty as it seems to have come back to bite them.....
Had some great battle against them so will be missed.

Paralowie could there be any chance of teaming up with North Pines this season as they have only had 1 x Side in recent years & wearing the North Pines guernsy for home games & Paralowie guernsy for away games? That way the facilites are close to home for them too?
I know a few of the boys out there so sad week all round.

Ouch Carey 199 games at 1 x Club great achievement.