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The Points System for SAAFL

PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 4:22 pm
by aceman
I think you'll find the "points system" as used now by most leagues in place of the Salary Cap may well be implimented into the SAAFL next season.
Just talking to a couple of influential people leads me to believe it's only a matter of time before clubs are asked to give it serious consideration for 2010.
It seems the allocated points will reduce as the divisions go down from Div1 to Div 7 but I think there's still a bit of tweeking to be done with that.

Re: The Points System for SAAFL

PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 4:56 pm
by 3Kings
That system would please your lot ace. With 501 junior teams you'd have it all sown up. How would it work for us colege teams with no juniors?

Re: The Points System for SAAFL

PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 5:26 pm
by aceman
3Kings wrote:That system would please your lot ace. With 501 junior teams you'd have it all sown up. How would it work for us colege teams with no juniors?


The first thing to happen would be to teach you how to spell 'college'!
You college guys could all finish up with your own division, with your own rules on the points,that would solve that problem.
I dare say they would investigate that side of the argument, it's not our fault if we've plenty of juniors wanting to play footy and actually it's about 18 teams worth so around 400 kids.

Re: The Points System for SAAFL

PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 5:33 pm
by Lads
aceman wrote:
3Kings wrote:That system would please your lot ace. With 501 junior teams you'd have it all sown up. How would it work for us colege teams with no juniors?


The first thing to happen would be to teach you how to spell 'college'!
You college guys could all finish up with your own division, with your own rules on the points,that would solve that problem.
I dare say they would investigate that side of the argument, it's not our fault if we've plenty of juniors wanting to play footy and acxtually it's about 18 teams worth so around 400 kids.


And maybe he could teach you to spell actually lol

Re: The Points System for SAAFL

PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 5:36 pm
by aceman
Lads wrote:
aceman wrote:
3Kings wrote:That system would please your lot ace. With 501 junior teams you'd have it all sown up. How would it work for us colege teams with no juniors?


The first thing to happen would be to teach you how to spell 'college'!
You college guys could all finish up with your own division, with your own rules on the points,that would solve that problem.
I dare say they would investigate that side of the argument, it's not our fault if we've plenty of juniors wanting to play footy and actually it's about 18 teams worth so around 400 kids.


And maybe he could teach you to spell actually lol



Isn't that always the way heh! What are you on about?

Re: The Points System for SAAFL

PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 5:37 pm
by aceman
Lads wrote:
aceman wrote:
3Kings wrote:That system would please your lot ace. With 501 junior teams you'd have it all sown up. How would it work for us colege teams with no juniors?


The first thing to happen would be to teach you how to spell 'college'!
You college guys could all finish up with your own division, with your own rules on the points,that would solve that problem.
I dare say they would investigate that side of the argument, it's not our fault if we've plenty of juniors wanting to play footy and actually it's about 18 teams worth so around 400 kids.


And maybe he could teach you to spell actually lol

Re: The Points System for SAAFL

PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 5:40 pm
by Lads
aceman wrote:
Lads wrote:
aceman wrote:
3Kings wrote:That system would please your lot ace. With 501 junior teams you'd have it all sown up. How would it work for us colege teams with no juniors?


The first thing to happen would be to teach you how to spell 'college'!
You college guys could all finish up with your own division, with your own rules on the points,that would solve that problem.
I dare say they would investigate that side of the argument, it's not our fault if we've plenty of juniors wanting to play footy and actually it's about 18 teams worth so around 400 kids.


And maybe he could teach you to spell actually lol



Isn't that always the way heh! What are you on about?


I dont know how you did it but nice work now i look like a toss

Re: The Points System for SAAFL

PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 7:34 pm
by 3Kings
Aceman, picking on typos and editing posts to cover your mistakes makes you look silly. Do you follow the old 'if you can't attack the argument, attack the person(or their typing skills)' school of thought?

The points system in the country takes into account populations and the number of juniors in the area. I doubt it would work in the SAAFL. No doubt you are in a hurry to rush it through before the league thinks about it too much.

Re: The Points System for SAAFL

PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 7:41 pm
by aceman
3Kings wrote:Aceman, picking on typos and editing posts to cover your mistakes makes you look silly. Do you follow the old 'if you can't attack the argument, attack the person(or their typing skills)' school of thought?

The points system in the country takes into account populations and the number of juniors in the area. I doubt it would work in the SAAFL. No doubt you are in a hurry to rush it through before the league thinks about it too much.


No, not in the least Kingo,but a good try anyway.
Back to the 'points system' story, not my idea and as far as the comment about being in a hurry, what influence do you think I might have on getting it through? It is used in every league in VIctoria irrespective of their size, and most in SA country,why do think that is? Simply because it's the best way to even competitions out because there are too many loopholes in the salary cap for that to be effective..
Maybe you should think too about the content of your posts!

Re: The Points System for SAAFL

PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 8:30 pm
by BurraBoys
Im not sure i like the idea of it. I Understand the principle but for clubs such as mine, looking to climb the grades, recruiting plays a big role. Good recruiting doesnt always involve big $$$ as has been the case with a few lads we have picked up. Surely some clubs would be in the predicament of not being able to select our best 21 every week. Im open to the idea and good debate over it but skeptical.

My personal view is that all clubs will go through there ups and downs and generally things will cycle. Why not accept and respect that and let things be?

Re: The Points System for SAAFL

PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 8:38 pm
by Rotter
aceman wrote:I think you'll find the "points system" as used now by most leagues in place of the Salary Cap may well be implimented into the SAAFL next season.
Excuse my ignorance but what is the "points system" and what's its function?

Re: The Points System for SAAFL

PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 8:44 pm
by 3Kings
aceman wrote:
3Kings wrote:Aceman, picking on typos and editing posts to cover your mistakes makes you look silly. Do you follow the old 'if you can't attack the argument, attack the person(or their typing skills)' school of thought?

The points system in the country takes into account populations and the number of juniors in the area. I doubt it would work in the SAAFL. No doubt you are in a hurry to rush it through before the league thinks about it too much.


No, not in the least Kingo,but a good try anyway.
Back to the 'points system' story, not my idea and as far as the comment about being in a hurry, what influence do you think I might have on getting it through? It is used in every league in VIctoria irrespective of their size, and most in SA country,why do think that is? Simply because it's the best way to even competitions out because there are too many loopholes in the salary cap for that to be effective..
Maybe you should think too about the content of your posts!


Loopholes galore at Gepps Cross I am sure!

It won't work in the SAAFL precisely because there is nothing remotely close to an even juniors base. I'm not sure if it is in the best interests of the SAAFL to 'even up the competition' as you put it. Division 1 is the elite level of football outside of the SANFL. Don't forget you won't be just evening up the competition within each div, you'll be bringing the divs closer to eachother. And if div 1 gets more points it makes it harder for other clubs to get there.

Re: The Points System for SAAFL

PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 9:25 pm
by heater31
This simply will not work in the SAAFL. They have no junior structure below u/18's. It is a hostile take over attempt of the junior metro footy leagues.

Re: The Points System for SAAFL

PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 9:53 pm
by aceman
heater31 wrote:This simply will not work in the SAAFL. They have no junior structure below u/18's. It is a hostile take over attempt of the junior metro footy leagues.


What are you on about? It has nothing to do with Junior Leagues, it is designed that points are allocated for e.g Div 1 clubs 30 points
Ex AFL/SANFL players =5 points
SANFL Reserves players = 3points
Import (tba) players = 1 point
Anyone that is/was a junior at any given club = 0 points
For each year anyone from the top 2 listed plays at your club, the points are reduced by 1, and so on to be worked out.

Boys, make a note of this subject and put it in your diary. It will happen in the SAAFL probably next year, believe me!

Re: The Points System for SAAFL

PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 11:31 pm
by Pag
I don't think the league needs it. It's a good way to even out the playing field a bit in country leagues, but we already have a system like that in the SAAFL, it's called promotion and relegation.

Re: The Points System for SAAFL

PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 11:41 pm
by blackcat
3Kings wrote:That system would please your lot ace. With 501 junior teams you'd have it all sown up. How would it work for us colege teams with no juniors?


You must go to a pretty good college to learn how to spell like that champ

Re: The Points System for SAAFL

PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 5:50 am
by BurraBoys
Pag wrote:I don't think the league needs it. It's a good way to even out the playing field a bit in country leagues, but we already have a system like that in the SAAFL, it's called promotion and relegation.


Exactly. I also agree with whoever said it will make it alot harder for clubs to take the step between grades.

Re: The Points System for SAAFL

PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:32 am
by 3Kings
blackcat wrote:
3Kings wrote:That system would please your lot ace. With 501 junior teams you'd have it all sown up. How would it work for us colege teams with no juniors?


You must go to a pretty good college to learn how to spell like that champ


Well done hero! I mistyped a word and you're all over it. Would you like me to go over your posts and pick out the mistakes?

How about you go back to whatever factory you work in and plead not to have your job moved overseas.

Re: The Points System for SAAFL

PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:14 am
by Lads
3Kings wrote:
blackcat wrote:
3Kings wrote:That system would please your lot ace. With 501 junior teams you'd have it all sown up. How would it work for us colege teams with no juniors?


You must go to a pretty good college to learn how to spell like that champ


Well done hero! I mistyped a word and you're all over it. Would you like me to go over your posts and pick out the mistakes?

How about you go back to whatever factory you work in and plead not to have your job moved overseas.

=)) =)) =))

Re: The Points System for SAAFL

PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:22 am
by Keepitreal
3Kings wrote:
blackcat wrote:
3Kings wrote:That system would please your lot ace. With 501 junior teams you'd have it all sown up. How would it work for us colege teams with no juniors?


You must go to a pretty good college to learn how to spell like that champ


Well done hero! I mistyped a word and you're all over it. Would you like me to go over your posts and pick out the mistakes?

How about you go back to whatever factory you work in and plead not to have your job moved overseas.


=D> =D>