HAYDEN RETIRES

[silicone skyline]

And Mike Hussey, sun in the right part of the sky, can still catch.

Hayden's fielding even let him down.

[bayman]

did he retire or was he told that he wouldn't be picked & to 'retire' rather than be seen to be dumped ? (i feel the latter), as everyone knows it was a great career from a dominating batsmen, the thing i didn't like him doing was 'shouldering arms' & getting bowled which did cause him to lose his spot when he first played but he worked on it & got another chance


will he play for queensland ?

[Lightning McQueen]

It's easy to be expert in hindsight and say he should have pulled the pin earlier. Steve Waugh was about the same age, and in the same career position, when he peeled off that century v England in Sydney. He then played another 2 years.

Very few opening batsman average over 50 over 103 tests while scoring 8,625 runs. He was a key part of one of our most successful eras, well done Haydos

IMO, this season he's been crucified by media and fans spoiled by 15 years of us winning everything.

Well said Hondo, for memory, Tubby Taylor's form slump towards the end of his career was longer.

[Hondo]

S-S, you're are completely missing my point while you tell me I am stuck in the past

I am not saying it isn't the right time - if he thinks it's the right time then it's the right time.

I have let him go already - well played Haydos now it's time for the next guy to get a crack.

My issue is that Haydos and the selectors were big and ugly enough to work it out themselves without sections of the media and the fans hounding them every step of the way, adding even more pressure. How many TV grabs did you see of him collecting his bags from the airport with a journo asking him about retirement? How many people suddenly became an expert on the impact of ageing on an athlete's body How many irrelevant analogies to other professions, such as music

He had as bad a home series as the Huss or Brett Lee or Stuart Clark (prior to injury). Arguably even Roy. Thank christ those other guys weren't 37! The big 3-7 will now forever become the cut-off point after which we need glasses, hearing aids and walking sticks

[bayman]

S-S, you're are completely missing my point while you tell me I am stuck in the past

I am not saying it isn't the right time - if he thinks it's the right time then it's the right time.

I have let him go already - well played Haydos now it's time for the next guy to get a crack.

My issue is that Haydos and the selectors were big and ugly enough to work it out themselves without sections of the media and the fans hounding them every step of the way, adding even more pressure. How many TV grabs did you see of him collecting his bags from the airport with a journo asking him about retirement? How many people suddenly became an expert on the impact of ageing on an athlete's body How many irrelevant analogies to other professions, such as music

He had as bad a home series as the Huss or Brett Lee or Stuart Clark (prior to injury). Arguably even Roy. Thank christ those other guys weren't 37! The big 3-7 will now forever become the cut-off point after which we need glasses, hearing aids and walking sticks

i wish i was 37 again, mind you i feel like a 16yo the only trouble is she said NO

[Rik E Boy]

IMO, this season he's been crucified by media and fans spoiled by 15 years of us winning everything.

To paraphrase something a wise man said to me this morning - a musician can't keep playing if he loses his skills, sportspeople are no different.

To paraphrase no one your 'wise man' is a fecking idiot. My old man is in his sixties and plays Guitar as well as ever but he'd have a hard time spending the day in the field LOL. False analogy!

regards,

REB

[silicone skyline]

My point is, he couldn't play.

When you're not performing against NEW ZEALAND you know it's time.

Hussey's dismissals were a lot different too, while Roy lacked desire.

On the media front, the media gave the people what they wanted.

Something to talk about. Interest. Welcome to the world of professional sport.

At least Hayden wasn't the manager of the English Premier League side.

Watch the media take his retirement now and give him all the testimonials in the world.

You won't be complaining then.

[Rik E Boy]

i wish i was 37 again, mind you i feel like a 16yo the only trouble is she said NO

Your committment to recycling is admirable.

regards,

REB

[silicone skyline]

IMO, this season he's been crucified by media and fans spoiled by 15 years of us winning everything.

To paraphrase something a wise man said to me this morning - a musician can't keep playing if he loses his skills, sportspeople are no different.

To paraphrase no one your 'wise man' is a fecking idiot. My old man is in his sixties and plays Guitar as well as ever but he'd have a hard time spending the day in the field LOL. False analogy!

regards,

REB

What I actually said was if a singer can't perform any more, he holds no more concerts.

Maybe the odd guest appearance. ( 20/20) )

And you are the fecking idiot, if your old man can still play the guitar he hasn't lost his skills than, has he numnuts?

Hayden could play for Australia til he's 60 for all I care, problem is, he can't.

That's the difference.

Holy shit, that sounds like common sense???!!!!

[Baron Greenback]

IMO, this season he's been crucified by media and fans spoiled by 15 years of us winning everything.

To paraphrase something a wise man said to me this morning - a musician can't keep playing if he loses his skills, sportspeople are no different.

To paraphrase no one your 'wise man' is a fecking idiot. My old man is in his sixties and plays Guitar as well as ever but he'd have a hard time spending the day in the field LOL. False analogy!

regards,

REB

What I actually said was if a singer can't perform any more, he holds no more concerts.

Maybe the odd guest appearance. ( 20/20) )

And you are the fecking idiot, if your old man can still play the guitar he hasn't lost his skills than, has he numnuts?

Hayden could play for Australia til he's 60 for all I care, problem is, he can't.

That's the difference.

Holy s***t, that sounds like common sense???!!!!

Zing!

[Dogwatcher]

I haven't been so much on Hayden's back Hondo.
I've been hoping for a resurgence all summer, look back and you will see that,.
However, I and many other judges, including many who know stuff in the cricketing world, could see the skills were failing and he wasn't hitting the mark.
You can mention Tubby's form slump, but he was the captain and one of the best captains Australia has ever seen. He also hadn't had a previous opportunity in his twilight years to dig himself out of a slump (not that I can recall anyway), Hayden had had that opportunity. At his age there is no extra chance, I'm sorry to say.
I loved watching him bat and destroy opposition bowlers by wandering down the pitch and slamming them. But time is time.

[LaughingKookaburra]

Forget 1 of the best openers Australia has ever produced, at full flight he was one of the best Test openers the world has ever seen. Great player, great intimidator and from what it appears great bloke. He has bought joy to all of us at times especially during the period of 2001-2004. Well done Matty, one of my all time favorite batsman.

[Rik E Boy]

What I actually said was if a singer can't perform any more, he holds no more concerts.

Maybe the odd guest appearance. ( 20/20) )

And you are the fecking idiot, if your old man can still play the guitar he hasn't lost his skills than, has he numnuts?

Hayden could play for Australia til he's 60 for all I care, problem is, he can't.

That's the difference.

Holy s***t, that sounds like common sense???!!!!

No, it's not common sense, it's still a false analogy. The skills you need in sport are not only the technique but the physical capability to apply that technique. When you get old you retire from sport. When you get old in music you just do reunion tours. GEDDIT?

regards,

REB

[CoverKing]

What I actually said was if a singer can't perform any more, he holds no more concerts.

Maybe the odd guest appearance. ( 20/20) )

And you are the fecking idiot, if your old man can still play the guitar he hasn't lost his skills than, has he numnuts?

Hayden could play for Australia til he's 60 for all I care, problem is, he can't.

That's the difference.

Holy s***t, that sounds like common sense???!!!!

No, it's not common sense, it's still a false analogy. The skills you need in sport are not only the technique but the physical capability to apply that technique. When you get old you retire from sport. When you get old in music you just do reunion tours. GEDDIT?

regards,

REB

Well put REB!

and congratulations on a wonderful career to Haydos, i will never forget that innings in NZ when u were batting with a runner for the majority of ur innings but still managed to give the old walk down the pitch and continue to club sixes for the entire innings!! You will be sorely missed!

[Rik E Boy]

The best thing you can say about Hayden is that the opposition always considered him to be the major stumbling block. Even Graeme Smith mentioned that the ability to dismiss Hayden cheaply was a key factor in the Proteas success.

My memory of Haydos will be the gun who made English heads drop on many occasions. We will miss him in the Ashes series that is for sure.

regards,

REB

[hearts on fire]

I am very sadden to see him go, but it was always going to happen. Everyone gets to a certain point, where they have to retire.

Hayden is my favourite player and always will be, thank you Matty.

[Rik E Boy]

The best thing about retirement is how much better you get when you are no longer playing.

regards,

REB

[bayman]

What I actually said was if a singer can't perform any more, he holds no more concerts.

Maybe the odd guest appearance. ( 20/20) )

And you are the fecking idiot, if your old man can still play the guitar he hasn't lost his skills than, has he numnuts?

Hayden could play for Australia til he's 60 for all I care, problem is, he can't.

That's the difference.

Holy s***t, that sounds like common sense???!!!!

No, it's not common sense, it's still a false analogy. The skills you need in sport are not only the technique but the physical capability to apply that technique. When you get old you retire from sport. When you get old in music you just do reunion tours. GEDDIT?

regards,

REB

reb i think you also need mental toughness to succeed

[silicone skyline]

What I actually said was if a singer can't perform any more, he holds no more concerts.

Maybe the odd guest appearance. ( 20/20) )

And you are the fecking idiot, if your old man can still play the guitar he hasn't lost his skills than, has he numnuts?

Hayden could play for Australia til he's 60 for all I care, problem is, he can't.

That's the difference.

Holy s***t, that sounds like common sense???!!!!

No, it's not common sense, it's still a false analogy. The skills you need in sport are not only the technique but the physical capability to apply that technique. When you get old you retire from sport. When you get old in music you just do reunion tours. GEDDIT?

regards,

REB

No I don't. If a guitarist's fingers get all arthritic, he has lost the physical capability to apply his guitar playing technique.

How is that any different?

IT'S NOT.

Age is a barrier, Hayden hit his barrier. As did Slim Dusty (eventually). And Slim never went through a form slump.

[wycbloods]

The best thing about retirement is how much better you get when you are no longer playing.

regards,

REB

You are tight REB, i mean you were the best batsmen i have played with .