Improving Amateur League

[NO-MERCY]

I would love everyones thought on improving our Amateur League as i believe the Southern League are ahead of us at present.
Maybe Mark Shadiac will take notice of it & work tirelessly to reinstate the Amateurs at no.1, i'm not holding my breath!

[The Big Shrek]

How does the goernance structure of the league work? What would it take to get someone (i.e. No Mercy) on the board? Does each club have a vote and how often are positions up for grabs?

[aceman]

How does the goernance structure of the league work? What would it take to get someone (i.e. No Mercy) on the board? Does each club have a vote and how often are positions up for grabs?

A person needs to be nominated & seconded as per normal, voting is carried out at the AGM and all clubs vote. Some serious lobbying needs to be done with club reps beforehand setting them straight about your thoughts/theories and what you think you can do for the total benefit of the league.

[The Big Shrek]

When's the AGM? Let's get No Mercy on there to crack some heads!

Better still, let's call a vote of no confidence in the board or get a special gm or something.

[aceman]

When's the AGM? Let's get No Mercy on there to crack some heads!

Better still, let's call a vote of no confidence in the board or get a special gm or something.

AGM is normally held in Feb so you've got time to get those wheels in motion

[Dogwatcher]

NM,

You've got an axe to grind obviously, so,

A) What's your agenda in improving the SAAFL?

B) If you're in power, what would you do to improve it?

Give us something other than just "anyone could do a better job than those people running it now".
Easy to criticise from the outside...

[GFP]

I would love everyones thought on improving our Amateur League as i believe the Southern League are ahead of us at present.
Maybe Mark Shadiac will take notice of it & work tirelessly to reinstate the Amateurs at no.1, i'm not holding my breath!

In what way is the SFL ahead of the Amateur League?
The amateur U23 team smash the SFL in the state games every year and the SFL is an open team.

[Pag]

I think NM is talking about off-field, on-field the SAAFL will smash every country league.

[GFP]

I think NM is talking about off-field, on-field the SAAFL will smash every country league.

In what way is the SFL ahead off-field then?

[heater31]

I think NM is talking about off-field, on-field the SAAFL will smash every country league.

off field SAAFL is a disgrace. The memeber clubs pay countless dollars each year and see absolutely nothing in return.

At least the SFL prelim I attended 2 weeks ago I could still get a feed of food and a cold beer/soft drink at half time of the A grade. going by the reports of Saturday they couldn't organise a pi1s up in a brewery

However both seem to lack organisational skills in getting adequate security to the grounds and police it properly

[mypaddock]

Why don't they get some successful businessmen on the board who have actually got an idea of how to run a business?? What is Shadiacs background/experience??

[old moz]

reading these forums it seems there are 3 main things that upset people.[ 1 ] the website, this apparently is the server,so you would think it wouldn't be too difficult to put right. [2] the budget v sportsbeat, should be easy to resolve if people put aside their egos and worked together to produce something really good. [3] the 'catering' at the finals venues that were under the control of the SAAFL, let the clubs involved do it . have not seen any complaints about the running of the league, the standard of games is good. [ according to each division ] you can walk up to any amateur game and see a good match at no cost. country leagues charge $6-$7 to get in to see a game that is D3 [D2 ,if you really get lucky ] standard. SAAFL do a lot of things right, but need to fix up the "minor' things that pi55 people off

[Keepitreal]

reading these forums it seems there are 3 main things that upset people.[ 1 ] the website, this apparently is the server,so you would think it wouldn't be too difficult to put right. [2] the budget v sportsbeat, should be easy to resolve if people put aside their egos and worked together to produce something really good. [3] the 'catering' at the finals venues that were under the control of the SAAFL, let the clubs involved do it . have not seen any complaints about the running of the league, the standard of games is good. [ according to each division ] you can walk up to any amateur game and see a good match at no cost. country leagues charge $6-$7 to get in to see a game that is D3 [D2 ,if you really get lucky ] standard. SAAFL do a lot of things right, but need to fix up the "minor' things that pi55 people off

Club Umpires is also a major issue with blatant bias to home teams and association medal votes (makes a farce of who wins), champion club voting system, just to mention a few.

[heater31]

moz here's one that sh1ts me off no end concerning the off field operations. The inconsistency of the Tribunal. 2 blokes from Portland getting rubbed out for a trivial offence for example. Plus preferential treatment of some clubs players in the higher divisions because they are in the state squad etc. I'm sure that some Port Adelaide based clubs have more to add if they wish

[Punk Rooster]

the League needs to be more club friendly- the calls required per side are astronomical, no wonder some clubs choose to field 1 team.

Clubs have a finite income, & to for the SAAFL to try & grab as much of that income is not on- SAAFL should be trying to deliver on numbers/representation, as well as their bottom line.

[aceman]

reading these forums it seems there are 3 main things that upset people.[ 1 ] the website, this apparently is the server,so you would think it wouldn't be too difficult to put right. [2] the budget v sportsbeat, should be easy to resolve if people put aside their egos and worked together to produce something really good. [3] the 'catering' at the finals venues that were under the control of the SAAFL, let the clubs involved do it . have not seen any complaints about the running of the league, the standard of games is good. [ according to each division ] you can walk up to any amateur game and see a good match at no cost. country leagues charge $6-$7 to get in to see a game that is D3 [D2 ,if you really get lucky ] standard. SAAFL do a lot of things right, but need to fix up the "minor' things that pi55 people off

Club Umpires is also a major issue with blatant bias to home teams and association medal votes (makes a farce of who wins), champion club voting system, just to mention a few.

You're going to have to come up with something better than that. No club umps, no game, they just can't pull umps out of a hat. They need to look at a roster of umpires within their own areas somehow, not easy which ever way you look at it!

[heater31]

Will address this post here as not to upset the moderator team

Making changes at Tynte street is always hard with Shadiac running the show.
Several of the members on the SAAFL board have been there for quite a while.
The new members of the Executive are hand picked mates of Shadiac I believe.
This is where change need to occur and can only be done at AGM with several Executive members up for re election this year

They don't care much about clubs when it comes to costs.

Correction there Estate, I drove past the Tynte street headquarters this morning and I see that it is up for lease/sale? Obviously they have made the move to Thebby Oval. With regards to the Costs its not hard to see that they only care about their bottom line.

I don't believe that we should be playing Grand Finals at League grounds. They should be at SAAFL grounds. I know that not all clubs have fences but lower grade grand finals could be played at these grounds thus putting funds in clubs and not the same clubs getting finals every year.

I also believe that clubs with fences should pay for the right to host a final and not getting a free ride every week of the finals.

Why should they be at SAAFL grounds??? some have sub-standard facilities not fit for hosting finals. Play the showcase game of the year at the best available ground.

Introducing a U/19 comp only deletes the player pool even further this will only benefit College sides as a defacto intercollegiate program. Any U/19 coming player coming out of the SANFL would be playing in a SAAFL B Grade side at the minimum.

I agree absolutely ridiculous that the SANFL scrap theirs then the SAAFL will bring it in. Shadiac is making a stealth take over of the junior football leagues in the Adelaide metro area. Would be much better off to initiate a merger of the operations and the SAAFL setting up a junior operations arm of the league but that has too much vision.

The lack of open age state football is another problem. Too many average players are now earning a state jumper. It is a slap in the face to all the former state players that had to work their butt off to represent the state.
If you want to be the best in the league you should be playing in the top grade not getting a free ride because of your age.

IIRC its not the SAAFL's fault for that concept. Either WA or Vic can receive funding from a government department for the team provided its age restricted. But then again if it was Open age they would be embarrased year in year out with favoritism selections and reputation.

Now is the time for change. I believe that it is now or never. We can say what we like in thses forums or actually do something about it. It is up to us and our club delegates to push the changes.

All well and good to talk about it on here. People need to follow it up with actions and nominations for the positions up for grabs

[GFP]

moz here's one that sh1ts me off no end concerning the off field operations. The inconsistency of the Tribunal. 2 blokes from Portland getting rubbed out for a trivial offence for example. Plus preferential treatment of some clubs players in the higher divisions because they are in the state squad etc. I'm sure that some Port Adelaide based clubs have more to add if they wish

Totally agree that the tribunal has to be looked at, very unprofessional outfit. From what i've heard they make up their minds before proceedings even take place.

[NO-MERCY]

NM,

You've got an axe to grind obviously, so,

A) What's your agenda in improving the SAAFL?

B) If you're in power, what would you do to improve it?

Give us something other than just "anyone could do a better job than those people running it now".
Easy to criticise from the outside...

The Dog, yes i have my axe sharpened & I like many others are sick to death of the unproffessionalism shown by the Amateur League, take a look at what some of the die hard supporters say in their posts, your not just hearing it from me.
I love my footy & i like many others like to see a great game of Amateur Football, with that while at the football theirs nothing better than some hot food & cold beer, tell me how the f--- do you run out of hot food & cold beer before half time of the most important game of the year the GF? alot of hot food ran out before the As started to be honest, also you payed $5 bucks last year, this year $8.
There are people who want to help the Amateur League improve in alot of areas "catering" for example, experienced caterers offering help that are told no we're all right & under control- when your not.
The Budgets another one, a great idea the league was asked to work in conjunction with but no was the responce, what a great read & promotion for our League, we all love it except a couple of the SAAFL hyreichy.Why? I thought they ( Hyreichy ) were positioned to promote our League & run it as proffessional as possible. Give the supporters something instead of taking all the time, the League does the same to the clubs.
I could go on & on Dogger but if you read some of the other posts on hear you'll see we havn't had our heads buried in the sand like some people have!

[barbs]

I find it interesting that the same people keep pumping up the budget. Fantastic for amount of input but I question the quality. After reading it often the accuracy seemed a bit ordinary and often it seemed like the main writer used words he didn't know the meaning of. Fanatstic effort to get it going but some people on here seem to be running their own agendas re the budget and the league. Maybe I've read it wrong but something doesn't add up.