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Re: 3rd dead Test Match, Aust v SAf @ SCG

Postby rod_rooster » Thu Jan 01, 2009 12:10 pm

Dutchy wrote:Bollinger :oops: Oh dear...are we in that much trouble?

Almost a nil all draw with Katich as who is the biggest hack


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Re: 3rd dead Test Match, Aust v SAf @ SCG

Postby stan » Thu Jan 01, 2009 12:16 pm

Dutchy wrote:Bollinger :oops: Oh dear...are we in that much trouble?

Almost a nil all draw with Katich as who is the biggest hack


Mate Katich has been very good since his return to the team. As much of a hack he is, he is making runs and at the moment the really only solid opener we have.
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Re: 3rd dead Test Match, Aust v SAf @ SCG

Postby stan » Thu Jan 01, 2009 12:43 pm

Well heres the team I think will start against the South Africans:
1. Katich
2. Hayden
3. Ponting
4. Hussey
5. Clarke
6. McDonald
7. Haddin
8. Johnson
9. Hauritz
10. Siddle
11. Hilfenhaus

12. Bollinger

Hussey needs runs. Hayden should be on his last chance regardless.
Massive job for Johnson, has to really get things started and let Hilfenhaus fit into this grove.
McDonald, well good luck to him, im not sure if he will take many wickets, but hopefully he can be solid with the bat and hold up and end with the ball. McDonald's selection to me looks alot like the selection of Grant Elliot for the kiwis in that first test. The only problem is that Haurtiz does a similar role, obviously not been a seamer but holding up and end. Which means we need Johnson, Siddle and Hilfenhaus to take the majority of the wickets.
Also its good to see Ponting with some form, hopefully this continues.
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Re: 3rd dead Test Match, Aust v SAf @ SCG

Postby Dutchy » Thu Jan 01, 2009 12:46 pm

stan wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Bollinger :oops: Oh dear...are we in that much trouble?

Almost a nil all draw with Katich as who is the biggest hack


Mate Katich has been very good since his return to the team. As much of a hack he is, he is making runs and at the moment the really only solid opener we have.


I said we would struggle when he got the nod to open, our record is very poor since then isnt it? :?
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Re: 3rd dead Test Match, Aust v SAf @ SCG

Postby stan » Thu Jan 01, 2009 12:48 pm

Dutchy wrote:
stan wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Bollinger :oops: Oh dear...are we in that much trouble?

Almost a nil all draw with Katich as who is the biggest hack


Mate Katich has been very good since his return to the team. As much of a hack he is, he is making runs and at the moment the really only solid opener we have.


I said we would struggle when he got the nod to open, our record is very poor since then isnt it? :?


Yeah but hes making runs, so its probably not his fault. Hayden, Ponting, Hussey and Watson/Symonds have struggled as well.
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Re: 3rd dead Test Match, Aust v SAf @ SCG

Postby rod_rooster » Thu Jan 01, 2009 12:53 pm

Dutchy wrote:
stan wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Bollinger :oops: Oh dear...are we in that much trouble?

Almost a nil all draw with Katich as who is the biggest hack


Mate Katich has been very good since his return to the team. As much of a hack he is, he is making runs and at the moment the really only solid opener we have.


I said we would struggle when he got the nod to open, our record is very poor since then isnt it? :?


You can hardly blame Katich for our performances. He's been arguably our best performed batsman since he returned to the side. Hacks don't do what Katich has been able to do in Test cricket.
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Re: 3rd dead Test Match, Aust v SAf @ SCG

Postby FD88 » Thu Jan 01, 2009 12:58 pm

If Hilfenhaus plays I'm putting a few bucks down at the TAB for an Aussie win.
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Re: 3rd dead Test Match, Aust v SAf @ SCG

Postby stan » Thu Jan 01, 2009 1:04 pm

FD88 wrote:If Hilfenhaus plays I'm putting a few bucks down at the TAB for an Aussie win.


Easy there mate, its his first test, give him some time to find his feet.
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Re: 3rd dead Test Match, Aust v SAf @ SCG

Postby FD88 » Thu Jan 01, 2009 1:07 pm

stan wrote:
FD88 wrote:If Hilfenhaus plays I'm putting a few bucks down at the TAB for an Aussie win.


Easy there mate, its his first test, give him some time to find his feet.


Absolutely. I'm not expecting him to dominate, I just feel that in the last two tests we've gotten ourselves into winning positions but we've looked to an unfit Lee to give us enough to finish them off; the Hilf will be fit and that extra bit of output and variation will get us over the line I think. I should have worded my original post better.
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Re: 3rd dead Test Match, Aust v SAf @ SCG

Postby Dutchy » Thu Jan 01, 2009 1:29 pm

rod_rooster wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
stan wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Bollinger :oops: Oh dear...are we in that much trouble?

Almost a nil all draw with Katich as who is the biggest hack


Mate Katich has been very good since his return to the team. As much of a hack he is, he is making runs and at the moment the really only solid opener we have.


I said we would struggle when he got the nod to open, our record is very poor since then isnt it? :?


You can hardly blame Katich for our performances. He's been arguably our best performed batsman since he returned to the side. Hacks don't do what Katich has been able to do in Test cricket.


We need to develop batsmen that are going to win games for us, Katich wont, sure he might get his 50 or 60 off 150 balls but is that what the team needs?

Easy to look at his performances and say he has been solid, but will he win us games?...the answer is a resounding No

All the others that are out of form, have won games for us
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Re: 3rd dead Test Match, Aust v SAf @ SCG

Postby wycbloods » Thu Jan 01, 2009 1:49 pm

rod_rooster wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
stan wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Bollinger :oops: Oh dear...are we in that much trouble?

Almost a nil all draw with Katich as who is the biggest hack


Mate Katich has been very good since his return to the team. As much of a hack he is, he is making runs and at the moment the really only solid opener we have.


I said we would struggle when he got the nod to open, our record is very poor since then isnt it? :?


You can hardly blame Katich for our performances. He's been arguably our best performed batsman since he returned to the side. Hacks don't do what Katich has been able to do in Test cricket.


We need to develop batsmen that are going to win games for us, Katich wont, sure he might get his 50 or 60 off 150 balls but is that what the team needs?

Easy to look at his performances and say he has been solid, but will he win us games?...the answer is a resounding No

All the others that are out of form, have won games for us[/quote]

YES

That is a terrible post :roll: . Test matches are played over 5 days and to have a bloke like Katich, who places enormous value on his wicket, is vital to the team. His 50 or 60 off 150 balls enables others around him who can score more freely to do so knowing he is down the other end. I think the batting line up has just about the right balance with aggressive types, except for having Symonds followed by Haddin, and turtles, like Katich. I am sure that Katich making 60 in an innings will go a long way towards us winning games much more so than Hayden slogging his way to 20 and getting out. Katich has at least since his return made the bowlers earn his wicket more often than not. Hayden has been gifting wickets to bowlers for the last 7 or so tests he has played.
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Re: 3rd dead Test Match, Aust v SAf @ SCG

Postby am Bays » Thu Jan 01, 2009 2:10 pm

Sorry dutchy I 100% agree with wycbloods n this one. Noticed how the Saffers have been able to bat with discipline to build totals ( a la Katich) which gives their bowlers something to bowl at. if more of our batsmenn batted a bilt like the Kat we wouldn't be 2-zip down
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
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Re: 3rd dead Test Match, Aust v SAf @ SCG

Postby Dutchy » Thu Jan 01, 2009 2:22 pm

wycbloods wrote:That is a terrible post :roll: . Test matches are played over 5 days and to have a bloke like Katich, who places enormous value on his wicket, is vital to the team. His 50 or 60 off 150 balls enables others around him who can score more freely to do so knowing he is down the other end. I think the batting line up has just about the right balance with aggressive types, except for having Symonds followed by Haddin, and turtles, like Katich. I am sure that Katich making 60 in an innings will go a long way towards us winning games much more so than Hayden slogging his way to 20 and getting out. Katich has at least since his return made the bowlers earn his wicket more often than not. Hayden has been gifting wickets to bowlers for the last 7 or so tests he has played.


Ill agree when we start winning with Katich in the team, give me Jacques anyday

Did we not see the shot Katich got out to when we needed him to dig in on Monday?
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Re: 3rd dead Test Match, Aust v SAf @ SCG

Postby wycbloods » Thu Jan 01, 2009 5:15 pm

Dutchy wrote:
wycbloods wrote:That is a terrible post :roll: . Test matches are played over 5 days and to have a bloke like Katich, who places enormous value on his wicket, is vital to the team. His 50 or 60 off 150 balls enables others around him who can score more freely to do so knowing he is down the other end. I think the batting line up has just about the right balance with aggressive types, except for having Symonds followed by Haddin, and turtles, like Katich. I am sure that Katich making 60 in an innings will go a long way towards us winning games much more so than Hayden slogging his way to 20 and getting out. Katich has at least since his return made the bowlers earn his wicket more often than not. Hayden has been gifting wickets to bowlers for the last 7 or so tests he has played.


Ill agree when we start winning with Katich in the team, give me Jacques anyday

Did we not see the shot Katich got out to when we needed him to dig in on Monday?
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You can have him once he is fit again for Hayden ;) .

Yes he did play a poor shot in our second innings to be dismissed but that is a rarity with him whereas it is becoming the norm for Hayden. I don't think the strength of the side that Katich is playing in should reflect on his value to the side, look at Lara he was a class player in a sh!t side but he was still one of, if not the greatest, batsmen of the modern era but they didn't win much so does that diminish the kind of player he was, no IMHO.
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Re: 3rd dead Test Match, Aust v SAf @ SCG

Postby brod » Fri Jan 02, 2009 1:42 am

Prince has stated that he is 60% chance of being fit....but will he be picked (why would you risk a player in this match??)
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Re: 3rd dead Test Match, Aust v SAf @ SCG

Postby Gozu » Fri Jan 02, 2009 2:17 am

Graeme Smith is in doubt for this match but is hopeful of playing but supposedly won't be playing any of the T20 or ODI games. Put ya feet up mate, you've already won the series (we need to win this Test to stay world #1).
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Re: 3rd dead Test Match, Aust v SAf @ SCG

Postby Groover » Fri Jan 02, 2009 4:05 am

brod wrote:Prince has stated that he is 60% chance of being fit....but will he be picked (why would you risk a player in this match??)


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Re: 3rd dead Test Match, Aust v SAf @ SCG

Postby Gozu » Fri Jan 02, 2009 1:10 pm

It was announced not long ago that Bollinger and McDonald have both been named in the team and Hilfenhaus is 12th man.
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Re: 3rd dead Test Match, Aust v SAf @ SCG

Postby hearts on fire » Fri Jan 02, 2009 1:14 pm

South Africa will smash Australia, how the hell can this McDonald get a game!
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Re: 3rd dead Test Match, Aust v SAf @ SCG

Postby FD88 » Fri Jan 02, 2009 1:35 pm

Gozu wrote:It was announced not long ago that Bollinger and McDonald have both been named in the team and Hilfenhaus is 12th man.


NO!!! Damnit, when is the Hilf going to get a go? :(
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