sa v wa 17/1 and 19-22/1

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Postby Dutchy » Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:14 pm

as usual, bowl our guts out but cant make runs
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Postby dinglinga » Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:49 pm

WHAT A F*&K*N DISGRACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MANOU IS A CAPTAINS'S ARS&^(LE!!!!!!!!!


to say im rather annoyed bout our performance ..yes we didnt make enough but when a team is 5 /110

why does manou set a defensive field.....alloying easy single's

then towards the end missed run outs over throws ..... i was thinkin is this team a bunch of minders or lead by a minder


yes its harsh but thats life
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Postby Brad » Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:22 pm

This season is going form bad to worse.
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Postby Aerie » Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:39 pm

I thought it was a fairly good performance and just didn't quite take our chances to win the game. The real test of course will be the 4-dayer. Didn't see much of Adcock's innings, but was very impressed with his bowling! Cullen and Gillespie also bowled very well. Ryan Harris looks a real goer and I hope he can hold down a spot in both forms of the game. Could become a bit like Joe Scuderi with the bat and I think he's a better bowler.
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Postby mal » Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:13 pm

WA 7/150 on the ropes 55 of about 60 balls.

AH/ROD ROOSTER/MAL/REB/SYD-DOG.......all of us with Harris/Gillespie/Tait with
the overs left over could have captained the team to victory.

TREAT THE GAME LIKE A NORmal GAME.
Put them all back and give POMERSBACH the single
Crowd the rabbits batting 9-10-11 and get them out[IF THEY HIT 4s THEY STAY ON STRIKE]
POM faces 20 balls the rabbitts 40 balls , easy captaining

We allowed the rabbits EASY singles to put POMERSBACH on strike.
MANOU captained like LEHMANN and we lost another gimme game.
MANOU cant work out that POM hits hard long and very straight so put a
fieldsman at straight mid off .....

Every game just about every commentator comments on the EASY runs that SA
give the opposition.

Did we all see the Daniel Harris LBW :twisted: :evil: :twisted:

Last night I saw Stephen Fleming trying to defend 200 v England
Flemings effort was one of the best you would ever see, no easy runs
and nearly pulled of a win.
Manou provided the exact opposite, one of the worse.
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Postby matt » Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:15 am

To get into such a strong position and blow it was extremely disappointing.
For all of Manou's efforts, Gillespie's miss of P'basch when on 30 was the big one.
Farrcking hell, we're simply not a strong cricket state.
Coming last in the U/19 tournament, at home, and losing to NT and the ACT. FFS!
Many more years of mediocrity to come.
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Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:16 am

can anyone out there please explain to me how MANOU is still in the TEAM?????

but what i am completely and utterly bemused at, is not only MANOU still in the team he is now acting CAPTAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THE SACA CANT BE SERIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THEY LET GO BLEWETT and KEEP THIS TOSSER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i agree with MAL, Flemings captaincy late in the game against the poms was sensational. the poms were cruising with 12 overs to go, but the pressure went on with attacking field settings.
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Re: sa v wa 17/1 and 19-22/1

Postby Rushby Hinds » Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:28 am

stampy wrote:i will be in perth for these two matches - going wednesday to the WACA for the first time, how will we go without boof?



Stampy, i was at the game as well!

Wasn't many redbacks fans there!

We were sitting behind Ben Cameron for the last 15 or so overs having a yack to him.
He's still my hero even if he is a little bit crap.
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Postby Rik E Boy » Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:44 am

There is a lot of angst about the Redbacks' performance vs. the Warriors in this thread which is perfectly understandable. However, there were a few positives for SA coming out of this loss.

1. Nathan Adcock. Adcock has been 'about the place' for a long time but yesterday's 90 might just about be the making of him. He would certainly have gained some confidence out of this knock. It will be interesting to see how Nate goes in the Moo Moo match this weekend.

2. The 'no Boof' factor. All season Darren Lehmann has been carrying this side but yesterday without Boof, the Redbacks came within a bees dick of knocking off the Warriors at home, a tough ask for better sides than South Australia.

3. If. A mighty big word in sport, and particularly one day cricket. The Franger cup table is most unkind to SA. The Redbacks have come off the wrong end of quite a few nailbiters. Against NSW, Victoria, and now WA, SA has been most unlucky in not being able to snatch victory. The If from yesterday of course is 'if Dizzy had caught Pommersbatch' then SA would have won the game. When you are continually getting close and continually losing, then this is a confidence and not a class factor. Yep, this season is shot but it might only take one brilliant victory for the backs next season to turn things right around for the team.

There has been a lot said about Elliot this season, perhaps the Redbacks should be looking a bit further than Victoria for their recruits. For example, Qld have an abundance of fast bowlers, Batsmen are coming out left right and centre in the West. Instead of going for the Elliott, Bevan type of import, perhaps a Magoffin, Krejza type of raid should be attempted by the Redbacks to bolster the depth of talent available for the state selectors.

Once again people have been saying 'Where's Blewett' and usually I'd be getting stuck into them but the middle order sadly lacked experience yesterday and Edmondson's bowling was brilliant. The nuts that knocked over Cosi and Cameron were absolute gems. I would never select Blewett to replace a young player who is ready but Blewett should have been drafted in to cover the abscence of Lehmann.

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Postby ORDoubleBlues » Thu Jan 18, 2007 1:04 pm

There was an occasion off of Harris' bowling that MyCoffin was allowed to take a single that should never have been on in the 3rd to last over that was very disappointing as he had very little idea with the bat in his hand and the field should have been right up when he was on strike.
Good performance by the bowlers with Dizzy bowling very economically, Adcock bowling very well (as well as his fantastic batting performance) and of course Tait getting some vital early breakthroughs including the delivery that got Ronchi out (154.8kph/96mph). Tait did go for some stick off Pommerbasch in his last over but I guess that's the type of bowler he is and what about that top edge six Ronchi hit off him on a WACA pitch that doesn't have the venom it used to.
Why has Adcock never really made the step into being a solid first class cricketer? Is it a confidence issue? Is it a lack of a work ethic? Do think that his bowling action looks a bit dicey but if other bowlers around the world are getting away with it, so should he.
Ryan Harris looks like he is starting to feel that he belongs and given the fact that he has bowled in the past at 146 kph, he's got good pace as well as fairly good accuracy to go with his ability with the bat.
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Postby MagicKiwi » Thu Jan 18, 2007 3:56 pm

Having already kissed this season goodbye, I too took a lot of positives from our performance yesterday. Captaincy mistakes (not bringing the field in to force the batsmen to hit over the top to the spinners) and fielding errors cost us. I look forward to a renewed confidence in our next game.
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Postby mal » Thu Jan 18, 2007 6:22 pm

Despite all the shortcomings 3 players continue to be overlooked when fit or not
BAILEY
CLEARY
BLEWETT

The state of our state in this 'state'ment :
MANOU captains the o/d side
ELLIOTT captains the p/cup side
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Postby Adelaide Hawk » Thu Jan 18, 2007 7:53 pm

ORDoubleBlues wrote:Why has Adcock never really made the step into being a solid first class cricketer? Is it a confidence issue? Is it a lack of a work ethic? Do think that his bowling action looks a bit dicey but if other bowlers around the world are getting away with it, so should he.


I think Nathan suffered a little from instant success at Grade level. 2 centuries in his 1st two A Grade innings, (the only other player to do this was Gordon Greenidge), followed by a 60 odd. He had over 350 runs in his first 3 digs. We all thought we were watching a phenomenon in the making, but it never happened.

A couple of 1st class bowlers worked him out, slightly loose footwork which lead to him playing across the line. He had a run of outs when still with Sturt which led to a loss in confidence. He also had a near tragic fielding accident against Glenelg at Price Memorial Oval which further set him back. Then he was offered the captaincy if he transfered to Universtiy. I would have liked to have seen him stay at Sturt and work through the problem, but he decided to play for University. I consider this to be a soft option for Nathan which didn't improve his cricket at a time when the state selectors were watching him closely.

For a while at Uni he was batting himself at 6 and 7, far too low for the state selectors to show any interest. He wasn't making many runs, plus the pressures of captaincy weren't helping. Finally he began making runs in the Uni top order and appears to be a better player now than at any time in his career.

Adcock works hard on his cricket, and also is meticulous in what he eats (Cosgrove take note). He's a quality young man, one of the best hitters of a cricket ball I have seen, and I would love to see him finally realise his potential over the next few season.

As for his bowling action ... if Murali doesn't chuck, nobody does.
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Postby mal » Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:07 pm

AH a valuable insight on Nathans career.
He has not got the natural talent of Cosgrove but Adcock
makes the most of his limitations.
Until that whirlwind o/d dig Adcock is a bloke I have admired
for making the most of his ability.
That o/d dig may be the making of Adcock.

AH is the 6 sixes a record in o/d games ?
On TV they said 3 batsman have done it, Birt one of them
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Postby rod_rooster » Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:35 pm

Adelaide Hawk wrote:He also had a near tragic fielding accident against Glenelg at Price Memorial Oval which further set him back.


Could you elaborate on this incident further? What actually happened? Sounds pretty nasty. I've seen a couple of pretty nasty accident on the field myself but none that sound as serious as this one.
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Postby Maddogmike » Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:21 am

Hmmm how on earth did Skewes miss the run out to win the game on the 2nd last ball - only just seen the highlights!! Point blank range!!
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Postby Adelaide Hawk » Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:00 am

mal wrote:AH is the 6 sixes a record in o/d games ?
On TV they said 3 batsman have done it, Birt one of them


I have no idea, but it would have to be close. When Nathan is hitting the ball, it doesn't just lob over the line, it sails well into the stands.
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Postby Adelaide Hawk » Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:14 am

rod_rooster wrote:
Adelaide Hawk wrote:He also had a near tragic fielding accident against Glenelg at Price Memorial Oval which further set him back.


Could you elaborate on this incident further? What actually happened? Sounds pretty nasty. I've seen a couple of pretty nasty accident on the field myself but none that sound as serious as this one.


He was in the oufield and ran for a catch about 10 metres inside the boundary. As he neared the possible catch, his legs appeared to get slightly tangled, and when he threw himself at the ball he overbalanced. This meant when he fell to the ground his entire body weight came down on his neck.

He didn't move and the players ran over to see if he was okay, An ambulance was called and the paramedics worked on him for nearly half an hour as he laid motionless on the ground. We all thought the worst (quadrilplegia) and it was a very somber mood in the clubrooms that evening.

When we got the good news that he had regained feeling in his body and legs we were a very relieved group. It was one of the more upsetting days I'd ever experienced in cricket. Another tough moment for me was taking a phone call from his mother asking to speak with him. I had to tell her what I knew, which wasn't much at that time. Boy, do I know when to answer the phone!!! Thankfully it had a happy ending.
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Postby rod_rooster » Fri Jan 19, 2007 8:37 am

Adelaide Hawk wrote:
rod_rooster wrote:
Adelaide Hawk wrote:He also had a near tragic fielding accident against Glenelg at Price Memorial Oval which further set him back.


Could you elaborate on this incident further? What actually happened? Sounds pretty nasty. I've seen a couple of pretty nasty accident on the field myself but none that sound as serious as this one.


He was in the oufield and ran for a catch about 10 metres inside the boundary. As he neared the possible catch, his legs appeared to get slightly tangled, and when he threw himself at the ball he overbalanced. This meant when he fell to the ground his entire body weight came down on his neck.

He didn't move and the players ran over to see if he was okay, An ambulance was called and the paramedics worked on him for nearly half an hour as he laid motionless on the ground. We all thought the worst (quadrilplegia) and it was a very somber mood in the clubrooms that evening.

When we got the good news that he had regained feeling in his body and legs we were a very relieved group. It was one of the more upsetting days I'd ever experienced in cricket. Another tough moment for me was taking a phone call from his mother asking to speak with him. I had to tell her what I knew, which wasn't much at that time. Boy, do I know when to answer the phone!!! Thankfully it had a happy ending.


Wow, that sounds really bad. Thankfully it all turned out well. I guess it would be pretty hard to get your confidence back after something like that.
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Postby mal » Fri Jan 19, 2007 10:13 am

AH sounds like if Nathan succeeds in the 1st class arena that you would be
one of the happiest blokes in SA.
Great reporting and lets hope he makes a double ton v WA
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