Australian Tour to Sri Lanka - Jan 2025

First Class Cricket Talk (International and State)

Re: Australian Tour to Sri Lanka - Jan 2025

Postby RB » Fri Jan 10, 2025 5:33 pm

RB wrote:I don't think David Warner was ever dropped, per se.

Suspended for giving Joe Root a slap, then the sandpaper incident. But never dropped on form.
I think Adam Gilchrist and Rod Marsh can be added to the list of players who were never dropped (Marsh obviously missed a number of official tests while playing in WSC).
R.I.P. the SANFL 1877 - 2013
User avatar
RB
Coach
 
Posts: 5960
Joined: Fri Aug 26, 2011 3:45 pm
Has liked: 817 times
Been liked: 1205 times

Re: Australian Tour to Sri Lanka - Jan 2025

Postby spell_check » Fri Jan 10, 2025 5:54 pm

Also Ian Healy; only missed one game due to injury. From September 1988 to January 2008 he and Gilchrist combined played in all but one of the 216 Tests played by Australia.

https://www.howstat.com/Cricket/Statist ... cutive.asp
spell_check
Coach
 
 
Posts: 18773
Joined: Fri Oct 28, 2005 11:56 pm
Has liked: 45 times
Been liked: 208 times

Re: Australian Tour to Sri Lanka - Jan 2025

Postby RB » Fri Jan 10, 2025 6:32 pm

I excluded Healy because he was effectively dropped ahead of the 1999 series v Pakistan (i.e. and then retired).
R.I.P. the SANFL 1877 - 2013
User avatar
RB
Coach
 
Posts: 5960
Joined: Fri Aug 26, 2011 3:45 pm
Has liked: 817 times
Been liked: 1205 times

Re: Australian Tour to Sri Lanka - Jan 2025

Postby am Bays » Fri Jan 10, 2025 8:52 pm

I was only talking about batsmen not keepers

The tradition in Australian cricket has generally been pick a keeper and stick to them

You can basically run a line from Carter, Oldfield, Tallon, Langley, Grout, Jarman Marsh, Healy, Gilchrist and Haddin for over 100 years

Yeah there’s been a few periodically like Maddocks, Taber, Wright, Rixon, Woolley, Phillips, Dyer, and Wade but the success rate of picking a keeper and giving them a long run at it has generally been pretty good by our Selectors
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
User avatar
am Bays
Coach
 
 
Posts: 19498
Joined: Sat Dec 17, 2005 11:04 pm
Location: The back bar at Lennies
Has liked: 179 times
Been liked: 2059 times

Re: Australian Tour to Sri Lanka - Jan 2025

Postby RB » Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:36 pm

Fair enough.

In that case, David Warner and Mike Hussey are the only examples I can think of in terms of specialist batsmen in recent-ish times for Australia that were never 'dropped'.
R.I.P. the SANFL 1877 - 2013
User avatar
RB
Coach
 
Posts: 5960
Joined: Fri Aug 26, 2011 3:45 pm
Has liked: 817 times
Been liked: 1205 times

Re: Australian Tour to Sri Lanka - Jan 2025

Postby spell_check » Fri Jan 10, 2025 11:26 pm

RB wrote:I excluded Healy because he was effectively dropped ahead of the 1999 series v Pakistan (i.e. and then retired).

Oh yeah, kinda forgot - I was thinking about the epiphany both had; that they had to give it away upon dropping a simple catch
spell_check
Coach
 
 
Posts: 18773
Joined: Fri Oct 28, 2005 11:56 pm
Has liked: 45 times
Been liked: 208 times

Re: Australian Tour to Sri Lanka - Jan 2025

Postby Aerie » Sat Jan 11, 2025 11:28 am

woodublieve12 wrote:Big fan of the lad, but this series could make or break Konstas. Not forever but potentially send him back to shield for a long spell. No doubting his talent, but he needs to show that he can build an innings.


McSweeney wasn't doing too badly and I believe they brought Konstas in as a circuit breaker against Bumrah, as much as anything. It paid off. His 1st innings in Melbourne was sensational and his 2nd innings in Sydney was important, regardless of how he lost his wicket.

I think they will go horses for courses. Connolly's inclusion is an interesting selection and it wouldn't surprise me if they open with Head and Khawaja and bat Connolly at 5. Bring a spinner (I'd choose the lefty Kuhnemann for variety) in for Cummins and that will be the XI for the 1st Test IMO.

Konstas, McSweeney, Connolly, Webster all with a taste of Test cricket over this summer. Green to come back into the XI. All of a sudden, our next generation isn't looking too bad and we'll be better for it going into the Ashes next summer.

Inglis to continue as the white ball keeper and to be ready to take over from Carey in the Test team if/when Carey has a form slump, but shouldn't play as a specialist batsman at Test level.
User avatar
Aerie
Coach
 
 
Posts: 5698
Joined: Wed Nov 16, 2005 1:05 am
Has liked: 170 times
Been liked: 572 times

Re: Australian Tour to Sri Lanka - Jan 2025

Postby robranisgod » Sat Jan 11, 2025 11:49 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
mal wrote:Spare a thought for Stuart Law
Made 54 not out on debut, and was dropped , but never made the test team again


I guess the LAW didn't win.


According to the media of the time Stuart Law had a very public feud with a most prominent Australian test player of the time.
There was even talk of Law becoming an English player due to his ancestry and the fact that he was playing county cricket consistently at the time.
He also allegedly had a decades long feud with a legendary Sheffield Shield player. That player is often cited as the greatest wicket keeper not to play a test for Australia.
Lastly, I often wondered whether Law was never forgiven for dropping a regulation outfield catch at a vital time in the 1996 World Cup 50 over final.
robranisgod
League - Best 21
 
 
Posts: 2045
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:36 pm
Has liked: 92 times
Been liked: 255 times
Grassroots Team: Flinders University

Re: Australian Tour to Sri Lanka - Jan 2025

Postby Lightning McQueen » Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:59 am

robranisgod wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
mal wrote:Spare a thought for Stuart Law
Made 54 not out on debut, and was dropped , but never made the test team again


I guess the LAW didn't win.


According to the media of the time Stuart Law had a very public feud with a most prominent Australian test player of the time.
There was even talk of Law becoming an English player due to his ancestry and the fact that he was playing county cricket consistently at the time.
He also allegedly had a decades long feud with a legendary Sheffield Shield player. That player is often cited as the greatest wicket keeper not to play a test for Australia.
Lastly, I often wondered whether Law was never forgiven for dropping a regulation outfield catch at a vital time in the 1996 World Cup 50 over final.


He was up against some pretty decent competition for spots in the Aussie team at the time, I think you hit the nail on the head with your "feud" comments, he was pretty arrogant from what I've heard.
HOGG SHIELD DIVISION V WINNER 2018.
User avatar
Lightning McQueen
Coach
 
Posts: 52545
Joined: Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:43 am
Location: Radiator Springs
Has liked: 4450 times
Been liked: 8287 times

Previous

Board index   Other Sports  Cricket

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 6 guests

Around the place

Competitions   SANFL Official Site | Country Footy SA | Southern Football League | VFL Footy
Club Forums   Snouts Louts | The Roost | Redlegs Forum |