Split the SFL into Two Leagues/Divisions

[FootyMad]

With a possible relegation system as per SAAFL

Whats the general thought around this? I think it used to be like this a few years back.

My argument is that I regularly see teams beaten by 30 goals week in week out, there seems to be a huge divide between the bottom half and top half.
Also there are 16 teams in the league with some teams having to play the tops sides twice and others only having to play them once a year.

[MatteeG]

Used to be 2 divisions FM but the teams which won Div 2 rarely took up the option of going into div 1 (esp. Kangys).

I agree it should have been iron clad promotion/relegation but it was never enforced.

[Blue Boy]

It should happen - but the SFL have never enforced the promotion/relegation before and I dont think they will if they tried it again.

They seem to be a little scared of losing teams.

[FootyMad]

I dont know about you blokes but Id rather play two divs personally than get smashed and not appear in finals - EVER.
Enforce the relegation system I say and maybe come up with additional slary cap rules/allowances for teams being promoted. Its just not footy getting flogged regularly by 30goals over for a few years in a row. Not good promotion for the game either.

[comeon]

It will never happen not going to happen leauge will have to live with it, unless comp can attracted 3-5 more teams for differant comps then they can have two divisions.But until then one comp will be enforced, that was the leauges views before christmas

[FootyMad]

Thanks for that info, yeah I heard that the league is not looking at budging anytime soon.

No reason they cant switch to a top 5 and have two divs of 8 OR

Div 1 = 10 teams Premiere Division with a final five
Div 2 = 6 Teams with a final four

Or not...

Scrap that, two divs of 8 each with a fianl five in each and a set in stone relegation system thats sees points awarded to teams being promoted.

Im dreaming arent I? Its just not going to happen?

[Backliner]

Hard to attract teams from other leagues. Example was 20/20 game. Reynella beat Meadows 15 goals to 1. I'm sure they won't be looking at SFL in a hurry, maybe we can do a straight swap

[croc11]

A stupid subject made worse by me even replying. The SFL won't bring in 2 Divs now - should never have made it 1 comp in 2002. They (SFL) and the clubs are stuck with it now.
The onus will be on the bottom clubs to improve - if they don't these clubs have no other option other than to merge (probably won't happen), fold (Hackham must be close to this again in 2007) or go into the bottom rungs of the Amateur League (Div 7).
The clubs that will struggle will be the ones who don't have their juniors up and running. Some clubs will pay out cash just to survive, but if you can't make the finals consistently and look like winning, then even they will have to consider their future unless they have a very wealthy benefactor and there aren't too many of them around.
Let's stop this rubbish and look at the SFL in a reasonably positive light - at some stage last year there were 6 clubs in with a big show of winning the flag. Yes, a couple dropped off the pace late in the year , but only die to injuries. 6 chances of winning a flag suggests a pretty good comp even with the mismatches against the 2nd tier clubs. Let's see after Rd 9 whether the comp starts evening itself up a bit. Give the bottom clubs a go - it is really up to them!

[FootyMad]

A stupid subject made worse by me even replying. The SFL won't bring in 2 Divs now - should never have made it 1 comp in 2002. They (SFL) and the clubs are stuck with it now.
The onus will be on the bottom clubs to improve - if they don't these clubs have no other option other than to merge (probably won't happen), fold (Hackham must be close to this again in 2007) or go into the bottom rungs of the Amateur League (Div 7).
The clubs that will struggle will be the ones who don't have their juniors up and running. Some clubs will pay out cash just to survive, but if you can't make the finals consistently and look like winning, then even they will have to consider their future unless they have a very wealthy benefactor and there aren't too many of them around.
Let's stop this rubbish and look at the SFL in a reasonably positive light - at some stage last year there were 6 clubs in with a big show of winning the flag. Yes, a couple dropped off the pace late in the year , but only die to injuries. 6 chances of winning a flag suggests a pretty good comp even with the mismatches against the 2nd tier clubs. Let's see after Rd 9 whether the comp starts evening itself up a bit. Give the bottom clubs a go - it is really up to them!

Mate your probably a SFL diehard, granted. But to call this a stupid subject and still have your say makes you a bit of a self obsessed toss to be perfectly honest.
I posted this subject and then asked for opinions! I am not from the SFL and as stated read the scores in the paper, I wanted to know why they went back to one div and whether there is an opportunity to go to 2 divs again!
Further more the SAAFL - only the biggest league in the state seem to have there system down pat and clubs dont complain. Merging a footy club is not easy nor an option for most, being 2nd tier club does not attract sponsors nor players so beside waiting on high schools to open what do clubs do? Thats not a statement, its a question. Atleast returngint to 2 divs gives 2nd tier clubs finals options and the ability to be promoted. Far from a stupid topic for people outside the SFL - we dont know your history in the main, we only read in the sunday mail about your 30 goal drummings!

[Bluedemon]

care factor of zilch

[FootyMad]

What are you doing in the thread then ya drop kick!

[magpie in the 80's]

even though this was years ago and i mean years ago the hills footy league merged their 2 divisions in 1983.

the outcome: not one div2 side defeated a div1 side that year
regular 30+ goal thrashings each week.
multiple 100 goal goal kickers

outcome: reverted back to 2 divs following year and still is today

[MatteeG]

even though this was years ago and i mean years ago the hills footy league merged their 2 divisions in 1983.

the outcome: not one div2 side defeated a div1 side that year
regular 30+ goal thrashings each week.
multiple 100 goal goal kickers

outcome: reverted back to 2 divs following year and still is today

Amen.

[Bluedemon]

What are you doing in the thread then ya drop kick!

you can talk drop kick, southern league stuffed up big time when they went as one league, who was the fools that decided on it? stupid decision by the southern league, it is killing off clubs not helping them.

[FootyMad]

What are you doing in the thread then ya drop kick!

you can talk drop kick, southern league stuffed up big time when they went as one league, who was the fools that decided on it? stupid decision by the southern league, it is killing off clubs not helping them.

Get up with the subject and who is saying what!
Read from the start - if your 'care factor is zilch' then piss off!

In saying that I do agree that they should have two divs!

Now head back to the u/15s - I think the lunch bell is ringing!

[Bluedemon]

What are you doing in the thread then ya drop kick!

you can talk drop kick, southern league stuffed up big time when they went as one league, who was the fools that decided on it? stupid decision by the southern league, it is killing off clubs not helping them.

Get up with the subject and who is saying what!
Read from the start - if your 'care factor is zilch' then piss off!

In saying that I do agree that they should have two divs!

Now head back to the u/15s - I think the lunch bell is ringing!

HA HA what a comedian, good one smart arse, get a life

[FootyMad]

Your right, it was a good one!

[Pag]

I don't know a whole lot about the southern league, but surely two divisions of 8 has to be better than teams getting 30-goal floggings every week. That just shouldn't happen at senior level.

[Junior]

A stupid subject made worse by me even replying. The SFL won't bring in 2 Divs now - should never have made it 1 comp in 2002. They (SFL) and the clubs are stuck with it now.
The onus will be on the bottom clubs to improve - if they don't these clubs have no other option other than to merge (probably won't happen), fold (Hackham must be close to this again in 2007) or go into the bottom rungs of the Amateur League (Div 7).
The clubs that will struggle will be the ones who don't have their juniors up and running. Some clubs will pay out cash just to survive, but if you can't make the finals consistently and look like winning, then even they will have to consider their future unless they have a very wealthy benefactor and there aren't too many of them around.
Let's stop this rubbish and look at the SFL in a reasonably positive light - at some stage last year there were 6 clubs in with a big show of winning the flag. Yes, a couple dropped off the pace late in the year , but only die to injuries. 6 chances of winning a flag suggests a pretty good comp even with the mismatches against the 2nd tier clubs. Let's see after Rd 9 whether the comp starts evening itself up a bit. Give the bottom clubs a go - it is really up to them!

I think the main reason some of these smaller clubs cannot catch the top teams is because the league are so far up the top teams arses that they do not care about the league as a whole, only making sure the top teams stay top. For instance, how are the top teams allowed to have two of each junior grade, yet they talk about kicking clubs out of the league for not having juniors? Remember most clubs aren't that far from each other and with the top teams having so much success, where do you think all the parents want their kids to play? Not hard to figure out.

[bass_player]

Exactly Junior. The only real solution to this is to only allow junior players to play for the team closest to their residence. The league would never allow it though. How else would Morphett Vale and Reynella be able to field 2-3 teams in each junior grade?