SAAFL Division 2 2013

[piccachu]

Molitor

[Cohiba]

SMOSH pay bucketloads.

You might be right .....but it wouldn't be half of what you get surely........ but you did get it right when you said "pay"..

[Cohiba]

Trent Hancock would be on more than that a game if he played

We give him that kind of money not to play....

[The Big Shrek]

SMOSH pay bucketloads.

You might be right .....but it wouldn't be half of what you get surely........

Pie and a can of coke to share between two at SMOSHland?

[piccachu]

You might be right .....but it wouldn't be half of what you get surely........

Pie and a can of coke to share between two at SMOSHland?

A pie and a coke and your still over paid

[Cohiba]

Yep I know of 4-5 guys down there on 400-500 a week. Won't mention any names but their on ball brigade is a start. Hint hint. However bit rich coming from someone from Kilburn

How good are we then... Were only tenants of West Lakes Sports Club...we operate for only for only 6 months of the year.. we run 5 senior sides and a full compliment of juniors..... and were playing in Div 2......

Unlike Ramblers...... who operate their own clubrooms, sell advertising, and run a car-park with a food concession. The hardships you have at Big Al's oh dear...

[Bulls forever]

Wouldn't of thought so, has lost too much cattle over the past couple of years, to the extent where a new era dawns at the MFC. I would have thought that what they have achieved over the past 12 years, most clubs would be pretty proud of. Went down around 96-97 from Div 1 to Div 2 and the majority of A Grade walked. That saw them go down year after year to Div 5. Then the junior program of MFC saw a particular good group of players come through and the climb continued all the way to Div 1, where unfortunately they only lasted a year, despite I think winning 6 games. Have been back in Div 2 for 3 years I think, but gradually that strong junior group have gotten old, injured, chased money elsewhere and hence the struggles this year. There are not too many players / clubman who have put what Jol's has into a single club. To think that MFC have achieved all this with a budget probably 1/4 of most amateur clubs is admirable and reflects well on the structure of the club.
There is talk of the return of a few talented senior players next year to help the club out, so time will tell, but with the U18's currently top, the next group of juniors is coming through. If that keeps the club in Div 2 / 3, then the club will be stronger for it.

There are more than a few clubs that have ridden that "rollercoaster" and there is no doubting the contribution that Jolly has made on and off the field... Great Club Man. But I agree with others.. Returning players, good crop of Junior coming through, relegation to an "easier" comp to rebuild the side.....it may be time to consider a clean sweep....There is no disrespect to Jolly.....just a changing of the guard..... As for your "budget" you may be in the know....but I think "most" of those "other" Amateur Clubs might just question your claim of being at the bottom end of the financial ladder so to speak. If the club's financial statement a matter of public record it would simple enough validate the claim....

Ah, the old money thing hey, unfortunately for you I am in the know, since Vassal and Gunning left, Vas to play league footy and Gunning doing the money merry go round as everyone knows, they pay winning games. If you did your homework you would see that they have had no imports that demand a quid, there is a reason for this if you think long and hard about it. Their absolute core group of players, ie Richards, Stanton, Hoffs are MFC juniors. The players that left Williams, Jarman x 2, Mitchell x 2, Vanders, Davey were all MFC juniors. You obviously know nothing about the equal oldest club in SA (TTG is the other) and the structure they have through their sporting club. As you brought this up, I have absolute no doubt that MFC is the lowest paying club in the top 2 divisions and you could probably throw in a couple of other divisions as well. I know that GG certainly pay more than MFC. If you got your hands on the financial statement of the Modbury Sporting Club and the MFC, which incidently are on public record you could work it out yourself. If you don't want to do the miles, then you have no option but to theorise with your beliefs.

You brought up rebuild, I never mentioned it, the simple fact is they don't have the players (or money) to stay in Div 2, next year will tell whether they have the next group to stay in Div 3.

The absolute most important thing is the MFC continues to survive and hopefully thrive, sport in the north east would be poorer without them, or any of the other clubs up this way. There is healthy rivalry, but also healthy respect.

If you read it again sunshine you will see that I said "you may well be in know".....and as you seem to suggest you are.... well hooray for you and thanks for clearing that up.....Nothing unfortunate about that......
Sunshine, this argument has gone from you deciding a club legends association with MFC should end, based on your extensive knowledge of the club no doubt, to a anonymous poster calling names - good argument sport, you should be in politics.

Tell me....on what basis have you no doubt that you are the lowest paying club in Divs 1 and 2 and beyond.
Well, let me think, if you pay winning games, and you have won 1, then I guess you are not getting paid. I will type slower if you have trouble keeping up. Simply, since gunning, they have not paid anything for imports, nothing, zilch, sfa, can you name another club in the top two divisions that can say this - you probably can since you know everything about every club, but it is very unlikely. Oh, have you association with a club, or do you just drink Chardonnay on Coopers Hill or in the car park at AAMI.

Also was I meant to know about the history of the MFC (and TTG)...more to point.... do I care.....but thanks for the history lesson I didn't ask for.... .
Again, you chose to say a club should end the coaching career of a club legend, based on what, your intricate knowledge of the club, or a premiership table.
As for rebuilding... usually when senior players return and juniors push through for senior selection particularly in light of the fact that relegation is all but a certainty... people may surmise that could be a club re building a side ..... you don't see it that way.....there is no right or wrong ..so what's your point... I have said nothing disrespectful about the MFC or anyone there....but if you want to be superior about it and gives you a "stiffy"....fill your boots laddie and enjoy.....

You disrespect a club legend, you disrespect a club. Move on.

[Cohiba]

Sunshine, this argument has gone from you deciding a club legends association with MFC should end, based on your extensive knowledge of the club no doubt, to a anonymous poster calling names - good argument sport, you should be in politics.

Tell me....on what basis have you no doubt that you are the lowest paying club in Divs 1 and 2 and beyond.

Well, let me think, if you pay winning games, and you have won 1, then I guess you are not getting paid. I will type slower if you have trouble keeping up. Simply, since gunning, they have not paid anything for imports, nothing, zilch, sfa, can you name another club in the top two divisions that can say this - you probably can since you know everything about every club, but it is very unlikely. Oh, have you association with a club, or do you just drink Chardonnay on Coopers Hill or in the car park at AAMI.

Again, you chose to say a club should end the coaching career of a club legend, based on what, your intricate knowledge of the club, or a premiership table.

As for rebuilding... usually when senior players return and juniors push through for senior selection particularly in light of the fact that relegation is all but a certainty... people may surmise that could be a club re building a side ..... you don't see it that way.....there is no right or wrong ..so what's your point... I have said nothing disrespectful about the MFC or anyone there....

You disrespect a club legend, you disrespect a club. Move on.

Firstly you shouldn't transpose your responses within some else's post.....it just bad manners. Also if it makes you happy, type as slow as you want...

So if I am to understand the success of your club is dependent on the bank balance of the club. Never thought MFC was in such dire trouble financially.... Because you have stopped paying players the Club is broke?....... where and with whom do you think the problems lay?....not enough raffles perhaps?

Also I never said to get rid of the coach..... your comment on the return of senior players and promoting your juniors next year prompted my comment that a change of coach may be a consideration. Hardly disrespectful to the man or the club....only to you it seems.

I think you would like to drink Chardonnay....well at least it sounds like that.....Jack's for me and yes I am affiliated to a club...see if you can figure it out....

You are right about one thing....time to move on....so no prizes for second I'm afraid grasshopper.... stick to your barbie dolls, drink your milk, and be good to your coach whoever they may be.....Go the Hawks........here end-eth the lesson... bye...

[turbo182]

Molitor

Molitor's an old scholar who just wants to play with his mates. Why anyone would wanna be mates with Sam White I've got no idea.

If we had more money to pay these sorts of blokes we would; they're all good Club-men who would never go anywhere (someone already mentioned Cibba and Porps). Porplycia especially has been offered plenty of coin to go up the road or go country and has never entertained the idea. Although the story goes he always makes some poor Coach buy him a meal first before giving him the bad news. Either way, we don't get bar takings which sucks. I reckon I spent more over the bar in the month of April then the WLSC gave us in Dividends last year.

Another crucial game for us this week - SHOC's reportedly at full strength, and coming off a good couple of weeks. Will need to Play bloody well to beat them at the bay.

[Sass!]

Re: Tim Davey, he is in the UK this year playing cricket. We have also had a couple of other key players head to Europe to broaden there horizens for the season... So while plenty of MFC boys are kicking goals and racking up stats, unfortunately for us its on the other side of the world..

As for being one of the smallest budgets in the SAAFL for Div 1 and 2, who really knows. its not really an excuse as we have never been a big spender. We obviously dont pay to just anyone to attract players as we have found that alot of the guys who shop themselves around (and we can afford) arent even at the quality of your top 5 guys, so how do you justify paying big bucks to an average footballer when your club stalwarts who have played 100-150 senior games and 100 plus junior games are just getting the standard amount for win/ loss. We couldnt possibly do that.. But as has been said, we rely on our juniors and the crop coming through at the moment are an exciting prospect. If we can get a few boys back that have left the nest in recent years then things will certainly look up in 2014. Despite the bottom placed A grade, the vibe around the club still been great and the closeness of the playing group is still as noticeable as ever. Guys that have come from other clubs have been quick to comment on the atmosphere which is what we rely on to attract and keep players. To go with it, the B's, C's and D's are all top five with the under 18's sitting top so there is still plenty to be positive about in 2013.

[Cohiba]

Re: Tim Davey, he is in the UK this year playing cricket. We have also had a couple of other key players head to Europe to broaden there horizens for the season... So while plenty of MFC boys are kicking goals and racking up stats, unfortunately for us its on the other side of the world..

As for being one of the smallest budgets in the SAAFL for Div 1 and 2, who really knows. its not really an excuse as we have never been a big spender. We obviously dont pay to just anyone to attract players as we have found that alot of the guys who shop themselves around (and we can afford) arent even at the quality of your top 5 guys, so how do you justify paying big bucks to an average footballer when your club stalwarts who have played 100-150 senior games and 100 plus junior games are just getting the standard amount for win/ loss. We couldnt possibly do that.. But as has been said, we rely on our juniors and the crop coming through at the moment are an exciting prospect. If we can get a few boys back that have left the nest in recent years then things will certainly look up in 2014. Despite the bottom placed A grade, the vibe around the club still been great and the closeness of the playing group is still as noticeable as ever. Guys that have come from other clubs have been quick to comment on the atmosphere which is what we rely on to attract and keep players. To go with it, the B's, C's and D's are all top five with the under 18's sitting top so there is still plenty to be positive about in 2013.

Good post Sass.....our Club is not so dissimilar as yours in its philosophy involving recruits and re-numeration. Turbo gives a pretty good insight.

[Fricky]

I hear it was draw between Walkies and Kilburn

[bloods08]

Flinders Park beat Gepps by 14 points. Top 5 set. Was a pretty ordinary game of footy.

[The Big Shrek]

Pretty decent game of footy at Kilburn. Exciting finish. A Graham BOG. Heintze to cuddle his dog.

[Rat Catcher]

A Graham BOG.

don't shoot the messenger but apparently good under pressure but borne out of fear.

[The Big Shrek]

A Graham BOG.

don't shoot the messenger but apparently good under pressure but borne out of fear.

Mate what are you on about you're cooked

[Footy Chick]

That's what we all usually say about your posts on a Saturday night

[Fricky]

SHOC giving SMOSH a touch up has made the relegation battle a tight one. Only 1 point separating 6th to 9th now. Two massive games next weekend - Walkies v SHOC and Gepps v Kilburn

[bloods08]

SHOC giving SMOSH a touch up has made the relegation battle a tight one. Only 1 point separating 6th to 9th now. Two massive games next weekend - Walkies v SHOC and Gepps v Kilburn

The way Geppies are playing at the moment we are a lock to go down. Sad but true.

[SATCHEL]

Bit of a disspoitning result for my lads inthe 2's on Saturday. To be right with PAOC for the first half was a gfreat effort but coming out of the main break PA put the foot down. There ruckmen (sorry cant remember his number or name) completely dominated and their onballers adjusted brilliantly. 5 goals in 4.5 mins was too hard to pull back. We managed to reign it in a little when they managed to kick away again. To be down by a decent margin and then lose by 4 kicks was better than what it could have been with the way they went about it in the 3rd. Still for us we are improving compared to last year. Normally the 2's last year they were getting done by 10-20 goals. On average this year its been roughly 5-6 goals with not being able to stay in touch with the higher sides. To PA credit they were very good through the middle and rebounded extremely well off half back. Stop that run and carry it should hold them back. Modbury beating Pt Dist was unexpected. Good result for Modbury though. Smosh over SHOC was very much a surprise. Anyone able to go throught that. SHOC were good against us and have been most of this year but it looks like SMOSH has found a gear. We only went down to SMOSH by 11 pts a couple weeks ago. For me Walkerville will still be the team to beat. I can only see Flinders Park giving them a close run. The top 4 looks set to me. The only changes could be 5th and 6th. With the struggles Modbury have had this year it would be good to see their b grade make the finals. For us it will now be about consistant effort to get some reward. Should be an interesting last part of the year.