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Boozehound,

Always read your posts with interest - don't always agree with you opinions, but everyone’s entitled to an opinion.

Just read your latest article in the budget - very disappointed.

Mate, you singled out one bloke in the "B" Grade umpiring fraternity, assassinated his character and have given him bugger all right of reply - based on your one time experience of his umpiring from what I can tell by reading the article.

I'm long retired, but if you're going to continue to play "B" grade where I played a fair bit, your going to have to deal with club umpires on an ongoing basis - they'll be good, they’ll be bad and they'll be in between. If you can't put up with that then you should take your own advice in the article and retire - it will definitely cause you less stress.

RatPack wrote:Boozehound,

Always read your posts with interest - don't always agree with you opinions, but everyone’s entitled to an opinion.

Just read your latest article in the budget - very disappointed.

Mate, you singled out one bloke in the "B" Grade umpiring fraternity, assassinated his character and have given him bugger all right of reply - based on your one time experience of his umpiring from what I can tell by reading the article.

I'm long retired, but if you're going to continue to play "B" grade where I played a fair bit, your going to have to deal with club umpires on an ongoing basis - they'll be good, they’ll be bad and they'll be in between. If you can't put up with that then you should take your own advice in the article and retire - it will definitely cause you less stress.

yes club umpires you can understand in the B's and C's but they must be consitant and not blatent cheats.... i think the main issue is the standard of Div 1 umpires.... from what i have seen this year the standard was far better in div 2!

Footy Smart wrote:

RatPack wrote:Boozehound,

Always read your posts with interest - don't always agree with you opinions, but everyone’s entitled to an opinion.

Just read your latest article in the budget - very disappointed.

Mate, you singled out one bloke in the "B" Grade umpiring fraternity, assassinated his character and have given him bugger all right of reply - based on your one time experience of his umpiring from what I can tell by reading the article.

I'm long retired, but if you're going to continue to play "B" grade where I played a fair bit, your going to have to deal with club umpires on an ongoing basis - they'll be good, they’ll be bad and they'll be in between. If you can't put up with that then you should take your own advice in the article and retire - it will definitely cause you less stress.

yes club umpires you can understand in the B's and C's but they must be consitant and not blatent cheats.... i think the main issue is the standard of Div 1 umpires.... from what i have seen this year the standard was far better in div 2!

You got that bit right, the worst I've seen in Div 1 for many moons.

aceman wrote:

Footy Smart wrote:

RatPack wrote:Boozehound,

Always read your posts with interest - don't always agree with you opinions, but everyone’s entitled to an opinion.

Just read your latest article in the budget - very disappointed.

Mate, you singled out one bloke in the "B" Grade umpiring fraternity, assassinated his character and have given him bugger all right of reply - based on your one time experience of his umpiring from what I can tell by reading the article.

I'm long retired, but if you're going to continue to play "B" grade where I played a fair bit, your going to have to deal with club umpires on an ongoing basis - they'll be good, they’ll be bad and they'll be in between. If you can't put up with that then you should take your own advice in the article and retire - it will definitely cause you less stress.

yes club umpires you can understand in the B's and C's but they must be consitant and not blatent cheats.... i think the main issue is the standard of Div 1 umpires.... from what i have seen this year the standard was far better in div 2!

You got that bit right, the worst I've seen in Div 1 for many moons.

We keep getting stuck with the same 2 blokes and they are terrible one should be in a wheel chair and the other is just plain useless.... but without umpires you dont have a game

RatPack wrote:Boozehound,

Always read your posts with interest - don't always agree with you opinions, but everyone’s entitled to an opinion.

Just read your latest article in the budget - very disappointed.

Mate, you singled out one bloke in the "B" Grade umpiring fraternity, assassinated his character and have given him bugger all right of reply - based on your one time experience of his umpiring from what I can tell by reading the article.

I'm long retired, but if you're going to continue to play "B" grade where I played a fair bit, your going to have to deal with club umpires on an ongoing basis - they'll be good, they’ll be bad and they'll be in between. If you can't put up with that then you should take your own advice in the article and retire - it will definitely cause you less stress.

Agree, we all know B grade umps can be absolute rubbish but have a few beers and get over it. You're not playing for sheep stations.

Talking purely on B grade and club umpires here but on any given week at any game one side will walk off and say the opposition umpire favoured them and is basically a cheat. At the exact same time the club whose umpire it was will walk off saying how hard he was on them and why doesn't he cheat like the other bloke.

The easiest thing in the world is to see someone who is "associated" with a club and decide he cheats for them, what is harder is to be objective and understand he is doing a job and calls it as he sees it.

There are not enough umpires to go around the situation is what it is.

Suck it up and deal with it.

RatPack wrote:Boozehound,

Always read your posts with interest - don't always agree with you opinions, but everyone’s entitled to an opinion.

Just read your latest article in the budget - very disappointed.

Where is this article?

http://talkingamateurs.com.au/images/PD ... und_13.pdf

Page 23.

ahhh well.. dear OLD boozehound. Never read so much crap in my life, but - hey - wait a minute - Eastern Park, right? - that explains the SOTL....

Big Ezy, why am I not surprised to see you weigh in on the umpire debate.....

Phos are more than welcome to have a right of reply in my article next week if they like.....

This guy made several calls that weren't just missed decisions or borderline calls but were blatant grandstanding and showing his authority. The worst kind of copper is one that lets the power go to his head and trust me there are plenty out there, but in the end they get no respect. Same goes for umpiring. Without being agressive, you could not even speak to this guy without a twenty five metre penalty. To me a thicker skin is required to be an umpire.

I've re read the article and this is not the crux of it.

Excuse me, I wrote it, I think I know what the "crux" of it is.....Please explain...

From reading the article it would seem your main point is decisions were made on guernsey colour what you have said now is umpires should not be over officious.

You're taking one point made in the article and suggesting that is the crux of it. Very presumptuous.

boozehound wrote:Big Ezy, why am I not surprised to see you weigh in on the umpire debate.....

Phos are more than welcome to have a right of reply in my article next week if they like.....

This guy made several calls that weren't just missed decisions or borderline calls but were blatant grandstanding and showing his authority. The worst kind of copper is one that lets the power go to his head and trust me there are plenty out there, but in the end they get no respect. Same goes for umpiring. Without being agressive, you could not even speak to this guy without a twenty five metre penalty. To me a thicker skin is required to be an umpire.

Couldn't agree more that you need to be thickskinned to be an umpire, and from what I'm told - there seems to be no restrictions on the abuse players (and spectators) dish out to them - it seems that it's all fair to scream abuse at them. I bet umpires would love to scream abuse at players everytime they made a mistake. And - I have seen the PHOS B grade umpire - if it's the same bloke - a fairer bloke you wouldn't meet, but I bet if he reacted as you suggested - then it would be from the constant abuse from EP players......pretty simple really.

boozehound wrote:You're taking one point made in the article and suggesting that is the crux of it. Very presumptuous.

Fair enough but a crux really being a main point that is the way the article read to me. But of course that is an opinion.

Ummmm in the first five minutes of the game? Stamping his authority more like...

You have a real issue with EP don't you? Who are you then? What involvement do you have in footy? I put myself and my opinions out there every week and welcolme the critisism. The fact that it generates discussion is a good thing. So who are you? I would be shocked if you weren't an umpire and if you are with the obvious bias you have against EP it wouldn't surpise me....

boozehound wrote:Big Ezy, why am I not surprised to see you weigh in on the umpire debate.....

Phos are more than welcome to have a right of reply in my article next week if they like.....

This guy made several calls that weren't just missed decisions or borderline calls but were blatant grandstanding and showing his authority. The worst kind of copper is one that lets the power go to his head and trust me there are plenty out there, but in the end they get no respect. Same goes for umpiring. Without being agressive, you could not even speak to this guy without a twenty five metre penalty. To me a thicker skin is required to be an umpire.

Booze, I think you're missing the point a little - while it's true that umpires should be thicker skinned, where is the responsibility for the player to have a thick skin? I don't things have changed that much since I stopped playing that umpires now change their decisions when a player questions them. My attitude eventually was (and I learnt the hard way) is that the more you question or abuse them, the more they go against you (at least in your own perception), so you're better off keeping quiet and concentrating on your own game. As for the right of reply from PHOS, I wouldn’t think that it is their decision to make - it is up to the bloke involved to make that choice, and he may not even know about your article. But for anyone who has read your article, particularly from an opposition team, will they give him a fair go from the opening bounce of their next game? Regardless of what he may say in a right of reply?

boozehound wrote:Ummmm in the first five minutes of the game? Stamping his authority more like...

You have a real issue with EP don't you? Who are you then? What involvement do you have in footy? I put myself and my opinions out there every week and welcolme the critisism. The fact that it generates discussion is a good thing. So who are you? I would be shocked if you weren't an umpire and if you are with the obvious bias you have against EP it wouldn't surpise me....

You react pretty well to it - you should be an umpire! Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

No - no personal issue with EP - just observed (as other forumers have) that they are quick to blame the umpire if things don't go their way. If you read other posts, I have said good luck to EP going forward.

Very courageous...not going to come out and say who you are and what you do?