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Re: Salary Cap Investigations

PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 2:50 pm
by Executive Member
daysofourlives wrote:
Jimmy_041 wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:The SAAFL quite happy to have all the young blokes from the country who move to the city for education/work come into their clubs but the minute they want to go the other way they throw a tanty and want to ban them and the CFL will allow it, the sooner this dictatorship that only benefits the SAAFL and SANFL is wound up the better off the rest of the state will be
As someone said earlier far more players transferring into the SAAFL than out so whats the issue??
Maybe if you got more than Mum and Dad along to watch the amateur hour you wouldnt be so jealous of what the country clubs are offering. Why dont you start charging a gate fee and you to might be able to afford the big dollars the country clubs can


The current situation is the CFL caved in to 2 leagues on the PROMISED salary cap level this year, but PROMISED the salary cap would be reduced next year. They have now broken that written PROMISE for the second time.
The SAAFL have been trying to get the CFL change the APPS rules to allow bona fide city/country transfers worth zero points since I have been involved with it but the country leagues don't want a bar of it.

Talk about tanties

And who willll that benefit, the saafl of course so you can get all the lads moving to the city for nothing. Good on the country clubs for telling them to stick it. Again it would only work one way. As I said, why don't you lift your standards instead of dragging the well run country comps down to your level.


when did Goodwood leave the SAAFL :shock:

Re: Salary Cap Investigations

PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:16 am
by Pag
daysofourlives wrote:
Jimmy_041 wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:The SAAFL quite happy to have all the young blokes from the country who move to the city for education/work come into their clubs but the minute they want to go the other way they throw a tanty and want to ban them and the CFL will allow it, the sooner this dictatorship that only benefits the SAAFL and SANFL is wound up the better off the rest of the state will be
As someone said earlier far more players transferring into the SAAFL than out so whats the issue??
Maybe if you got more than Mum and Dad along to watch the amateur hour you wouldnt be so jealous of what the country clubs are offering. Why dont you start charging a gate fee and you to might be able to afford the big dollars the country clubs can


The current situation is the CFL caved in to 2 leagues on the PROMISED salary cap level this year, but PROMISED the salary cap would be reduced next year. They have now broken that written PROMISE for the second time.
The SAAFL have been trying to get the CFL change the APPS rules to allow bona fide city/country transfers worth zero points since I have been involved with it but the country leagues don't want a bar of it.

Talk about tanties

And who willll that benefit, the saafl of course so you can get all the lads moving to the city for nothing. Good on the country clubs for telling them to stick it. Again it would only work one way. As I said, why don't you lift your standards instead of dragging the well run country comps down to your level.

I believe it was also for teachers/police officers etc posted to the country would be worth 0 points to their new country club.

Re: Salary Cap Investigations

PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 8:31 am
by daysofourlives
Pag wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:
Jimmy_041 wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:The SAAFL quite happy to have all the young blokes from the country who move to the city for education/work come into their clubs but the minute they want to go the other way they throw a tanty and want to ban them and the CFL will allow it, the sooner this dictatorship that only benefits the SAAFL and SANFL is wound up the better off the rest of the state will be
As someone said earlier far more players transferring into the SAAFL than out so whats the issue??
Maybe if you got more than Mum and Dad along to watch the amateur hour you wouldnt be so jealous of what the country clubs are offering. Why dont you start charging a gate fee and you to might be able to afford the big dollars the country clubs can


The current situation is the CFL caved in to 2 leagues on the PROMISED salary cap level this year, but PROMISED the salary cap would be reduced next year. They have now broken that written PROMISE for the second time.
The SAAFL have been trying to get the CFL change the APPS rules to allow bona fide city/country transfers worth zero points since I have been involved with it but the country leagues don't want a bar of it.

Talk about tanties

And who willll that benefit, the saafl of course so you can get all the lads moving to the city for nothing. Good on the country clubs for telling them to stick it. Again it would only work one way. As I said, why don't you lift your standards instead of dragging the well run country comps down to your level.

I believe it was also for teachers/police officers etc posted to the country would be worth 0 points to their new country club.


As i said heavily weighted towards the city clubs, no thanks. Probably no more than a dozen get posted to the country in this fashion each year, how many go to the city for work/education?

Re: Salary Cap Investigations

PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 8:32 am
by daysofourlives
Any news on the investigations, shut down any country towns yet?

Re: Salary Cap Investigations

PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 9:02 am
by Oval Ball
daysofourlives wrote:Any news on the investigations, shut down any country towns yet?

How are they going to investigate Gawler Centrals when all involved are jumping ship and if found guilty do the new committee cop all the penalties also see Barossa Districts so called coach has retired. If the CFB are serious about the salary cap that's one big loop hole they need to fix ASAP.

Re: Salary Cap Investigations

PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 9:08 am
by jo172
Oval Ball wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:Any news on the investigations, shut down any country towns yet?

How are they going to investigate Gawler Centrals when all involved are jumping ship and if found guilty do the new committee cop all the penalties also see Barossa Districts so called coach has retired. If the CFB are serious about the salary cap that's one big loop hole they need to fix ASAP.


The Club itself cops the penalties and the individuals involved.

The Club starts 2017 with - x premiership point/less APPS etc.

Re: Salary Cap Investigations

PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 9:13 am
by Jim05
Oval Ball wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:Any news on the investigations, shut down any country towns yet?

How are they going to investigate Gawler Centrals when all involved are jumping ship and if found guilty do the new committee cop all the penalties also see Barossa Districts so called coach has retired. If the CFB are serious about the salary cap that's one big loop hole they need to fix ASAP.

Centrals were thoroughly investigated and cleared [emoji3]

Re: Salary Cap Investigations

PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 8:42 pm
by marbles
Do these salary cap restrictions apply to country leagues too? ie: luke harder

Re: Salary Cap Investigations

PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:12 pm
by Oval Ball
marbles wrote:Do these salary cap restrictions apply to country leagues too? ie: luke harder

They sure do - No sign on fees ,1 marquee player per team, total payments $3500 plus $600 incentives, so if he was there marquee player he can be paid $1000 per game.

Re: Salary Cap Investigations

PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:23 pm
by marbles
Oval Ball wrote:
marbles wrote:Do these salary cap restrictions apply to country leagues too? ie: luke harder

They sure do - No sign on fees ,1 marquee player per team, total payments $3500 plus $600 incentives, so if he was there marquee player he can be paid $1000 per game.


Thanks

Incentives means best player awards?

And so is the C9afl as follows... no marquee player & maximum $400 per player per game. $3000 total per team per game?

Re: Salary Cap Investigations

PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 3:17 pm
by sponsor
From what I'm hearing there will a number of quality players leaving SAAFL this year searching for a sensible remuneration for the time and effort they put. Seems impossible to believe in 2017 that CPI has gone backwards. I would have thought a slight increase each year would be the norm. Players who have been given a talent and not being able to benefit from it. The last report I heard was that the Vic Country AFL have set salary caps at a much higher level.
So it probably fair to say that the inclusion of teams into the SAAFL is a sign that the APPS and Salary Cap are working well for them at the expense of all other country football teams but if their blue chip players start leaving it may have the reverse effect.

Re: Salary Cap Investigations

PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 3:55 pm
by human_torpedo
sponsor wrote:From what I'm hearing there will a number of quality players leaving SAAFL this year searching for a sensible remuneration for the time and effort they put. Seems impossible to believe in 2017 that CPI has gone backwards. I would have thought a slight increase each year would be the norm. Players who have been given a talent and not being able to benefit from it. The last report I heard was that the Vic Country AFL have set salary caps at a much higher level.
So it probably fair to say that the inclusion of teams into the SAAFL is a sign that the APPS and Salary Cap are working well for them at the expense of all other country football teams but if their blue chip players start leaving it may have the reverse effect.

Amateur level footballers 'searching for sensible remuneration for the time and effort they put in' and 'players who have been given a talent and not being able to benefit from it'.. Their is a competition run annually called the 'Australian Football League' which (overly) sensibly remunerates players who have been given the talent and thus allows them to benefit from it.

The type of player you seem to be referring to are either players who don't want to put the required time and effort into playing SANFL (the league locally below the above mentioned AFL) or players who never made the cut at SANFL level for one reason or another, so to say they are missing out on sensible remuneration for the talent they have been given seems somewhat rich imo

Re: Salary Cap Investigations

PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 4:13 pm
by morell
sponsor wrote:From what I'm hearing there will a number of quality players leaving SAAFL this year searching for a sensible remuneration for the time and effort they put. Seems impossible to believe in 2017 that CPI has gone backwards. I would have thought a slight increase each year would be the norm. Players who have been given a talent and not being able to benefit from it. The last report I heard was that the Vic Country AFL have set salary caps at a much higher level.
So it probably fair to say that the inclusion of teams into the SAAFL is a sign that the APPS and Salary Cap are working well for them at the expense of all other country football teams but if their blue chip players start leaving it may have the reverse effect.

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Re: Salary Cap Investigations

PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 4:14 pm
by Q.
The sense of entitlement from some people is ******* astounding

Re: Salary Cap Investigations

PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:28 pm
by bird of prey
sponsor wrote:From what I'm hearing there will a number of quality players leaving SAAFL this year searching for a sensible remuneration for the time and effort they put. Seems impossible to believe in 2017 that CPI has gone backwards. I would have thought a slight increase each year would be the norm. Players who have been given a talent and not being able to benefit from it. The last report I heard was that the Vic Country AFL have set salary caps at a much higher level.
So it probably fair to say that the inclusion of teams into the SAAFL is a sign that the APPS and Salary Cap are working well for them at the expense of all other country football teams but if their blue chip players start leaving it may have the reverse effect.


Ha! These "blue chip" players you're talking about have been poached to the country leagues for years. I don't think this current salary cap is going to play any bigger part in it.
And this rubbish about benefiting from this talent they have been blessed with. Please :roll:
It's probably more about the ego of the player than the actual ability. Most of the time they're living off the pre season they did with a league club, or the season of ressies they played, and never live up to the hype.
Also, we lost 2 guys from our side 5 years ago to a country league that paid them $1200/game. And these 2 guys couldn't even crack our best 21 at the time. They weren't exactly "blue chip" players.

Re: Salary Cap Investigations

PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 10:23 am
by Killa
Oval Ball wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:Any news on the investigations, shut down any country towns yet?

How are they going to investigate Gawler Centrals when all involved are jumping ship and if found guilty do the new committee cop all the penalties also see Barossa Districts so called coach has retired. If the CFB are serious about the salary cap that's one big loop hole they need to fix ASAP.

If you are talking about Obst. there is a strong chance he is moving to Melbourne next year for work hence retirement. Next year you cannot have co coaches that play, but only 1 coach that can play. Barossa signed 2 playing coaches on a loophole and then Myles got his mate from Hamley Bridge to help out.

Re: Salary Cap Investigations

PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 8:57 am
by jo172
Whispers that one Grand Finalist is definitely in the gun.

CFL just waiting for the 31 October submissions to see if they self-report.

Re: Salary Cap Investigations

PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 10:08 am
by Dutchy
jo172 wrote:Whispers that one Grand Finalist is definitely in the gun.

CFL just waiting for the 31 October submissions to see if they self-report.


Div 1?

Re: Salary Cap Investigations

PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 10:25 am
by jo172
Dutchy wrote:
jo172 wrote:Whispers that one Grand Finalist is definitely in the gun.

CFL just waiting for the 31 October submissions to see if they self-report.


Div 1?


Wouldn't tell me which affiliated league sadly.

Re: Salary Cap Investigations

PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:42 pm
by Q.
SFL