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Re: The Windies

Postby Rik E Boy » Tue Dec 01, 2009 4:34 pm

CoverKing wrote:W.I best side for mine would be rather potent however they just cant get them on the park when they need it!

Gayle
Barath
Sarwan
Chanderpaul
Dowlin
Bravo
Ramdin
Taylor
Benn
Roach
Edwards

For mine that beats Englands ashes


No way. Dowlin is suspect, Barath is talented but untried. Gayle couldn't be arsed and like I said before Chanderpaul's powers of concentration appear to have deserted him. Sarwan is horriby overrated and Bravo is shite. I don't mind the look of Ramdin but that tail is very long even though Benn looks like he knows at least which end to hold.

The Poms have beaten us twice in the last three seasons where the Windies haven't beaten us for nearly 20 years. Warne and McGrath are gone and we can still bowl them out for **** all on the best deck in the country. I'll barrack for Ricmond in 2011 CK if the Poms get bowled over as cheaply at the Gabba next November.

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Re: The Windies

Postby Booney » Tue Dec 01, 2009 4:41 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:
CoverKing wrote:W.I best side for mine would be rather potent however they just cant get them on the park when they need it!

Gayle
Barath
Sarwan
Chanderpaul
Dowlin
Bravo
Ramdin
Taylor
Benn
Roach
Edwards

For mine that beats Englands ashes


No way. Dowlin is suspect, Barath is talented but untried. Gayle couldn't be arsed and like I said before Chanderpaul's powers of concentration appear to have deserted him. Sarwan is horriby overrated and Bravo is shite. I don't mind the look of Ramdin but that tail is very long even though Benn looks like he knows at least which end to hold.

The Poms have beaten us twice in the last three seasons where the Windies haven't beaten us for nearly 20 years. Warne and McGrath are gone and we can still bowl them out for f*** all on the best deck in the country. I'll barrack for Ricmond in 2011 CK if the Poms get bowled over as cheaply at the Gabba next November.
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Re: The Windies

Postby Rik E Boy » Tue Dec 01, 2009 4:42 pm

What have I done? I'll be barracking for the Poms or Richmond! The Poms will be more reliable in my view.

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Re: The Windies

Postby Booney » Tue Dec 01, 2009 4:51 pm

At least the Pom's have 11 blokes who try to play each time they hit the park...
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Re: The Windies

Postby CoverKing » Tue Dec 01, 2009 5:03 pm

=)) =))

Never thought i would see the day of REB even contemplating going for the Tigers!!

Definitely saving this page in readiness for 2011 and you barracking for the Tigers REB

Barath v Cook - Barath is untried, but showed some real guts in that innings. Fought it out better then Cook did in the Ashes IMO in his first test.
Gayle v Strauss - Strauss obviously ahead, but Gayle is important to WI. Gayle more damaging if he gets going, but just cant be screwed.
Sarwan v Bell - Sarwan WITH EASE. no need for discussion here.
Chanderpaul v Collingwood - once again Chanderpaul WITH EASE
Dowlin v Trott - Both untried, Trott ahead due to his 100 in his debut test match.
Bravo v Prior - BRavo ahead for mine. Prior is related to Brad Hodge and nicks every second ball.
Ramdin v Flintoff - Flintoff can take it away but Ramdin i would rather fight for the game. DRAW
Taylor v Broad - Taylor can bat! Yes he got out with a stupid shot this game, but was injured and can bat. Broads bat killed us in the Ashes. Broad slightly ahead.
Benn v Swann - DRAW. swann damaging. benn fights.
Roach v Harmison - both donkeys! simple as that! DRAW
Edwards v Anderson - both at 11 for a reason. Anderson ahead because he can bat to hang around for a while. ANDERSON

I would say that there pretty even, if both sides bat to there potential, WI batting is far superior for mine!
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Re: The Windies

Postby Dogwatcher » Tue Dec 01, 2009 5:08 pm

CoverKing wrote: Bravo v Prior - BRavo ahead for mine. Prior is related to Brad Hodge and nicks every second ball.
Ramdin v Flintoff - Flintoff can take it away but Ramdin i would rather fight for the game. DRAW


For the sake of comparing apples with apples, wouldn't it better to swap these two comparisons around?

Bravo v Flintoff
Ramdin v Prior

It's a bit hard to compare guys who are in the side for differing reasons.
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Re: The Windies

Postby CoverKing » Tue Dec 01, 2009 5:10 pm

Dogwatcher wrote:
CoverKing wrote: Bravo v Prior - BRavo ahead for mine. Prior is related to Brad Hodge and nicks every second ball.
Ramdin v Flintoff - Flintoff can take it away but Ramdin i would rather fight for the game. DRAW


For the sake of comparing apples with apples, wouldn't it better to swap these two comparisons around?

Bravo v Flintoff
Ramdin v Prior

It's a bit hard to compare guys who are in the side for differing reasons.


No because it was said above the 2009 WINNING ASHES SIDE v the BEST W.I side.

THe winning side in batting order we are talking about, that is the only reason i placed it in that order! (w.i batting order different because best side would change it).
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Re: The Windies

Postby Rik E Boy » Tue Dec 01, 2009 8:12 pm

CoverKing wrote:Definitely saving this page in readiness for 2011 and you barracking for the Tigers REB

Barath v Cook - Barath is untried, but showed some real guts in that innings. Fought it out better then Cook did in the Ashes IMO in his first test. Pfft. Cook is better than Barath.

Gayle v Strauss - Strauss obviously ahead, the end

Sarwan v KP - Sarwan WITH EASE against Bell, not so with KP. You and Thisvic are putting the stronger WI lineup against the weaker England lineup in order to pump up a weak arguement. BUZZZ. Another one to England.

Chanderpaul v Collingwood - once again Chanderpaul WITH EASE At the moment, equal. Chanderpaul has lost the plot. Over the course of their career you have a point but watch him bat these days. That average is falling and the concentration is gone. Collingwood the harder man to get out at the moment but this is the only one I give to the Windies, and that's IF Chanderpaul ever finds the middle of his bat again.

Dowlin v Trott - Both untried, Trott ahead due to his 100 in his debut test match. Another one to England.

Bravo v Flintoff - Freddy by miles. No use putting the bowling alrounder up against the Wicketkeeper. Another one to England.

Ramdin v. Prior - Pretty even this one. I'd have Prior slightly ahead.

Broad v Taylor - Broad easily. Taylor has had one knock against the mighty Kiwi attack and still only averages 16.


I would say that there pretty even, if both sides bat to there potential, WI batting is far superior for mine!
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Re: The Windies

Postby CoverKing » Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:44 pm

The Cadet wrote:At full strength this West Indies team is full of potential. There batting lineup is better than the Englands 2009 Ashes winning team and there bowling has some promising quicks in Roach, Rampul and Tonge. Benn is a qualitiy spinner and Ramdin is a good keeper who can handle the bat. There main problem is there fielding, imagine if they caught the simple catches of Hussey and Hauritz.


Rik E Boy wrote:
CoverKing wrote:Definitely saving this page in readiness for 2011 and you barracking for the Tigers REB

Barath v Cook - Barath is untried, but showed some real guts in that innings. Fought it out better then Cook did in the Ashes IMO in his first test. Pfft. Cook is better than Barath.

Gayle v Strauss - Strauss obviously ahead, the end

Sarwan v KP - Sarwan WITH EASE against Bell, not so with KP. You and Thisvic are putting the stronger WI lineup against the weaker England lineup in order to pump up a weak arguement. BUZZZ. Another one to England.[/color]

Chanderpaul v Collingwood - once again Chanderpaul WITH EASE [color=#0000FF]At the moment, equal. Chanderpaul has lost the plot. Over the course of their career you have a point but watch him bat these days. That average is falling and the concentration is gone. Collingwood the harder man to get out at the moment but this is the only one I give to the Windies, and that's IF Chanderpaul ever finds the middle of his bat again.


Dowlin v Trott - Both untried, Trott ahead due to his 100 in his debut test match. Another one to England.

Bravo v Flintoff - Freddy by miles. No use putting the bowling alrounder up against the Wicketkeeper. Another one to England.

Ramdin v. Prior - Pretty even this one. I'd have Prior slightly ahead.

Broad v Taylor - Broad easily. Taylor has had one knock against the mighty Kiwi attack and still only averages 16.


I would say that there pretty even, if both sides bat to there potential, WI batting is far superior for mine!
WRONG ANSWER MCFLY!! As you can see I won't be donning the YELLOW AND BLACK anytime soon.


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REB as highlighted above, (as much as it hurts) The Cadet stated that the WINNING ASHES SIDE (so i put them in batting order) versus the BEST W.I ELEVEN. THose sides above are IMO the best W.I side and the winning ASHES side.

All i was doing was comparing those two sides!

So take that weak argument and stick up ya clacker ;)
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Re: The Windies

Postby Rik E Boy » Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:17 am

Pfft. I can split hairs too. KP was a member of the Ashes winning team. Back to school Tiggerboy. :lol:

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Re: The Windies

Postby Booney » Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:27 am

Rik E Boy wrote:Pfft. I can split hairs too. KP was a member of the Ashes winning team. Back to school Tiggerboy. :lol:

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Re: The Windies

Postby nuggety goodness » Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:32 am

here's to hoping the poms fail miserably when they're here next!!!

you can compare them on paper but until they hit the field you have no idea what thye might do... who would've thought (on paper) that Geelong were a 20 goal better side than Port in 2007?!?
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Re: The Windies

Postby am Bays » Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:35 am

Rik E Boy wrote:
CoverKing wrote:Definitely saving this page in readiness for 2011 and you barracking for the Tigers REB

Barath v Cook - Barath is untried, but showed some real guts in that innings. Fought it out better then Cook did in the Ashes IMO in his first test. Pfft. Cook is better than Barath.

Gayle v Strauss - Strauss obviously ahead, the end

Sarwan v KP - Sarwan WITH EASE against Bell, not so with KP. You and Thisvic are putting the stronger WI lineup against the weaker England lineup in order to pump up a weak arguement. BUZZZ. Another one to England.

Chanderpaul v Collingwood - once again Chanderpaul WITH EASE At the moment, equal. Chanderpaul has lost the plot. Over the course of their career you have a point but watch him bat these days. That average is falling and the concentration is gone. Collingwood the harder man to get out at the moment but this is the only one I give to the Windies, and that's IF Chanderpaul ever finds the middle of his bat again.

Dowlin v Trott - Both untried, Trott ahead due to his 100 in his debut test match. Another one to England.

Bravo v Flintoff - Freddy by miles. No use putting the bowling alrounder up against the Wicketkeeper. Another one to England.

Ramdin v. Prior - Pretty even this one. I'd have Prior slightly ahead.

Broad v Taylor - Broad easily. Taylor has had one knock against the mighty Kiwi attack and still only averages 16.


I would say that there pretty even, if both sides bat to there potential, WI batting is far superior for mine!
WRONG ANSWER MCFLY!! As you can see I won't be donning the YELLOW AND BLACK anytime soon.


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Agree with most of what you wrote REB but Ramdin is better than Prior. Prior better bat but Ramdin is twice as good as Prior with the gloves compared to Prior being better with the bat.
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Re: The Windies

Postby Booney » Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:37 am

nuggety goodness wrote:here's to hoping the poms fail miserably when they're here next!!!

you can compare them on paper but until they hit the field you have no idea what thye might do... who would've thought (on paper) that Geelong were a 20 goal better side than Port in 2007?!?


What did you bring that up for? :( :(










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Re: The Windies

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:55 am

I didn't watch any of the test, I got to watch the highlights on fox last night, I must say that I'm impressed with the way that the Windies go about their business, sure they are not that strong atm but at least they go and have a crack.
They could just stand there and dead-bat everything and last twice as long, they are prepared to have a dip though and I admire that. Hopefully they can re-build this time, something they've never done since the mass exodus of the greatest team of the modern era.
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Re: The Windies

Postby CoverKing » Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:02 am

Rik E Boy wrote:Pfft. I can split hairs too. KP was a member of the Ashes winning team. Back to school Tiggerboy. :lol:

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Re: The Windies

Postby Rik E Boy » Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:21 am

am Bays wrote:Agree with most of what you wrote REB but Ramdin is better than Prior. Prior better bat but Ramdin is twice as good as Prior with the gloves compared to Prior being better with the bat.


We were only talking about the batting Bays. Ramdin wins gloves down in wicket keeping skills. I thought he had a very good match behind the stumps at the Gabba.

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Re: The Windies

Postby Rik E Boy » Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:22 am

CoverKing wrote:
Rik E Boy wrote:Pfft. I can split hairs too. KP was a member of the Ashes winning team. Back to school Tiggerboy. :lol:

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Not the WINNING ;) (last test match) ....


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Re: The Windies

Postby mal » Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:41 am

Oh that reminds me
A refreshed Brad Haddin kept splendidly in the First test
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Re: The Windies

Postby Rik E Boy » Wed Dec 02, 2009 4:59 pm

nuggety goodness wrote:here's to hoping the poms fail miserably when they're here next!!!

you can compare them on paper but until they hit the field you have no idea what thye might do... who would've thought (on paper) that Geelong were a 20 goal better side than Port in 2007?!?


Mark Williams, hence the pre-match bullshit. He knew.

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