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Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:07 am
by Aerie
They should dump the ryobi cup (or play in April or something) and start the Sheffield Shield season early next year. Give the players across the country 5 or 6 games before the 1st Test. Pick the best 6 in form. You couldn’t make a strong case for any of the top 6 to be a certain starter.

Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:20 am
by DOC
Pick the team on form in the right format? Thats a novel idea. It won't catch on.

Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:29 am
by bennymacca
Aerie wrote:They should dump the ryobi cup (or play in April or something) and start the Sheffield Shield season early next year. Give the players across the country 5 or 6 games before the 1st Test. Pick the best 6 in form. You couldn’t make a strong case for any of the top 6 to be a certain starter.


Agreed. Play most of the shield games before Christmas, then you could play the one day Comp straight after the big bash if you wanted to coincide with when we usually play one day internationals

Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:33 am
by whufc
bennymacca wrote:
Aerie wrote:They should dump the ryobi cup (or play in April or something) and start the Sheffield Shield season early next year. Give the players across the country 5 or 6 games before the 1st Test. Pick the best 6 in form. You couldn’t make a strong case for any of the top 6 to be a certain starter.


Agreed. Play most of the shield games before Christmas, then you could play the one day Comp straight after the big bash if you wanted to coincide with when we usually play one day internationals


I haven't looked at the fixtures and am being lazy but how would that affect are preparation the first away tour after the Australian summer

Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 12:05 pm
by Jim05
Aerie wrote:They should dump the ryobi cup (or play in April or something) and start the Sheffield Shield season early next year. Give the players across the country 5 or 6 games before the 1st Test. Pick the best 6 in form. You couldn’t make a strong case for any of the top 6 to be a certain starter.

Think it would interfere with our International series. Play the Pakis in ODI’s and T20 in the UAE during October and then come straight back to Australia for ODI and T20 series against the Saffers which leads into November and then the tests against India start almost straight away

Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 12:07 pm
by daysofourlives
Grenville wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:
Grenville wrote:Sayers has bowled a hell of a lot better than 2/75. Will never be a walk up start at this level but in the right conditions can be damaging, a modern day Adam Dale.


**** me when did someone bowling 120km/hr pies become the pinnacle of ustralian bowling? If it was Hastings you blokes would be all over him. Hes ******* average at best, a couple tests in england is the besthe can hope for, hes no Alderman but
Take your one eyed redbacks glasses off, dud at this level


I said he in my opinion bowled better than his figures reflected, would not be a walk up start and in the right conditions could be damaging. Maybe put your fu***g reading glasses on.


Sorry Gren wasnt just directed at you, plenty of others were all over him and reckon he was going all right. And i did agree with you, couple Tests in England is the best he could ever hope for now but no where near the ability of Alderman who was our last decent swing bowler

Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 12:10 pm
by whufc
@days

Fleming was no mug

Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 12:11 pm
by daysofourlives
whufc wrote:@days

Fleming was no mug


Yeah true, how many tests? Was always injured if i recall correctly

Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 12:16 pm
by whufc
daysofourlives wrote:
whufc wrote:@days

Fleming was no mug


Yeah true, how many tests? Was always injured if i recall correctly


20 tests 75 wickets at 25 including a test hat-trick

Definitely was hampered by injuries.

I felt he played a bit more than that tbh

Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 12:21 pm
by daysofourlives
whufc wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:
whufc wrote:@days

Fleming was no mug


Yeah true, how many tests? Was always injured if i recall correctly


20 tests 75 wickets at 25 including a test hat-trick

Definitely was hampered by injuries.

I felt he played a bit more than that tbh


I reckon most of them were overseas to. The Warne dropped catch in adelaide would have given him 2 hatties

Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:48 pm
by Grenville
whufc wrote:@days

Fleming was no mug


I reckon Fleming would have been a few kms quicker than Sayers which made him more effective.

Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:49 pm
by Grenville
daysofourlives wrote:
Grenville wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:
Grenville wrote:Sayers has bowled a hell of a lot better than 2/75. Will never be a walk up start at this level but in the right conditions can be damaging, a modern day Adam Dale.


**** me when did someone bowling 120km/hr pies become the pinnacle of ustralian bowling? If it was Hastings you blokes would be all over him. Hes ******* average at best, a couple tests in england is the besthe can hope for, hes no Alderman but
Take your one eyed redbacks glasses off, dud at this level


I said he in my opinion bowled better than his figures reflected, would not be a walk up start and in the right conditions could be damaging. Maybe put your fu***g reading glasses on.


Sorry Gren wasnt just directed at you, plenty of others were all over him and reckon he was going all right. And i did agree with you, couple Tests in England is the best he could ever hope for now but no where near the ability of Alderman who was our last decent swing bowler


Fair enough lad, play on.

Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 2:15 pm
by am Bays
Grenville wrote:
whufc wrote:@days

Fleming was no mug


I reckon Fleming would have been a few kms quicker than Sayers which made him more effective.


Yep started as a fast bowler with a hair halfway down his back rock guitar god styles in the late 80s.

The bowlology skills came late but he was still able to send it down at 130.

Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 5:58 pm
by locky801
Think S.A. would declare this morning, lead of 401 already, wonder how long we can last into the day

Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 6:00 pm
by daysofourlives
locky801 wrote:Think S.A. would declare this morning, lead of 401 already, wonder how long we can last into the day


Thats how Australia would play it but the saffers will want to get 500 in front, theyre always thinking make sure we cant lose first then go for the win. Id even be surprised if they declared before lunch

Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 6:41 pm
by batmanbegins
daysofourlives wrote:
locky801 wrote:Think S.A. would declare this morning, lead of 401 already, wonder how long we can last into the day


Thats how Australia would play it but the saffers will want to get 500 in front, theyre always thinking make sure we cant lose first then go for the win. Id even be surprised if they declared before lunch


Why would they give the aussies the slightest chance? In this case i think there better off being conservative and just batting as they already lead the series, especially with morkel out injured for the second innings.

Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 6:43 pm
by locky801
batmanbegins wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:
locky801 wrote:Think S.A. would declare this morning, lead of 401 already, wonder how long we can last into the day


Thats how Australia would play it but the saffers will want to get 500 in front, theyre always thinking make sure we cant lose first then go for the win. Id even be surprised if they declared before lunch


Why would they give the aussies the slightest chance? In this case i think there better off being conservative and just batting as they already lead the series, especially with morkel out injured for the second innings.



slightest chance, they are 400 in front, way our batting is will be lucky to make 200

Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:00 pm
by bennymacca
the only way we can possibly square the series is if they give us a sporting declaration.

i would bat 1.5 sessions today and get 500+ in front, and have 5.5 sessions to bowl Australia out

Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:03 pm
by Corona Man
bennymacca wrote:the only way we can possibly square the series is if they give us a sporting declaration.

i would bat 1.5 sessions today and get 500+ in front, and have 5.5 sessions to bowl Australia out

Id be making the Aussies stay in the field for as long as I could. They just want to come home I reckon, so the Saffers can inflict some serious mental disintegration here. We deserve it too.

Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:08 pm
by bennymacca
Bad light has stopped play. I had not considered the weather, that may throw a spanner in the works and may see an earlier declaration