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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby FlyingHigh » Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:51 am

WI - day one @ Perth - 90 overs. 11 minutes overtime taken up with four delays for Ponting to receive Physio treatment, ie what the extra 1/2 hour was designed for. One challenge, three wickets.
AUS - day one @ Adelaide - 85 overs including 30 minutes overtime. 6 wickets, 3 (?) challenges.

How come the Windies can do it but we can't?
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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby Dutchy » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:32 am

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Dutchy wrote:2 tons in 25 digs...outstanding?


rephrase to very good.runs dont lie and hes made plenty of them of late. i think you made a big comment early about him and your trying to justify it dutchy


Never said he couldnt bat or make runs, its turning them into big scores to help your country out....stats dont lie...this bloke gets so many starts but continues to fail to make it count and hurt teams...
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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:39 am

FlyingHigh wrote:WI - day one @ Perth - 90 overs. 11 minutes overtime taken up with four delays for Ponting to receive Physio treatment, ie what the extra 1/2 hour was designed for. One challenge, three wickets.
AUS - day one @ Adelaide - 85 overs including 30 minutes overtime. 6 wickets, 3 (?) challenges.

How come the Windies can do it but we can't?


More overs of spin but still inexcusable, we should stop throwing the ball back to Haddin when it's hit to mid-on or covers, Pup is the worse offender.
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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby Bum Crack » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:57 am

Is it just me, or do other people think Justin Langer is a terrible commentator?? Everytime I hear his voice, I just want to smash him.
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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby Dirko » Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:00 am

Bum Crack wrote:Is it just me, or do other people think Justin Langer is a terrible commentator?? Everytime I hear his voice, I just want to smash him.


Sounds like he's talking while holding his nose whilst dunking his head into a bucket of water....
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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby FlyingHigh » Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:03 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
FlyingHigh wrote:WI - day one @ Perth - 90 overs. 11 minutes overtime taken up with four delays for Ponting to receive Physio treatment, ie what the extra 1/2 hour was designed for. One challenge, three wickets.
AUS - day one @ Adelaide - 85 overs including 30 minutes overtime. 6 wickets, 3 (?) challenges.

How come the Windies can do it but we can't?


More overs of spin but still inexcusable, we should stop throwing the ball back to Haddin when it's hit to mid-on or covers, Pup is the worse offender.


True, but that is something that seems to have crept into the game over the last 20 years. I suppose it's all to do with team disciplines? Or designed to help the quick bowlers recover? Probably a fairly minor thing, but still wasting time.
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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:24 am

FlyingHigh wrote:
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FlyingHigh wrote:WI - day one @ Perth - 90 overs. 11 minutes overtime taken up with four delays for Ponting to receive Physio treatment, ie what the extra 1/2 hour was designed for. One challenge, three wickets.
AUS - day one @ Adelaide - 85 overs including 30 minutes overtime. 6 wickets, 3 (?) challenges.

How come the Windies can do it but we can't?


More overs of spin but still inexcusable, we should stop throwing the ball back to Haddin when it's hit to mid-on or covers, Pup is the worse offender.


True, but that is something that seems to have crept into the game over the last 20 years. I suppose it's all to do with team disciplines? Or designed to help the quick bowlers recover? Probably a fairly minor thing, but still wasting time.


It certainly has, I think it has a direct relation to the slow over rates, even the Windies in the 80's with 4 quicks bowling all day were able to meet the deadline.
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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby Pottsy » Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:45 am

SJABC wrote:
Bum Crack wrote:Is it just me, or do other people think Justin Langer is a terrible commentator?? Everytime I hear his voice, I just want to smash him.


Sounds like he's talking while holding his nose whilst dunking his head into a bucket of water....


Yeah, terrible voice, but I quite like what he talks about. He's got recent dressing room experience, and you can tell he still has the passion that made him such a good cricketer, despite relatively limited skills, going.

Also, he is faultless when it comes to stopping his colour commentary when the bowler starts his run, so the ball by ball man can give his description.

I'll take him over Drew Morphett, that bloke is missing something. And he calls the wrong player too often.
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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby silicone skyline » Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:47 am

I liked Adam Gilchrist's commentary.
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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby mal » Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:53 am

I wonder who will open the bowling this morning
SARWAN + GAYLE
No doubt if that was the case SARWAN would be bowling into the wind

Fair dinkum
Will ROACH bowl with the wind today ?
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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby Pottsy » Thu Dec 17, 2009 11:27 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:It certainly has, I think it has a direct relation to the slow over rates, even the Windies in the 80's with 4 quicks bowling all day were able to meet the deadline.


I'm pretty sure I remember Ian Chappell talking about the abysmal over rates by the windies of the 70s and 80s. He was saying that it was a major part of the difficulty in playing them, as they didn't bowl enough overs for a big score to be able to happen even on those rare occasions where they were on top of the bowling attack. Talking about over rates of under 80 a day at times IIRC.

I've had a quick scour around, but can't find any stats to back up my memory. Anyone know?
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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu Dec 17, 2009 11:43 am

Pottsy wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:It certainly has, I think it has a direct relation to the slow over rates, even the Windies in the 80's with 4 quicks bowling all day were able to meet the deadline.


I'm pretty sure I remember Ian Chappell talking about the abysmal over rates by the windies of the 70s and 80s. He was saying that it was a major part of the difficulty in playing them, as they didn't bowl enough overs for a big score to be able to happen even on those rare occasions where they were on top of the bowling attack. Talking about over rates of under 80 a day at times IIRC.

I've had a quick scour around, but can't find any stats to back up my memory. Anyone know?


I do recall them having to chuck Gomes and Viv on during one-dayers to speed it up, probably not the best example.
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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby Rik E Boy » Thu Dec 17, 2009 11:57 am

Dutchy wrote:2 tons in 25 digs...outstanding?


An opener averaging over 50? Yep. Outstanding. GO THE KAT. :lol:

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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby FlyingHigh » Thu Dec 17, 2009 12:02 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Pottsy wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:It certainly has, I think it has a direct relation to the slow over rates, even the Windies in the 80's with 4 quicks bowling all day were able to meet the deadline.


I'm pretty sure I remember Ian Chappell talking about the abysmal over rates by the windies of the 70s and 80s. He was saying that it was a major part of the difficulty in playing them, as they didn't bowl enough overs for a big score to be able to happen even on those rare occasions where they were on top of the bowling attack. Talking about over rates of under 80 a day at times IIRC.

I've had a quick scour around, but can't find any stats to back up my memory. Anyone know?


I do recall them having to chuck Gomes and Viv on during one-dayers to speed it up, probably not the best example.


Yeah, reckon the Windies were pretty ordinary at it through this time. Don't know whether the Australians were often too much better. One good thing about modern day cricket is fast bowlers seem to have reduced their run-ups. Can remember some such as Lawson, Hughes, Holding whose were ridiculously long.

Think Allan Border talks about it in one of his books that in 1991 the tour playing conditions stated 90 overs had to be bolwed and they were regularly playing an extra hour often into ordinary light against the fast bowlers. The Windies prepared themselves to bowl into overtime, whereas the Aussies mental attitude was one of "time for stumps" but they had an extra 12-15 overs to play, and those batsmen who had been concentrating for, say 3-4+ hours, had to keep concentrating and often got out in "overtime", with the new batsman had to come in against the bad light.

Still, doesn't detract from the fact the Aussies are ordinary at it at the moment.
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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby Swamp Donkey » Thu Dec 17, 2009 12:03 pm

Dutchy wrote:
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Dutchy wrote:2 tons in 25 digs...outstanding?


rephrase to very good.runs dont lie and hes made plenty of them of late. i think you made a big comment early about him and your trying to justify it dutchy


Never said he couldnt bat or make runs, its turning them into big scores to help your country out....stats dont lie...this bloke gets so many starts but continues to fail to make it count and hurt teams...


Kidding yourself Dutchy, if all Aussie batsmen were as consistent as this man we'd be very hard to stop. He has been a rock at the top order. He doesnt score overly fast which means he occupies the crease and builds big partnerships with the faster scoring Watson, Ponting etc. You need these types too. I agree that he gets plenty of starts and has missed out on few chances to make big scores but I hardly think Katich is Australia's biggest problem at the moment, he would be the least of their worries.
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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby westcoastpanther » Thu Dec 17, 2009 12:10 pm

Must join the queue here and (rarely) disagree with you on this one Dutchy. Let it go buddy....
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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby FlyingHigh » Thu Dec 17, 2009 12:11 pm

mal wrote:I wonder who will open the bowling this morning
SARWAN + GAYLE
No doubt if that was the case SARWAN would be bowling into the wind

Fair dinkum
Will ROACH bowl with the wind today ?


I was wondering if they were trying to teach Roach into becoming more of a thinking bowler who did not relying solely on pace - but first day at the WACA on the back of a good personal series :roll: :roll: . Maybe if the Aussies were 200+ ahead on the first innings and WI were trying to restrict runs.
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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby Booney » Thu Dec 17, 2009 12:11 pm

Dutchy wrote:...this bloke gets so many starts ...


Correct. End of discussion.
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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby The Jack » Thu Dec 17, 2009 1:13 pm

Without wanting to put the mockers on him...

COME ON HUSSEY!!!!!!
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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby The Jack » Thu Dec 17, 2009 1:24 pm

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