University PHD Project - feel free to have your say
Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 9:50 pm
ha! I sent it to my missus who works in this sort of space (market research) and said the exact same thing.Zartan wrote:I completed it, got to say it made me feel bit uncomfortable and almost guilty to be a male involved in a football club.
Going through it gave the impression i should hold no values or respect for women, their involvement in sporting clubs or in a sexual nature. Like if i play footy i'm gonna be a chauvinistic, alcohol fueled rapist pig who treats women like objects.
Also some of the answers it was like choose - are you the biggest pig around, or are you the biggest snitch/goody too shoes.. really was nothing in between.
morell wrote:Still. It's a positive thing that it's even being talked about as there is no doubt an issue amongst footballers in regards to respect for women.
morell wrote:Unfortunately, with a lot of academia they tend to get caught in their own self reporting social circles and forget that there is a real world out there where peoples experiences and knowledge don't fit into neat and precise categories.
morell wrote:But remember its a scale, not a grouping.
Just like you can have some right wing political opinions and some left wing ones.
Zartan wrote:
I was also torn with the question "Having casual sex with footy chicks or groupies is a benefit of being a footy player"
Footy Chick wrote:Zartan wrote:
I was also torn with the question "Having casual sex with footy chicks or groupies is a benefit of being a footy player"
Ex-squeeze me?
Exactly.Trader wrote:morell wrote:Unfortunately, with a lot of academia they tend to get caught in their own self reporting social circles and forget that there is a real world out there where peoples experiences and knowledge don't fit into neat and precise categories.
From the Port Adelaide Thread:morell wrote:But remember its a scale, not a grouping.
Just like you can have some right wing political opinions and some left wing ones.
morell wrote:Hazard guess that was heading towards a "footballers think they deserve attention because they're narcissistic" type angle.
morell wrote:I also get the feeling the person organising this has an image in mind of a top gun type change room scene full of athletic ripped mid 20s types with a strong aroma of testosterone and a distinct amount of homo-eroticism. Dudes butt slapping each other and congratulating each other about the chick they just ******.
Might be the case for some clubs but come into the Mitchell Park change room and its mostly Dads, kids, women, trainers and volunteers in their 50s. The conversation is usually about sore knees, organising the kids for Sunday and maybe whose shout for beers it is.
I am somewhat conflicted as there is no doubt a bit of a recent trend, especially online, where Men are treated as the enemy at worst or at least by having a penis you're instantly removed from the conversation. It's not healthy and is counter productive.HH3 wrote:morell wrote:Hazard guess that was heading towards a "footballers think they deserve attention because they're narcissistic" type angle.
Yeah I got that jist too.
Some of the most self deprecating people I know play amateur football.
This social trend that's pushing against males at the moment is pretty dangerous. Men are already the most likely to commit suicide. Now we're all rapists, racists, and woman haters too?
IMHO when men are cornered, they'll either do what they have to to make it stop, or lash out. Either way is not good.
This is the thing I put "I would laugh it off" because it was so obviously stupid you could only laugh as it would have had to be satire.HH3 wrote:morell wrote:I also get the feeling the person organising this has an image in mind of a top gun type change room scene full of athletic ripped mid 20s types with a strong aroma of testosterone and a distinct amount of homo-eroticism. Dudes butt slapping each other and congratulating each other about the chick they just ******.
Might be the case for some clubs but come into the Mitchell Park change room and its mostly Dads, kids, women, trainers and volunteers in their 50s. The conversation is usually about sore knees, organising the kids for Sunday and maybe whose shout for beers it is.
That question about the coach using someones sister as motivation at half time was so comical I put other and typed this -
"In 14 years of senior footy, I've never witnessed anything close to this being used as motivation during a game".
They have a very skewed view of men. Vagina is the last thing I'm thinking about when I'm already aching all over and have a whole half to play still.