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Corona Man wrote:

whufc wrote:

locky801 wrote:English reporter: "Is there such a thing, or do you believe in such a thing as the 'Spirit of Cricket'?"
Pat Cummins: "Yep."
English reporter: "Do you think after Bairstow's dismissal, which was within the letter of the law - no disputing that, but are we in danger of seeing 'mankads' or underarm bowling later on in this series?"
Pat Cummins: "It depends on how flat the wickets get, it might be an option to turn to."

Thats the thing.....there is no spirit of cricket anymore and to be honest nearly all professional sports have lost their 'spirit' or intention.

No team is better than the other, look at how the aussies carried on with the Starc catch despite the rule being clear that it wasnt a catch. You can bet your bottom $$$ if we had lost that test it would be our cricketers whinging about the Starc decision and the 'spirit of the game'

BTW i do believe there is a place for the spirit of cricket......imo some of the rules just need a little retweak to be worded more appropriately to the intention of the rules given the $$$$$ in cricket now and the cutthroat nature of the sport.

In Bairstows case he clearly walked out his crease, we can debate the why he did that all day long but he clearly walked out the crease. What we dont want is keepers trying for them stumpings and blokes looking for mankads that are mm's in it. Last thing we want to watch is reviews where the third umpire is deciphering between mili seconds of an umpire saying 'over' and where the batsmen back heel is located at that point.

What over will it be when we see Bairstow have his first throw at the stumps in the next test.....?

The first over. Without a doubt.

whufc wrote:

am Bays wrote:Nah there is a spirit of cricket it’s just not this fanciful notion of artificial fairness and behaviours of an idealised 19th century playing fields of Gentlemanly England

It’s about playing within the laws of the game and accepting the umpires decision

That to me is the spirit of cricket in a nutshell.

That and having a beer after the game with your opponent win lose or draw to say well played

This one is long gone..... especially accepting the umpires decision, that has pretty much gone out the window since we introduced reviews. Look at the big nations, the carry on from Australia, England and India is terrible when stuff doesn't go there way.

Every country has been guilty of deliberating playing outside the laws of the game in modern cricket, Australia sandpapergate, England lollies etc.

But it is kind of my point. The rules need some tweaking with understanding in modern cricket that every inch will be taken if the rule isnt completely black or white.

England have spent the whole week trying to be the moral spirit of cricket good guys but you can guarantee whether in jest or not that Bairstow will have a crack at the stumps at some point this test.

gazzamagoo wrote:If Lyon was bowling, Bairstow wouldn't have gone for a walk.

All this will do is stir up the poms,
expect them to come out all fire and brimstone now,
this next test will be very hard for us to win.

amber_fluid wrote:Both tests could have gone either way but we played our best when it mattered.
I can see the Poms winning the 3rd test though as they’re good side and will want to keep the ashes alive here.

am Bays wrote:

whufc wrote:

am Bays wrote:Nah there is a spirit of cricket it’s just not this fanciful notion of artificial fairness and behaviours of an idealised 19th century playing fields of Gentlemanly England

It’s about playing within the laws of the game and accepting the umpires decision

That to me is the spirit of cricket in a nutshell.

That and having a beer after the game with your opponent win lose or draw to say well played

This one is long gone..... especially accepting the umpires decision, that has pretty much gone out the window since we introduced reviews. Look at the big nations, the carry on from Australia, England and India is terrible when stuff doesn't go there way.

Every country has been guilty of deliberating playing outside the laws of the game in modern cricket, Australia sandpapergate, England lollies etc.

But it is kind of my point. The rules need some tweaking with understanding in modern cricket that every inch will be taken if the rule isnt completely black or white.

England have spent the whole week trying to be the moral spirit of cricket good guys but you can guarantee whether in jest or not that Bairstow will have a crack at the stumps at some point this test.

I dont necessarily disagree with that but I think that's what the spirit is, accepting the umpires decision and it's easy to do. You don't have to like it, you can respectfully ask questions like Cummins did after Starc's catch was ruled not out but ultimately that's what you have to do.

And at test level if the umpire makes a mistake after you've burned your reviews like Broad at Trent Bridge in 2013 and Stokes at Headingly in 2019 well that the fieldings teams issue not the umpires.

woodublieve12 wrote:Seriously, how good is test cricket?!?!?! Saying that, i am sick to death of the saying "spirit of cricket". Barstow was out. Mankad if the batsmen are leaving the crease and you aren't obliged to walk. If players want to push the boundaries, be grown up enough to accept the consequences

whufc wrote:2 from 2 trying to pick the team the selectors will go with.

IMO the third test side will be....

Khawaja
Warner
Labuschagne
Smith
Head
Green
Carey
Cummins
Starc
Boland
Murphy

Hazelwood played two tests on returning from injury surely won't be expected to now play back to back tests. Whilst not at his absolute best Boland is still ahead of Neser. Selectors to pick a genuine spinner.

MW wrote:

gazzamagoo wrote:If Lyon was bowling, Bairstow wouldn't have gone for a walk.

All this will do is stir up the poms,
expect them to come out all fire and brimstone now,
this next test will be very hard for us to win.

Can't play like you're angry for 5 days. Will work in our favour i reckon. Sure they will have sessions where they get the crowd up and dominate, but over 5 days can't sustain it.

MW wrote:

gazzamagoo wrote:If Lyon was bowling, Bairstow wouldn't have gone for a walk.

All this will do is stir up the poms,
expect them to come out all fire and brimstone now,
this next test will be very hard for us to win.

Can't play like you're angry for 5 days. Will work in our favour i reckon. Sure they will have sessions where they get the crowd up and dominate, but over 5 days can't sustain it.

gazzamagoo wrote:If Lyon was bowling, Bairstow wouldn't have gone for a walk.

All this will do is stir up the poms,
expect them to come out all fire and brimstone now,
this next test will be very hard for us to win.

stan wrote:

MW wrote:

gazzamagoo wrote:If Lyon was bowling, Bairstow wouldn't have gone for a walk.

All this will do is stir up the poms,
expect them to come out all fire and brimstone now,
this next test will be very hard for us to win.

Can't play like you're angry for 5 days. Will work in our favour i reckon. Sure they will have sessions where they get the crowd up and dominate, but over 5 days can't sustain it.

Isn't that what BAZBALL BAZBALL IS ALL ABOUR GET UP AND ABOUT SMASH BALLS A BABALLLLLLL **** THE WICKETS SMASH BALLLLLLLLS.

Yeah in say AFL you can get up and about. But in cricket it will just stuff your game up.

What are they going to do? Bowl short shit all day. Ok, that's cool we just have to be more patient and let them bowl it.