4th Test: India v Australia at Nagpur

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Re: 4th Test: India v Australia at Nagpur

Postby FD88 » Thu Nov 06, 2008 8:51 pm

We just dropped Tendulkar off Krejza....again. Lee this time but it was a tougher chance.
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Re: 4th Test: India v Australia at Nagpur

Postby rod_rooster » Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:00 pm

At Test level neither of the 2 dropped catches were tough chances. Lee's drop was the tougher of the 2 but he did all the hard work by getting into perfect position then the easy part he stuffed up. It is unacceptable to put down chances like those two.
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Re: 4th Test: India v Australia at Nagpur

Postby rod_rooster » Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:41 pm

Johnson gets Tendulkar LBW for 109. Good bowling but he needed that to make up for the dropped catch. Luckily Tendulkar didn't really make Australia pay after being dropped on 85 and 96.
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Re: 4th Test: India v Australia at Nagpur

Postby Pag » Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:09 pm

Just on the crowd, the commentators said earlier on in the day that the crowd would probably be down due to the new stadium only selling 5-day tickets. Did they honestly think people would buy a five-day ticket if they're only going to go to one or two days?

The BCCI are a bunch of idiots for letting it happen. Almost as stupid as our selectors.
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Re: 4th Test: India v Australia at Nagpur

Postby jackpot jim » Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:59 pm

Pag wrote:Just on the crowd, the commentators said earlier on in the day that the crowd would probably be down due to the new stadium only selling 5-day tickets. Did they honestly think people would buy a five-day ticket if they're only going to go to one or two days?

The BCCI are a bunch of idiots for letting it happen. Almost as stupid as our selectors.


Yeah, heard the commentators say the same thing about the 5 day tickets and u couldn't buy single day tickets. Sounds very strange but i suppose what we dont know is the price of those tickets. maybe they were the price of a single days ticket and it entitled u to all 5 days to encourage crowds. whatever the arrangement was , it didn't work.
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Re: 4th Test: India v Australia at Nagpur

Postby jackpot jim » Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:02 pm

cyclops wrote:Someone please tell me how the hell test cricket is going to get crowds coming thru the gates when we are playing on pitches like this in India.This is an absolute f##n disgrace,its so f##n boring id rather watch a game of netball.Australia seems to be the only country in the world that actually offers something for the batters,fast bowlers and the spinners.Surely the icc should have the power to do something about this or we might as well just watch 20/20 cricket all the time.f##n indian little cheats.f#k it gives me the sh#ts nowing the team that wins the toss is going to bat for the majority of day 1 and 2.TEST CRICKET WILL DIE IF THIS CONTINUES.We need to be realistic bout this if the indian crowds wont go to home games then surely thats sayn sumthing.The last tour there every day was sold out and they were all jumpn around like monkeys.


Great post cyclops.
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Re: 4th Test: India v Australia at Nagpur

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Fri Nov 07, 2008 5:59 am

cyclops wrote:TEST CRICKET WILL DIE IF THIS CONTINUES.


Has anyone considered this is exactly what the BCCI want to happen?

They have no regard for Test cricket around the world, placing emphasis on that stupid 20/20 game instead, and poaching players away from representing their countries.

The BCCI are a runaway train, and unless they are pulled into line very soon, you may as well bury Test Cricket in the back yard.
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Re: 4th Test: India v Australia at Nagpur

Postby Rik E Boy » Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:26 am

cyclops wrote:Someone please tell me how the hell test cricket is going to get crowds coming thru the gates when we are playing on pitches like this in India.This is an absolute f##n disgrace,its so f##n boring id rather watch a game of netball.Australia seems to be the only country in the world that actually offers something for the batters,fast bowlers and the spinners.Surely the icc should have the power to do something about this or we might as well just watch 20/20 cricket all the time.f##n indian little cheats.f#k it gives me the sh#ts nowing the team that wins the toss is going to bat for the majority of day 1 and 2.TEST CRICKET WILL DIE IF THIS CONTINUES.We need to be realistic bout this if the indian crowds wont go to home games then surely thats sayn sumthing.The last tour there every day was sold out and they were all jumpn around like monkeys.


at 5 for 311 it is possible that India won't bat all day today (here's hoping). Having groundsmen prepare wickets that suit the home side is nothing new, particularly on the subcontinent. If you want to watch netball, or worse Teeball feel free as it your ticket money that will help subsidise Test Cricket in the long run. You wouldn't be half as angry if Australia won the toss so this 'test cricket is in jeopardy' stance seems to be a little on the nose for mine.

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Re: 4th Test: India v Australia at Nagpur

Postby Rik E Boy » Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:30 am

Adelaide Hawk wrote:
cyclops wrote:TEST CRICKET WILL DIE IF THIS CONTINUES.


Has anyone considered this is exactly what the BCCI want to happen?

They have no regard for Test cricket around the world, placing emphasis on that stupid 20/20 game instead, and poaching players away from representing their countries.

The BCCI are a runaway train, and unless they are pulled into line very soon, you may as well bury Test Cricket in the back yard.


Spot on.

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Re: 4th Test: India v Australia at Nagpur

Postby MAY-Z » Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:53 am

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cyclops wrote:Someone please tell me how the hell test cricket is going to get crowds coming thru the gates when we are playing on pitches like this in India.This is an absolute f##n disgrace,its so f##n boring id rather watch a game of netball.Australia seems to be the only country in the world that actually offers something for the batters,fast bowlers and the spinners.Surely the icc should have the power to do something about this or we might as well just watch 20/20 cricket all the time.f##n indian little cheats.f#k it gives me the sh#ts nowing the team that wins the toss is going to bat for the majority of day 1 and 2.TEST CRICKET WILL DIE IF THIS CONTINUES.We need to be realistic bout this if the indian crowds wont go to home games then surely thats sayn sumthing.The last tour there every day was sold out and they were all jumpn around like monkeys.


at 5 for 311 it is possible that India won't bat all day today (here's hoping). Having groundsmen prepare wickets that suit the home side is nothing new, particularly on the subcontinent. If you want to watch netball, or worse Teeball feel free as it your ticket money that will help subsidise Test Cricket in the long run. You wouldn't be half as angry if Australia won the toss so this 'test cricket is in jeopardy' stance seems to be a little on the nose for mine.

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good respense reb, 5 for 311 is a very even days cricket, if a couple of chances were taken australia could be in an even better position- unless dhoni and ganguly bat well india wil probably be bowled out around 400 which is reasonably even.

if australian pitches offered anything for spinners we may see more spinners actually getting games for their state and actually taking wickets.
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Re: 4th Test: India v Australia at Nagpur

Postby Hondo » Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:07 am

All this expert opinion by SAFooty's armchair selectors prompted me to get the bowling stats for Aust this series:

Johnson 13 wickets at 36.08
Siddle 4 wickets at 44.00
Watson 6 wickets at 45.33
Krezja 3 wickets at 46.00
Lee 7 wickets at 64.29 :shock:
White 5 wickets at 65.40
Katich 1 wicket 73.00
S Clark 1 wicket at 80.50 :shock:
M Clarke 2 wickets at 113.50

But, hey, lets single out White and Watto for blame, lets play 4 quicks, or (even worse) let's use Katich and Clarke as front line spinners :roll:

My point? White was never the 1st choice for this tour but is playing because McGain is injured. The above stats show definitely that we need to play a spinner of some description. White may never play again but lets not hold him responsible for what's been a very trying series for our bowlers, particularly our quicks (Johnson aside).
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Re: 4th Test: India v Australia at Nagpur

Postby Lightning McQueen » Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:32 am

cyclops wrote:Someone please tell me how the hell test cricket is going to get crowds coming thru the gates when we are playing on pitches like this in India.This is an absolute f##n disgrace,its so f##n boring id rather watch a game of netball.Australia seems to be the only country in the world that actually offers something for the batters,fast bowlers and the spinners.Surely the icc should have the power to do something about this or we might as well just watch 20/20 cricket all the time.f##n indian little cheats.f#k it gives me the sh#ts nowing the team that wins the toss is going to bat for the majority of day 1 and 2.TEST CRICKET WILL DIE IF THIS CONTINUES.We need to be realistic bout this if the indian crowds wont go to home games then surely thats sayn sumthing.The last tour there every day was sold out and they were all jumpn around like monkeys.


Everyone does it, look at the kiwi's, they play seamers all of the time to suit their pitches, we play 4 quicks at Perth. Our problem is that we don't have the bowling attack to be able to bowl the Indians out cheaply enough, they seem to be able to get us out.

Maybe they should look at tests going to 6 days, we look like sooks if we whinge every time we look like getting beaten, we haven't blooded enough youth over the past years when we were the dominant team in the world.
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Re: 4th Test: India v Australia at Nagpur

Postby Rik E Boy » Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:54 am

hondo71 wrote:All this expert opinion by SAFooty's armchair selectors prompted me to get the bowling stats for Aust this series:

Johnson 13 wickets at 36.08
Siddle 4 wickets at 44.00
Watson 6 wickets at 45.33
Krezja 3 wickets at 46.00
Lee 7 wickets at 64.29 :shock:
White 5 wickets at 65.40
Katich 1 wicket 73.00
S Clark 1 wicket at 80.50 :shock:
M Clarke 2 wickets at 113.50

But, hey, lets single out White and Watto for blame, lets play 4 quicks, or (even worse) let's use Katich and Clarke as front line spinners :roll:

My point? White was never the 1st choice for this tour but is playing because McGain is injured. The above stats show definitely that we need to play a spinner of some description. White may never play again but lets not hold him responsible for what's been a very trying series for our bowlers, particularly our quicks (Johnson aside).


I'm not 'holding White responsible'. I am just pointing out that he is carp in spite of ardent love shown towards a monumentally mediocre Cricketer by the Cameron Shite appreciation society.

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Re: 4th Test: India v Australia at Nagpur

Postby westcoastpanther » Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:33 am

Watching him land those balls two foot outside off stump..... :roll: then when he bowled a decent line they were shelling peas.
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Re: 4th Test: India v Australia at Nagpur

Postby FD88 » Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:35 am

Yeah, the disappointing form of Lee and Clark has been a bigger issue than White's inclusion (or performance for that matter, which like it or not has been above expectations). If those two had come into this series switched on, we would not be down 1-0 atm. We have Mitch Johnson to thank for not having already lost the trophy.
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Re: 4th Test: India v Australia at Nagpur

Postby Lightning McQueen » Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:42 am

FD88 wrote:Yeah, the disappointing form of Lee and Clark has been a bigger issue than White's inclusion (or performance for that matter, which like it or not has been above expectations). If those two had come into this series switched on, we would not be down 1-0 atm. We have Mitch Johnson to thank for not having already lost the trophy.


Any peanut can bowl a foot outside off stump continuosly, hoping for the batsman to make the occaisional error in judgement, if he wasn't a left-armer he'd be poo.
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Re: 4th Test: India v Australia at Nagpur

Postby NFC » Fri Nov 07, 2008 1:15 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
FD88 wrote:Yeah, the disappointing form of Lee and Clark has been a bigger issue than White's inclusion (or performance for that matter, which like it or not has been above expectations). If those two had come into this series switched on, we would not be down 1-0 atm. We have Mitch Johnson to thank for not having already lost the trophy.


Any peanut can bowl a foot outside off stump continuosly, hoping for the batsman to make the occaisional error in judgement, if he wasn't a left-armer he'd be poo.

I tend to agree. I'm not saying it's his fault but he takes a lot of wickets from poor balls.
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Re: 4th Test: India v Australia at Nagpur

Postby Tooting Bec » Fri Nov 07, 2008 1:25 pm

Maybe it's time for Australia to suck it up and play backs to the wall cricket for a change. For too long we have been champions of the world in all formats of the game and have been able to play like it.
Now it's time for the ozzies to re-evaluate how we play cricket and not throw our wickets away and bowl the lines.

Yes Mitchell Johnson has the best average and the most wickets but i reckon 5 of those wickets came from catches down legside. If that is what you guys think is quality, we are in for a very long haul as a cricketing nation.
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Re: 4th Test: India v Australia at Nagpur

Postby Lightning McQueen » Fri Nov 07, 2008 1:55 pm

NFC wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
FD88 wrote:Yeah, the disappointing form of Lee and Clark has been a bigger issue than White's inclusion (or performance for that matter, which like it or not has been above expectations). If those two had come into this series switched on, we would not be down 1-0 atm. We have Mitch Johnson to thank for not having already lost the trophy.


Any peanut can bowl a foot outside off stump continuosly, hoping for the batsman to make the occaisional error in judgement, if he wasn't a left-armer he'd be poo.

I tend to agree. I'm not saying it's his fault but he takes a lot of wickets from poor balls.


I get very frustrated watching him, he does jag the odd lbw by putting every 95th delivery on the stumps and catches the batsman by surprise.
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Re: 4th Test: India v Australia at Nagpur

Postby Drop Bear » Fri Nov 07, 2008 2:21 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:I get very frustrated watching him, he does jag the odd lbw by putting every 95th delivery on the stumps and catches the batsman by surprise.


Like it or not though boys, he's been getting the break throughs the Aussies have needed.
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