Team for Perth

[wycbloods]

Shane Warne wasn't Shane Warne when he started out either but he grew with experience in playing against the best in the world.

yes but he started out as a specialist leg-spinner, not a batsman who can bowl leg-spin (ie, not a batting allrounder). I am not seeing anything to suggest Smith will ever be a test standard leg-spinner and if he bats 4 for NSW I think he's a batsman first. I don't think we can compare Smith's potential to Warne. If we are going to try on a project leg-spinner why not O'Keefe if he is a bowler first?

O'Keefe can't get a game ahead of Hauritz or Smith so why should he play for Australia.

Smith can bowl, it is just about him bowling a heap more and that will happen the quickest at the highest level as State captains don't know how to use spinners especially as most pitches don't offer them much.

[Hondo]

O'Keefe can't get a game ahead of Hauritz or Smith so why should he play for Australia.

Smith can bowl, it is just about him bowling a heap more and that will happen the quickest at the highest level as State captains don't know how to use spinners especially as most pitches don't offer them much.

I agree on O'Keefe. I was just using him as an example of a better prospect as a project spinner as it's his specialty. I worry that Smith is being promoted as the next Warnie and we are trying to manufacture a leg-spinner out of a batting allrounder. I think you need to do more than just bowl leg-spin to play for Australia. And I don't think test caps should be gifted to players for the one to X? years it may take Smith to get up to speed. Do you think he's that good?

The fact that Hauritz is the first choice specialist spinner for NSW (and Smith bats middle order) probably means we are over complicating it by even considering the two leggies. Why would the Australian team have a state team's second or third choice spinner? If it were me I'd just bring back Hauritz.

[carey]

as stupid as this may sound does hauritz ton help his selection in the aussie side? the reason i ask this is he was dropped for not taking wickets or threating to therfore hitting a ton doesnt really turn his form around with the ball now does it?

adding to that smith took 4 fa does that place him ahead of hauritz?

and with that said the aussies were rolled for 245 in a day so????

[wycbloods]

O'Keefe can't get a game ahead of Hauritz or Smith so why should he play for Australia.

Smith can bowl, it is just about him bowling a heap more and that will happen the quickest at the highest level as State captains don't know how to use spinners especially as most pitches don't offer them much.

I agree on O'Keefe. I was just using him as an example of a better prospect as a project spinner as it's his specialty. I worry that Smith is being promoted as the next Warnie and we are trying to manufacture a leg-spinner out of a batting allrounder. I think you need to do more than just bowl leg-spin to play for Australia. And I don't think test caps should be gifted to players for the one to X? years it may take Smith to get up to speed. Do you think he's that good?

The fact that Hauritz is the first choice specialist spinner for NSW (and Smith bats middle order) probably means we are over complicating it by even considering the two leggies. Why would the Australian team have a state team's second or third choice spinner? If it were me I'd just bring back Hauritz.

O'Keefe isn't a leggie either, he is a left arm finger spinner.

[Hondo]

O'Keefe isn't a leggie either, he is a left arm finger spinner.

Yes, sorry. Still, he's a specialist spinner that's my point.

[Hondo]

as stupid as this may sound does hauritz ton help his selection in the aussie side? the reason i ask this is he was dropped for not taking wickets or threating to therfore hitting a ton doesnt really turn his form around with the ball now does it?

adding to that smith took 4 fa does that place him ahead of hauritz?

If 4 wickets v SA in one innings is enough then pick Henriques!

[Rik E Boy]

Hauritz
Hauritz
Haurtiz
Haurtiz
Hussey
Hauritz
Haddin
Hauritz
Haurtiz
Haurtiz
Huaritz

12th Haurtiz

Bloody easy this selectin lark.

regards,

REB

[carey]

as stupid as this may sound does hauritz ton help his selection in the aussie side? the reason i ask this is he was dropped for not taking wickets or threating to therfore hitting a ton doesnt really turn his form around with the ball now does it?

adding to that smith took 4 fa does that place him ahead of hauritz?

If 4 wickets v SA in one innings is enough then pick Henriques!

point taken 4 fa against SA is hardly great form given that state SA cricket in at the moment.

[Gozu]

Watson
Hughes
Ponting
Hodge
Clarke
Hussey
Haddin
Hauritz
Harris
Hilfenhaus
Bollinger

Hughes in for Katich. Brad Hodge in for North. I know Hodge isn't playing FC cricket anymore but the guy thinks he's a gun, the series is effectively over anyway and he's made a double century in Test cricket at the WACA before. If he swims, great if he sinks then staple his lips together for the rest of his career. Hauritz in for Doherty, no brainer and took 7 wickets last week at the WACA but will Hilditch admit he f__ked up, again? Hilf in for Siddle. Won't happen but Siddle is just a poor man's Harris and has gone for about 0/200 in England's last two innings so I in the interest of some variety would pick Hilfenhaus.

[whufc]

Will never ever ever ever ever happen but me personally

Watson
Hughes
Ponting
Clarke
Hussey
Khawaja
Haddin
Warne
Siddle
Hilfenhaus
Bollinger

[lion heart]

Hauritz should get a run as a speciallist batsman on current form.

110 not out

[Jim05]

I know you are probably sick of me banging on about okeefe but i am a little biased as i saw his debut shield game in sydney. Lets get some facts out the way
- NSW will not play 3 spinners. Hauritz only recently dropped from aus and smith touted as the new warne so yes both of them will play before okeefe.
BUT lets look at 1st class stats

M W Ave Econ S/R
Doherty 37 87 50.11 3.45 86.9
Hauritz 65 151 42.18 3.05 82.8
Smith 19 33 50.54 3.89 77.8
Okeefe 10 37 24.83 3.12 47.6

Batting wise doherty and hauritz average mid teens, smith at low 40's and okeefe at 51.
Add to that okeefe top scored against poms in tour game in hobart and was leading wicket taker.
Okeefe also has a 7 fa against sri lanka A
I know who i would have in my team first

I know

[Media Park]

Hauritz should get a run as a speciallist batsman on current form.

110 not out

Can take Marcus North's part time spinner slot too...

[Bulls forever]

ALL, the one thing we can take out of this is, and NO, I do not like Andrew Hilditch, is that there are about 99 different teams posted on this thread and opinions have varied, etc. etc. etc. Whatever team we put on the park in Perth, lets just home they show a bit more fight that they did in Adelaide, that really was un Australian. I give it three years before we are back to No 1 in the Test arena.

Go you Aussies.

[carey]

ALL, the one thing we can take out of this is, and NO, I do not like Andrew Hilditch, is that there are about 99 different teams posted on this thread and opinions have varied, etc. etc. etc. Whatever team we put on the park in Perth, lets just home they show a bit more fight that they did in Adelaide, that really was un Australian. I give it three years before we are back to No 1 in the Test arena.
Go you Aussies.

back to number1 in 3 years thats is a huge cal,l from 5th ATM.....

[NFC]

With this team, #1 in 3 years I reckon isn't a half bad call!!

1. Hughes
2. Watson
3. Khawaja
4. Clarke
5. Ferguson
6. Smith
7. Paine
8. SOK
9. Pattinson
10. Starc
11. Hazlewood

Gunnage.

[carey]

very light in bowlers but solid batting line up still not so sure about #1 in 3 years tho

[NFC]

very light in bowlers but solid batting line up still not so sure about #1 in 3 years tho

Those 3 quicks are all of HUGE potential. All are 19 or 20, that's exciting.

[carey]

very light in bowlers but solid batting line up still not so sure about #1 in 3 years tho

Those 3 quicks are all of HUGE potential. All are 19 or 20, that's exciting.

agreed.

but i guess its very hard to judge how they'll be in 3 years.

[Bulls forever]

Congratulations must go to "Beeroclock" a regular poster on these forums. We obviously won't here from him, he will be busy practising, match the face to the name, so that he can call all his new team mates by their correct names. We can now do away with our Shield and other first class comps, just let them play Grade cricket and pick them from there.

Who is Michael BEER - our next Shane Warne!!!!!!