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Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:11 am
by whufc
Brodlach wrote:
Down the Hill wrote:I'm curious how people think $186K is manageable. What sort of income is coming through your clubs!! I expect they will be given at least 5 years to pay the fine so that's still $37K a year. Some clubs would struggle to even budget for that amount of money for player payments. It's one thing to pay off a debt if it's something like a loan for lights etc. when the club is otherwise in a sound position on and off the field but clearly Gaza aren't in that position. Wouldn't have a clue who is left to pick up the pieces at Gaza and good luck to them if they can make a go of senior participation in 2024 but it must be hard for them to even reconcile the 'what now'.

Don’t pay any players, use that money to pay the debt.

18 weeks x $2500 = $45,000

Gives $400 a week left to maybe pay a player or two.


Surely they could get an A Grade coach for free....albeit it might not be the perfect candidate but surely there is a bloke out there who would volunteer to have a crack at an A Grade gig with a club with a long history. Like i said might not be the best candidate but beggers can't be choosers.

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:13 am
by The Bedge
Brodlach wrote:I’m no longer involved out there.

Shh, don't ruin my fun :D

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:14 am
by Brodlach
The Bedge wrote:
Brodlach wrote:I’m no longer involved out there.

Shh, don't ruin my fun :D

Haha, carry on.

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:15 am
by The Bedge
whufc wrote:Surely they could get an A Grade coach for free....albeit it might not be the perfect candidate but surely there is a bloke out there who would volunteer to have a crack at an A Grade gig with a club with a long history. Like i said might not be the best candidate but beggers can't be choosers.

Need someone who is very resolute - would be a very tough gig if you're on a hiding to nothing each week, need to keep people focused, aligned and ultimately you're investing 12 months of the year as a volunteer.

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:24 am
by Brodlach
The Bedge wrote:
whufc wrote:Surely they could get an A Grade coach for free....albeit it might not be the perfect candidate but surely there is a bloke out there who would volunteer to have a crack at an A Grade gig with a club with a long history. Like i said might not be the best candidate but beggers can't be choosers.

Need someone who is very resolute - would be a very tough gig if you're on a hiding to nothing each week, need to keep people focused, aligned and ultimately you're investing 12 months of the year as a volunteer.


Coach for them would be on $10-$15k?

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:26 am
by whufc
The Bedge wrote:
whufc wrote:Surely they could get an A Grade coach for free....albeit it might not be the perfect candidate but surely there is a bloke out there who would volunteer to have a crack at an A Grade gig with a club with a long history. Like i said might not be the best candidate but beggers can't be choosers.

Need someone who is very resolute - would be a very tough gig if you're on a hiding to nothing each week, need to keep people focused, aligned and ultimately you're investing 12 months of the year as a volunteer.


100% would be a tough gig but i think something say a first time a grade coach would appreciate is that it would almost be a free hit results wise. There will be no talk of premierships, you will have a license to play the kids, teach and coach. Recruiting will be tough but at least you would be recruiting for the right reasons eg players that want to be part of a project.

I dont know about others but im a volunteer b grade coach at my club and it brings a lot of benefits with it. (100% concede i dont put in as many hours as the A Grade coach) but coaching without the added pressure of money being involved brings an element of freedom and joy with it. If i was in Adelaide and ambitious about my coaching i wouldn't have a problem volunteering at all. Success would be an incredible notch on your belt. Surely im not the only bloke around the state that would feel like that.

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:32 am
by Trader
Once again, if the club can pay $380k over the cap over 5 years, they clearly have money.
They can pay the fine.

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:35 am
by The Bedge
whufc wrote:100% would be a tough gig but i think something say a first time a grade coach would appreciate is that it would almost be a free hit results wise. There will be no talk of premierships, you will have a license to play the kids, teach and coach. Recruiting will be tough but at least you would be recruiting for the right reasons eg players that want to be part of a project.

I dont know about others but im a volunteer b grade coach at my club and it brings a lot of benefits with it. (100% concede i dont put in as many hours as the A Grade coach) but coaching without the added pressure of money being involved brings an element of freedom and joy with it. If i was in Adelaide and ambitious about my coaching i wouldn't have a problem volunteering at all. Success would be an incredible notch on your belt. Surely im not the only bloke around the state that would feel like that.

You can't compare A grade to B grade my friend - they're streets apart.. and it can't be as easy as giving a newbie a crack in the hot season unless you have some serious support around them.

I think plenty of coaches would coach for reduced amount or even free just because they love what they do - but the reality is they deserve to be compensated for the hours invested and more critically the bullshit they deal will week in week out.

There would be no joy or freedom in coaching an A grade side that is unlikely to win, especially when the egos and expectations of players and members alike is to perform.

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:37 am
by whufc
Trader wrote:Once again, if the club can pay $380k over the cap over 5 years, they clearly have money.
They can pay the fine.


Would they be generating the same income after this scandal that they were 5 years ago.....highly unlikely you would think.

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:37 am
by whufc
Trader wrote:Once again, if the club can pay $380k over the cap over 5 years, they clearly have money.
They can pay the fine.


Would they be generating the same income after this scandal that they were 5 years ago.....highly unlikely you would think.

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:46 am
by whufc
The Bedge wrote:
whufc wrote:100% would be a tough gig but i think something say a first time a grade coach would appreciate is that it would almost be a free hit results wise. There will be no talk of premierships, you will have a license to play the kids, teach and coach. Recruiting will be tough but at least you would be recruiting for the right reasons eg players that want to be part of a project.

I dont know about others but im a volunteer b grade coach at my club and it brings a lot of benefits with it. (100% concede i dont put in as many hours as the A Grade coach) but coaching without the added pressure of money being involved brings an element of freedom and joy with it. If i was in Adelaide and ambitious about my coaching i wouldn't have a problem volunteering at all. Success would be an incredible notch on your belt. Surely im not the only bloke around the state that would feel like that.

You can't compare A grade to B grade my friend - they're streets apart.. and it can't be as easy as giving a newbie a crack in the hot season unless you have some serious support around them.

I think plenty of coaches would coach for reduced amount or even free just because they love what they do - but the reality is they deserve to be compensated for the hours invested and more critically the bullshit they deal will week in week out.

There would be no joy or freedom in coaching an A grade side that is unlikely to win, especially when the egos and expectations of players and members alike is to perform.


I dont disagree for a second but the point more being surely there is someone in SA who is ambitious about coaching and would love a crack at an A Grade that they may not have ordinarily got.....even if that means doing it for free for 12 months. Alternatively maybe an old skool coach who wants one final challenge.

I can put my hand on my heart and say that IF (not that im interested nor qualified) i ever coached our clubs A Grade i wouldn't want a cent back. I dont begrudge people that do but my personal circumstances just dont need me to get paid (not that im rich haha) My 30+ years being around sporting club tells me you get back far more from being involved than a club could ever pay you. Personally would rather see whatever money a club has to pay for me to coach to be put to junior programs, female sport etc etc especially here in the country. It's a must that my 3 daughters have a sporting club to play at and grow up around here in Mid North.

I just struggle to believe there isn't anyone who would take that opportunity on....i know i would if i was Gaza person and Adelaide based.

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:55 am
by The Bedge
Wasn't saying there wouldn't be - or that Gaza wouldn't find someone who would do it for nothing.. just saying don't think putting someone at the helm is as simple, straight forward or risk free as you make it sound.

Anyway, i'm over this Gaza chat.. time to focus on the season. :D

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 2:22 pm
by tigerpie
Trader wrote:Once again, if the club can pay $380k over the cap over 5 years, they clearly have money.
They can pay the fine.

Their sponsors have got some extra mileage so they could ask for more coin from them. ;)
Pay it off in 3 years easy.

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 3:20 pm
by Dutchy
tigerpie wrote:
Trader wrote:Once again, if the club can pay $380k over the cap over 5 years, they clearly have money.
They can pay the fine.

Their sponsors have got some extra mileage so they could ask for more coin from them. ;)
Pay it off in 3 years easy.


They may have issues retaining sponsors and juniors after all this

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 3:43 pm
by tigerpie
Like most have said the vast majority of the club have nothing but good intentions.
It's just a few that want to cheat.
Hopefully their sponsors stick with a new committee.
It's been a valuable lesson for all clubs state wide to be very careful with the cap.

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 4:14 pm
by Yank Man
Talk about going out swinging. Rosella has just had a serious crack at SANFL on 7 News. This guy is delusional. :shock:

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 4:19 pm
by The Bedge
Yank Man wrote:Talk about going out swinging. Rosella has just had a serious crack at SANFL on 7 News. This guy is delusional. :shock:

Not the smartest move consideration penalties haven’t officially come down yet, only recommendations..

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 4:20 pm
by amber_fluid
Yank Man wrote:Talk about going out swinging. Rosella has just had a serious crack at SANFL on 7 News. This guy is delusional. :shock:


Got a link?
I can’t find one

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 5:17 pm
by Jimmy_041
amber_fluid wrote:
Yank Man wrote:Talk about going out swinging. Rosella has just had a serious crack at SANFL on 7 News. This guy is delusional. :shock:


Got a link?
I can’t find one


Time to go home and watch Ch 7 News 8)

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 6:25 pm
by amber_fluid
Jimmy_041 wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:
Yank Man wrote:Talk about going out swinging. Rosella has just had a serious crack at SANFL on 7 News. This guy is delusional. :shock:


Got a link?
I can’t find one


Time to go home and watch Ch 7 News 8)


Just saw it.
Talk about playing the victim card!