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Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:03 pm
by The Bedge
Brodlach wrote:Or didn’t pay what they promised

but if they didn't get paid, then technically they wouldn't have over spent? :P

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 1:22 pm
by jo172
Brodlach wrote:Or didn’t pay what they promised


Paying over the cap but not to the extent you promised would be a hell of a bold strategy.

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 1:22 pm
by Brodlach
wenchbarwer wrote:
Brodlach wrote:Or didn’t pay what they promised


This is why you always get it in writing. Which, if that's the case, could be a bit nasty for Gaza...


Problem with writing is that then there’s a paper trail

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 1:29 pm
by Brodlach
The Bedge wrote:
Brodlach wrote:Or didn’t pay what they promised

but if they didn't get paid, then technically they wouldn't have over spent? :P

I was talking about why players flip 8)

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 1:30 pm
by wenchbarwer
Brodlach wrote:
wenchbarwer wrote:
Brodlach wrote:Or didn’t pay what they promised


This is why you always get it in writing. Which, if that's the case, could be a bit nasty for Gaza...


Problem with writing is that then there’s a paper trail


Which is why I think you're bang on the money, no pun intended.

Gaza promise to pay X, end up paying Y.

Players get the sads on and dob them in.

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 1:36 pm
by amber_fluid
wenchbarwer wrote:
Brodlach wrote:
wenchbarwer wrote:
Brodlach wrote:Or didn’t pay what they promised


This is why you always get it in writing. Which, if that's the case, could be a bit nasty for Gaza...


Problem with writing is that then there’s a paper trail


Which is why I think you're bang on the money, no pun intended.

Gaza promise to pay X, end up paying Y.

Players get the sads on and dob them in.


Does appear that way.

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 1:37 pm
by Yungmuney
Armchair expert wrote:Why did the former players flip?


I believe Gaza were denying them clearances/playing hard ball.

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:15 pm
by Armchair expert
Yungmuney wrote:
Armchair expert wrote:Why did the former players flip?


I believe Gaza were denying them clearances/playing hard ball.


Genius stuff by Gaza if that is the case

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:16 pm
by amber_fluid
Yungmuney wrote:
Armchair expert wrote:Why did the former players flip?


I believe Gaza were denying them clearances/playing hard ball.


That’ll learn em’

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:52 pm
by Dutchy
Yungmuney wrote:
Armchair expert wrote:Why did the former players flip?


I believe Gaza were denying them clearances/playing hard ball.


Correct, and when Gaza wouldn't clear them they threatened to go to SANFL with their claims, Gaza said they wouldn't, they did....

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:54 pm
by The Bedge
Dutchy wrote:
Yungmuney wrote:
Armchair expert wrote:Why did the former players flip?


I believe Gaza were denying them clearances/playing hard ball.


Correct, and when Gaza wouldn't clear them they threatened to go to SANFL with their claims, Gaza said they wouldn't, they did....

Classic.

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 3:57 pm
by dedja
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Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 3:24 pm
by The Bedge
dedja wrote:The tribunal hearing, including cross examination of witnesses, will continue on Tuesday and is expected to finish on Wednesday, when Justice David will conclude if the players in question received the money they claim to have received from the club..

Anyone know if we any closer to an outcome yet?

Need my daily fix. :lol:

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 3:34 pm
by wenchbarwer
I've got you fam


Gaza Football Club president Don Rosella denies all salary cap breach allegations at SANFL tribunal
Gaza Football Club’s president has answered allegations his club had deliberately flouted player payments up to 169 times over four years.

Daniel Renfrey

The Gaza Football Club’s president has denied all allegations the club breached salary cap regulations over a number of years in a tribunal hearing with the SANFL.

Eagles’ president Mr Don Rosella, who is facing a potential 10-year suspension from holding an official role with a SANFL affiliated club, denied involvement in or knowledge of any of the nearly 170 allegations.

Represented by lawyer Greg Griffin, Mr Rosella told Justice Michael David KC he was shocked by the statements six players had provided to the SANFL claiming weekly overpayments of up to $600.

On Monday, the SANFL, represented by lawyers Andrew Culshaw and Garry Paladins, alleged Gaza had deliberately flouted SANFL Community Football and Adelaide Footy League salary cap and player payment rules and regulations up to 169 times between 2018 and 2022, at one point spending over double the salary cap allowance of $2500 per week.

Mr Rosella, who became president of the Eagles in 2020 and has been privy to the club’s financial accounts since 2021, said the money could not have been sourced from the club.

“I’m alert to money going out of the club’s accounts and the money coming in from sponsors,” Mr Rosella said.

“It absolutely could not have come from the financial resources of the Gaza Sport and Community Club.”

Mr Rosella also revealed the financial hardships the club had been through since Covid, and claimed any money alleged to have been used in payments of players would have been spent in other areas.

“We have accumulated a debt of nearly $80,000,” he said.

“I’m flabbergasted – I never saw that amount of money and I would never agree to that.

“We had so many pressing issues at the club, if I had seen that amount of money in the club’s accounts I would have spent it on other issues, not on giving players extra money.”

Mr Rosella denied being part of any alleged meetings with players and other officials to discuss extra payments on top of recorded contract payments.

He also denied allegations of upfront payments made to former players, claiming the $4000 concerned was a loan made to a player experiencing a personal predicament, which was never repaid to the club.

The tribunal hearing between Gaza and the SANFL will continue today with an outcome expected.


Not sure the last line in the article gives us any visibility as to when this saga will end...

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 3:40 pm
by dedja
Telling statement …

“I’m alert to money going out of the club’s accounts and the money coming in from sponsors,” Mr Rosella said.

“It absolutely could not have come from the financial resources of the Gaza Sport and Community Club.”


Which translates to …

Do you think we’re stupid, we used accounts off the books.

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 4:27 pm
by The Bedge
dedja wrote:Telling statement …

“I’m alert to money going out of the club’s accounts and the money coming in from sponsors,” Mr Rosella said.

“It absolutely could not have come from the financial resources of the Gaza Sport and Community Club.”


Which translates to …

Do you think we’re stupid, we used accounts off the books.

Literally what my 1st thought was! :lol:

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 4:30 pm
by The Bedge
He also denied allegations of upfront payments made to former players, claiming the $4000 concerned was a loan made to a player experiencing a personal predicament, which was never repaid to the club.

I get helping people out etc.. but why as a not for profit community sporting organisation would you ever entertain loaning a player money let alone that much!? :shock:

Geez if I asked Chris Pike for some money at Ingle Farm, she'd probably run me over in her car and then charge me for the fuel used.

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 4:32 pm
by tigerpie
I'd be more worried about the "loan" that never got paid back.
Was that loan in writing?
If not they'll get picked apart.
If they, as a hail Mary attempt, give up the brown paper bag from a sponsor defence, that'll open another can of worms altogether.
Taxman implications.
It's just horse pooh this whole saga.

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 4:48 pm
by Brodlach
Money at the football club belongs to all members, irritates me that people think it’s ok to lend people money that doesn’t belong to them.

That goes for helping themselves to the fridge constantly too.

Work hard and maybe a drink or two but some take the piss

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 6:21 pm
by Jimmy_041
The Bedge wrote:
He also denied allegations of upfront payments made to former players, claiming the $4000 concerned was a loan made to a player experiencing a personal predicament, which was never repaid to the club.

I get helping people out etc.. but why as a not for profit community sporting organisation would you ever entertain loaning a player money let alone that much!? :shock:

Geez if I asked Chris Pike for some money at Ingle Farm, she'd probably run me over in her car and then charge me for the fuel used.


She could syndicate it and make a fortune :P