Salisbury West request for Affiliation

[Footy Chick]

From "The Update"

Salisbury West Application for Affiliation

At the most recent General Committee, The League tabled an application from the Salisbury West Football Club to affiliate with The League. As discussed, The League had offered a set of criteria for the SWFC to meet ranging from providing a list of 55 players and then a dossier to address ongoing concerns The League has had of the Salisbury West Football Club that led to its disaffiliation in Season 2018.

Following the SW Submission, The League sought clarification from all players listed following approaches from a small number of players and their 2019 Clubs that they were included in their submission without approval.

Subsequently, 34 players replied to this email. In the days after, office staff contacted all other players by telephone to bring the email to their attention and explain the need for a response.

Of the 57 listed, 37 players had confirmed their intent as committed to the Salisbury West Football Club in 2020. 14 players denied committing to this process and 8 players had either not replied as requested or have only registered interest with considerations such as who would be the appointed coach and or other officials.

In summary, the SWFC submission failed to meet the 55 players required which is considered an absolute minimum to field 2 senior teams.

In the past The League has had occasion to require existing member clubs to submit the same list number to validate their team nominations. We can and will not offer a club who is not currently a member of The League a diluted requirement that was not afforded to existing Member Clubs in the past.

The League has denied the SWFC affiliation and subsequently considers this matter closed.

[The Bedge]

Ouch.

Some might say the league set unrealistic requirements and time frames for them to meet, therefore always destined to fail.

[jo172]

What basis do you have for the unrealistic requirement suggestion?

That's the standard requirement for all clubs

[Love a rumour]

What basis do you have for the unrealistic requirement suggestion?

That's the standard requirement for all clubs

What do you feel realistic is? Do you think it’s realistic finding 55 players in August when a season hasn’t been finished for most players?

[Yank Man]

What basis do you have for the unrealistic requirement suggestion?

That's the standard requirement for all clubs

Mitchell Park were in the same situation in 2014/15 and were given until February to meet those requirements. Different circumstances but still a precedent. I understand fully the need to put the pressure on SWFC but it’s just turned October. 55 is a tough number and frankly it took right up to the last minute a MP to achieve it.

[The Bedge]

What basis do you have for the unrealistic requirement suggestion?

That's the standard requirement for all clubs

Mitchell Park were in the same situation in 2014/15 and were given until February to meet those requirements. Different circumstances but still a precedent. I understand fully the need to put the pressure on SWFC but it’s just turned October. 55 is a tough number and frankly it took right up to the last minute a MP to achieve it.

This requirement was asked for going back in August - 55 is certainly a big ask at any point but with so much uncertainty and other details to be flushed out such as who is coaching and what steps are in place to change the culture, getting 55 players to be 100% committed in August was near on impossible.

Also the clause that was put in that if you said yes to the league you were playing, you could not change your mind - who in their right mind would lock themselves into a club with so many questions still to be answered?

Perhaps SW could’ve gone about it differently too - signed a coach mid year and announced it and began plans for 2020 that way.

[Love a rumour]

I’m not sure Salisbury west knew the stage they were at. Pretty sure they got told a month prior get 55 players sorted by the end of August & we will go from there, if another club got until the next year then Salisbury west should have the same

[The Bedge]

I’m not sure Salisbury west knew the stage they were at. Pretty sure they got told a month prior get 55 players sorted by the end of August & we will go from there, if another club got until the next year then Salisbury west should have the same

Difference is Salisbury West aren’t an affiliated club anymore so their application is basically “a new club” one, where as Mitchell Pk were a continuing member.

[Love a rumour]

I’m not sure Salisbury west knew the stage they were at. Pretty sure they got told a month prior get 55 players sorted by the end of August & we will go from there, if another club got until the next year then Salisbury west should have the same

Difference is Salisbury West aren’t an affiliated club anymore so their application is basically “a new club” one, where as Mitchell Pk were a continuing member.

Still give them a fair chance to prove themselves not make impossible

[marbles]

Considering they'll be in div 7 who 'need' teams, is there really any urgency to lock down 55 players in august 8 months before the season starts. 37 players at this stage is a sensational effort

Imagine being a 20yo kid getting a weird ass phone call... hey dude this is sergeant saafl are u playing for SW or what buddy you must tell me immediately

[Yank Man]

I’m not sure Salisbury west knew the stage they were at. Pretty sure they got told a month prior get 55 players sorted by the end of August & we will go from there, if another club got until the next year then Salisbury west should have the same

Difference is Salisbury West aren’t an affiliated club anymore so their application is basically “a new club” one, where as Mitchell Pk were a continuing member.

Yes Bedge that’s a fair point, but Mitchell Park were told they would be disaffiliated if the obligations were not met. Hey, I’m not siding with SWFC or the league for that matter, but the league were very, very clear at that time of what was required. I took on the role as Football Operations manager at the club in October 2014 to help the club survive. Hell we were still interviewing coaches in October and the President was working his but off to get all the support staff in place. I interviewed and signed every single person who said they would sign and discussed their obligations of what it meant. When the deadline hit we were still 10 players short and fortunately the league gave us a 5 day moratorium. I was in players homes speaking truths to get the numbers needed till all hours. By the deadline we had 65 players committed and the league said you’re in. Toughest 5 months of my life but God Bless all at MP. They fought the fight and history will show they won a flag in 2015 with seriously dedicated people. The league in its defence would know the toughness of what’s required to meet deadlines and you get the feeling they have doubts on the SW process. A process they never doubted at MP.

[Love a rumour]

I’m not sure Salisbury west knew the stage they were at. Pretty sure they got told a month prior get 55 players sorted by the end of August & we will go from there, if another club got until the next year then Salisbury west should have the same

Difference is Salisbury West aren’t an affiliated club anymore so their application is basically “a new club” one, where as Mitchell Pk were a continuing member.

Yes Bedge that’s a fair point, but Mitchell Park were told they would be disaffiliated if the obligations were not met. Hey, I’m not siding with SWFC or the league for that matter, but the league were very, very clear at that time of what was required. I took on the role as Football Operations manager at the club in October 2014 to help the club survive. Hell we were still interviewing coaches in October and the President was working his but off to get all the support staff in place. I interviewed and signed every single person who said they would sign and discussed their obligations of what it meant. When the deadline hit we were still 10 players short and fortunately the league gave us a 5 day moratorium. I was in players homes speaking truths to get the numbers needed till all hours. By the deadline we had 65 players committed and the league said you’re in. Toughest 5 months of my life but God Bless all at MP. They fought the fight and history will show they won a flag in 2015 with seriously dedicated people. The league in its defence would know the toughness of what’s required to meet deadlines and you get the feeling they have doubts on the SW process. A process they never doubted at MP.

& before the 2020 season Salis west would no doubt have 55 players, they also had to have no reports next to there name

[Dutchy]

They have had over 12 months to get this sorted haven't they?

[manbitesdog]

From "The Update"

Salisbury West Application for Affiliation

At the most recent General Committee, The League tabled an application from the Salisbury West Football Club to affiliate with The League. As discussed, The League had offered a set of criteria for the SWFC to meet ranging from providing a list of 55 players and then a dossier to address ongoing concerns The League has had of the Salisbury West Football Club that led to its disaffiliation in Season 2018.

Following the SW Submission, The League sought clarification from all players listed following approaches from a small number of players and their 2019 Clubs that they were included in their submission without approval.

Subsequently, 34 players replied to this email. In the days after, office staff contacted all other players by telephone to bring the email to their attention and explain the need for a response.

Of the 57 listed, 37 players had confirmed their intent as committed to the Salisbury West Football Club in 2020. 14 players denied committing to this process and 8 players had either not replied as requested or have only registered interest with considerations such as who would be the appointed coach and or other officials.

In summary, the SWFC submission failed to meet the 55 players required which is considered an absolute minimum to field 2 senior teams.

In the past The League has had occasion to require existing member clubs to submit the same list number to validate their team nominations. We can and will not offer a club who is not currently a member of The League a diluted requirement that was not afforded to existing Member Clubs in the past.

The League has denied the SWFC affiliation and subsequently considers this matter closed.

I can tell you for a fact that the league has not contacted every player on this list of 55 players. Pretty hard to fully commit to season 2020 when some have only just finished the current season 2 weeks ago

[BenchedEagle]

Very harsh trying to make any club have 55 signed up players in early October!

Im not making any comment about their history of issues, but this was a very unrealistic demand from the SAAFL..

[Bullrider]

From "The Update"

Salisbury West Application for Affiliation

At the most recent General Committee, The League tabled an application from the Salisbury West Football Club to affiliate with The League. As discussed, The League had offered a set of criteria for the SWFC to meet ranging from providing a list of 55 players and then a dossier to address ongoing concerns The League has had of the Salisbury West Football Club that led to its disaffiliation in Season 2018.

Following the SW Submission, The League sought clarification from all players listed following approaches from a small number of players and their 2019 Clubs that they were included in their submission without approval.

Subsequently, 34 players replied to this email. In the days after, office staff contacted all other players by telephone to bring the email to their attention and explain the need for a response.

Of the 57 listed, 37 players had confirmed their intent as committed to the Salisbury West Football Club in 2020. 14 players denied committing to this process and 8 players had either not replied as requested or have only registered interest with considerations such as who would be the appointed coach and or other officials.

In summary, the SWFC submission failed to meet the 55 players required which is considered an absolute minimum to field 2 senior teams.

In the past The League has had occasion to require existing member clubs to submit the same list number to validate their team nominations. We can and will not offer a club who is not currently a member of The League a diluted requirement that was not afforded to existing Member Clubs in the past.

The League has denied the SWFC affiliation and subsequently considers this matter closed.

I can tell you for a fact that the league has not contacted every player on this list of 55 players. Pretty hard to fully commit to season 2020 when some have only just finished the current season 2 weeks ago

If you are correct, (no disrespect intended) that is a huge allegation.

I dont have an opinion either way regarding SWFC, I do know how hard it is for any football club to have 100% of its current list sign on for the following year let alone a club in SWFC's position. The significant story here is the AdFL, "In the days after, office staff contacted all other players by telephone"

The AdFL has advised members on the basis of its investigation and due diligence it will not allow SWFC back into the AdFl in 2020.
In essence you are saying the AdFL CEO and Executive have lied to its members, therefore not completed proper due diligence and have misrepresented this to its members for its own agenda and benefit. WOW...... a bit to play out here before round 1 2020.

[Love a rumour]

They have had over 12 months to get this sorted haven't they?

You don’t have 12 months if you’ve been given no information from the league about whats needed to get back in until July 2019

[marbles]

In what month was the division 7 fixture released in 2019?

[Love a rumour]

From "The Update"

Salisbury West Application for Affiliation

At the most recent General Committee, The League tabled an application from the Salisbury West Football Club to affiliate with The League. As discussed, The League had offered a set of criteria for the SWFC to meet ranging from providing a list of 55 players and then a dossier to address ongoing concerns The League has had of the Salisbury West Football Club that led to its disaffiliation in Season 2018.

Following the SW Submission, The League sought clarification from all players listed following approaches from a small number of players and their 2019 Clubs that they were included in their submission without approval.

Subsequently, 34 players replied to this email. In the days after, office staff contacted all other players by telephone to bring the email to their attention and explain the need for a response.

Of the 57 listed, 37 players had confirmed their intent as committed to the Salisbury West Football Club in 2020. 14 players denied committing to this process and 8 players had either not replied as requested or have only registered interest with considerations such as who would be the appointed coach and or other officials.

In summary, the SWFC submission failed to meet the 55 players required which is considered an absolute minimum to field 2 senior teams.

In the past The League has had occasion to require existing member clubs to submit the same list number to validate their team nominations. We can and will not offer a club who is not currently a member of The League a diluted requirement that was not afforded to existing Member Clubs in the past.

The League has denied the SWFC affiliation and subsequently considers this matter closed.

I can tell you for a fact that the league has not contacted every player on this list of 55 players. Pretty hard to fully commit to season 2020 when some have only just finished the current season 2 weeks ago

If you are correct, (no disrespect intended) that is a huge allegation.

I dont have an opinion either way regarding SWFC, I do know how hard it is for any football club to have 100% of its current list sign on for the following year let alone a club in SWFC's position. The significant story here is the AdFL, "In the days after, office staff contacted all other players by telephone"

The AdFL has advised members on the basis of its investigation and due diligence it will not allow SWFC back into the AdFl in 2020.
In essence you are saying the AdFL CEO and Executive have lied to its members, therefore not completed proper due diligence and have misrepresented this to its members for its own agenda and benefit. WOW...... a bit to play out here before round 1 2020.

I dare say lawyers & a lot of media coverage, so much the league try keep to themselves & SWFC gonna bring it all out

[Off The Wall]

From "The Update"
Salisbury West Application for Affiliation

Subsequently, 34 players replied to this email. In the days after, office staff contacted all other players by telephone to bring the email to their attention and explain the need for a response.

I can tell you for a fact that the league has not contacted every player on this list of 55 players. Pretty hard to fully commit to season 2020 when some have only just finished the current season 2 weeks ago

If you are correct, (no disrespect intended) that is a huge allegation.

I dont have an opinion either way regarding SWFC, I do know how hard it is for any football club to have 100% of its current list sign on for the following year let alone a club in SWFC's position. The significant story here is the AdFL, "In the days after, office staff contacted all other players by telephone"

The AdFL has advised members on the basis of its investigation and due diligence it will not allow SWFC back into the AdFl in 2020.
In essence you are saying the AdFL CEO and Executive have lied to its members, therefore not completed proper due diligence and have misrepresented this to its members for its own agenda and benefit. WOW...... a bit to play out here before round 1 2020.

It has been pointed out that SWFC listed players without their knowledge, so wouldnt put it past them that they listed some with bogus email addresses too, that were replied back to by someone else. So if one of those that apparently hasnt been contacted, they could of had their answer sent back for them already