Australian Domestic Season 2024/25

[Armchair expert]

Final squads

South Australia: Nathan McSweeney (c), Jordan Buckingham, Alex Carey, Brendan Doggett, Henry Hunt, Jake Lehmann, Ben Manenti, Nathan McAndrew, Conor McInerney, Harry Nielsen, Lloyd Pope, Jason Sangha, Liam Scott, Henry Thornton.

Queensland: Marnus Labuschagne (c), Jack Clayton, Lachlan Hearne, Usman Khawaja, Angus Lovell, Ben McDermott, Michael Neser, Jimmy Peirson, Matthew Renshaw, Mark Steketee, Tom Straker, Mitchell Swepson, Callum Vidler, Jack Wildermuth.

[shoe boy]

I am aware the final is over 5 days but did not know restriction on overs?

I was informed each side 90 overs? I thought if you could bat for 5 days so be it?

[Down the Hill]

Sack your sources Shoe Boy. The main difference with Shield Finals these days is the home team drawing the game is not enough to win the shield. If there is no outright result the winner is declared based on the team with the highest bonus points in the match calculated the same way as the home and away shield games. I stand corrected but the bonus points are based on wickets and runs in the first 100 overs of both teams first innings. I might let others explain the exact nuances of how points are collected.

[Lightning McQueen]

I am aware the final is over 5 days but did not know restriction on overs?

I was informed each side 90 overs? I thought if you could bat for 5 days so be it?

The game would forcibly end at the completion of day 4 using that theorem.

[Brodlach]

Took this out of “storage” in lieu of the Final tomorrow

Original photo of the scoreboard from our last Shield win.

All signed by the players and the great Nugget Rees.

Hoping sharing it brings some extra luck.




Forget how good that Western Australian team was.

[Armchair expert]

Sack your sources Shoe Boy. The main difference with Shield Finals these days is the home team drawing the game is not enough to win the shield. If there is no outright result the winner is declared based on the team with the highest bonus points in the match calculated the same way as the home and away shield games. I stand corrected but the bonus points are based on wickets and runs in the first 100 overs of both teams first innings. I might let others explain the exact nuances of how points are collected.

Correct

Basically any wicket in the first 100 overs is .1 point
For the batting side any runs over 200 is .01 point in the first 100 overs so 350 in 100 overs is 1.5 point

[Down the Hill]

To help me with explaining this to mates who keep asking me. AE or any others on here. If the game ends in a Draw and to keep things simple let's assume both teams bat more than 100 overs in their 1st innings.

If Team 1 is 8/320 at 100 overs and Team 2 is 5/300 at 100 overs then Team 1 has 1.7 points and Team 2 has 1.8 points.

So even if Team 1 ends up with All Out 400 and Team 2 is All Out 375 and regardless of what may happen in any 2nd innings (without an outright being achieved) - it will all come back to those points at 100 overs. Therefore Team 2 wins the Sheffield Shield.

Is this correct?

[Armchair expert]

Yes that is correct, its only the first 100 overs that matter if a draw is the result.

[The Bedge]

That's good in the fact it promotes positive cricket, but poor in the fact that a decent day for a side could win them the shield.

SA have been the best side all year, and won more games than everyone else, there should be an advantage to that i.e. draw wins.

[Down the Hill]

This could get interesting for the majority who don't have a clue about the bonus points system which included me until the last 24 hours. If we get a scenario similar to what I've presented and SA are Team 1 then I can already hear the KG's etc of this world going completely troppo.

[Eagles2014]

This could get interesting for the majority who don't have a clue about the bonus points system which included me until the last 24 hours. If we get a scenario similar to what I've presented and SA are Team 1 then I can already hear the KG's etc of this world going completely troppo.

Is it better to bat 2nd so you can control the bonus points better? Like QLD did last week to make sure they got enough batting points to get above Victoria.
Ryan Harris said last week he is still trying to get his head around the best way to attack this, am sure both teams will have a plan.

[The Bedge]

This could get interesting for the majority who don't have a clue about the bonus points system which included me until the last 24 hours. If we get a scenario similar to what I've presented and SA are Team 1 then I can already hear the KG's etc of this world going completely troppo.

Is it better to bat 2nd so you can control the bonus points better? Like QLD did last week to make sure they got enough batting points to get above Victoria.
Ryan Harris said last week he is still trying to get his head around the best way to attack this, am sure both teams will have a plan.

Bat first, score big, back our bowlers to take 20 wickets.

[spell_check]

To help me with explaining this to mates who keep asking me. AE or any others on here. If the game ends in a Draw and to keep things simple let's assume both teams bat more than 100 overs in their 1st innings.

If Team 1 is 8/320 at 100 overs and Team 2 is 5/300 at 100 overs then Team 1 has 1.7 points and Team 2 has 1.8 points.

So even if Team 1 ends up with All Out 400 and Team 2 is All Out 375 and regardless of what may happen in any 2nd innings (without an outright being achieved) - it will all come back to those points at 100 overs. Therefore Team 2 wins the Sheffield Shield.

Is this correct?

Yes, I made that point earlier on, you can score less in the first innings and still win the Shield, based on this. Although, this won't apply in sunny Adelaide, 270 completed overs must be bowled for the match for this to take effect. Otherwise, the host/first place will get the title.

[tigerpie]

That's good in the fact it promotes positive cricket, but poor in the fact that a decent day for a side could win them the shield.

SA have been the best side all year, and won more games than everyone else, there should be an advantage to that i.e. draw wins.

The prize for coming top is a home final.
Batting for 2 days on a road to play for a draw is boring cricket.
Like the100 over limit.

[Down the Hill]

But now a ‘home’ final compromised by an Australian and Global cricket fixture and a mid March start for the AFL that didn’t exist when the SS final started. The circus of finals venues over the last 15 years would never have been considered back in the 80’s. Do we go back to first past the post. In many years the last round of matches is still a decider for who finishes first. It’s a 6 team comp that plays 10 matches each. Do we really need a final in the environment that now exists? Do we think less of our titles in 81/82, 75/76 and the KG era without a final.

[Armchair expert]

Do we really need a final in the environment that now exists?

Very simple dth we win = yes we lose = no

[tigerpie]

Yes the two top teams should get to play to decide the winner.
And the AFL prepare their season around the shield final.
It's not that difficult. Have the byes around shield final time.

[tigerpie]

With this new Brisbane stadium does that mean no more tests at the Gabba?
So much history at the ground, from back when they had the dog track.
Watching Warny go through teams for me is a lasting memory.
Great bounce and carry for the quicks.
Perfect pitch I reckon.

[Jim05]

With this new Brisbane stadium does that mean no more tests at the Gabba?
So much history at the ground, from back when they had the dog track.
Watching Warny go through teams for me is a lasting memory.
Great bounce and carry for the quicks.
Perfect pitch I reckon.

No one goes to the Gabba tests anyway. Place is a dump for football and cricket

[The Dark Knight]

Final squads

South Australia: Nathan McSweeney (c), Jordan Buckingham, Alex Carey, Brendan Doggett, Henry Hunt, Jake Lehmann, Ben Manenti, Nathan McAndrew, Conor McInerney, Harry Nielsen, Lloyd Pope, Jason Sangha, Liam Scott, Henry Thornton.

Queensland: Marnus Labuschagne (c), Jack Clayton, Lachlan Hearne, Usman Khawaja, Angus Lovell, Ben McDermott, Michael Neser, Jimmy Peirson, Matthew Renshaw, Mark Steketee, Tom Straker, Mitchell Swepson, Callum Vidler, Jack Wildermuth.

McSweeney said today that Pope won't play as SA will opt for an extra seamer instead of the leg spinner.
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