Katich is a hack and why is he still playing for Aus?

[Dutchy]

Where did I mention that I wanted a SA player to replace Katich?

If Katich was any good he would have dug us out of trouble and not bailed on 59. His test average is 38, poor by todays standards of some ordinary teams, smaller grounds, good batting wickets and quick outfields.

And when has he won us a game off his own bat?

REB - Look forward to seeing you at the oval for the last game of the year SA v NSW hopefully to decide which team hosts the final

[stan]

After Jacques performace today, Katich may be struggling........

[am Bays]

Manou is the best glover in the country by far and has scored 50 runs less than hartley over 6 games yet the QLD'er gets an AUS A tour to india. Hartley wouldn't of got that opportunity had he not been in QLD me thinks.

See my earlier posts on W/Kers, Smithy give yourself an uppercut son, and go to the next game of cricket @ the greatest ground in the world the next time SA & QLD clash, then you'll see what I mean.

[smithy]

Punch given and received Tassie, but the point I was getting at is players in some locations receive better opportunites than others.

REB was too busy being a smart arse (CHAMP) and still didn't answer my original question which was if he thinks NSW have the best 4 one day bowlers in australia..
McGrath and Lee certainly deserve their spot but the other 2 DO NOT and the stats back that up.

[am Bays]

Smithy I'll stop being a smartar5e,

I find it a bit hard to go with the NSW bias in selections especially that since S Bernard became the Australian team manager in 1999, no person of NSW origin has been on the selection panel. Currently we have a banana bender, a croweater, a Taswegian and a VIC. The VIC recently repalced another Queenslander.

Objectively I find it hard to go with this NSW centric bias in our Australian selections.

The reasons why Bracken gets a game is because he provides variety as left arm over the wicket. I'll concede that his stock ball is about 10 km to slow for test cricket if he doesn't swing it a la the last test against India in Sydney when all the Australian bowlers get pogoed (Gillespie, Lee, McGill and Katich included). It is obviously a risk the selectors want to take to give the attack variety.

The selectors have been looking for the new McGrath since 2001, they ttried Noffke on the 2001 tour and now they are seeing how Clarke goes, someone to bowl in the channel all day. So I think Clarke is worth a look at particulalry as they are looking at options this one-day sseries with an eye towards thhe 2007 World Cup.

HAving said that if Tait wasn't injured Clarke wouldn't have got a look in at the Perth test and probably in this one day series.

From a one day point of view I would like to see Rofe be given a go as he is Mc Grath like but I think they have concerns about his pace too.

[Rik E Boy]

Punch given and received Tassie, but the point I was getting at is players in some locations receive better opportunites than others.

REB was too busy being a smart arse (CHAMP) and still didn't answer my original question which was if he thinks NSW have the best 4 one day bowlers in australia..
McGrath and Lee certainly deserve their spot but the other 2 DO NOT and the stats back that up.

Cripes Smithy a bit touchy aren't we?? In answer to your question, the bowlers are used in rotation in the one day stuff and as you quite rightly pointed out Lee and McGrath would be regulars but Braken and Clark would be a part of the bowling rotation along with Hoggy, Dorey (what happened to Lewis??)and to a lesser extent Hopes. I don't rate that Johnson guy..couldn't figure out why he got a gig as he was getting slapped in the ING. I've mentioned Dorey and Lewis, what other players should have gotten in ahead of Clark and Bracken? Haven't seen that much of Rofe and I know Tait is coming back from injury which is probably why Clark has gotten a gig. I reckon Bracken goes all right in the one day games but that could be a point of view with blue coloured glasses on.


regards,

REB

[am Bays]

I find it a bit hard to go with the NSW bias in selections especially that since S Bernard became the Australian team manager in 1999, no person of NSW origin has been on the selection panel.

I'll qualify that statement given that Hildith was originally from NSW and moved to SA in 1981 to play shield cricket for SA for 10 years.

So strictly speaking Hilditch does have NSW origins but we'll claim him as one of ours hey?

[smithy]

Punch given and received Tassie, but the point I was getting at is players in some locations receive better opportunites than others.

REB was too busy being a smart arse (CHAMP) and still didn't answer my original question which was if he thinks NSW have the best 4 one day bowlers in australia..
McGrath and Lee certainly deserve their spot but the other 2 DO NOT and the stats back that up.

Cripes Smithy a bit touchy aren't we?? In answer to your question, the bowlers are used in rotation in the one day stuff and as you quite rightly pointed out Lee and McGrath would be regulars but Braken and Clark would be a part of the bowling rotation along with Hoggy, Dorey (what happened to Lewis??)and to a lesser extent Hopes. I don't rate that Johnson guy..couldn't figure out why he got a gig as he was getting slapped in the ING. I've mentioned Dorey and Lewis, what other players should have gotten in ahead of Clark and Bracken? Haven't seen that much of Rofe and I know Tait is coming back from injury which is probably why Clark has gotten a gig. I reckon Bracken goes all right in the one day games but that could be a point of view with blue coloured glasses on.


regards,

REB

Fair REB, but all too often I think the eastern states media juggernaut gets a bit too much say in who gets selected.
Even the late great David Hookes thought so.
The point I was originally getting at is over the past 5-10 years, if there is ANY doubt over selection, a banana bender or NSWelshman gets a gig over the other states.
As for Rofe, he has been disappointing this season in the short game and doesn't deserve a gig, plus his batting sucks but in the Pura Cup he has performed better than Clark and Bracken.
Why are Clark and Bracken even in the test squad ahead of some of other players around the country???
As for Katich, I'm glad he got dumped from the test side, also that was a woeful decision replacing Hayden with him in the ODI's but I have been watching Jacques this year and he deserves the selection and I hope he keeps it for a while yet.
And whilst the keyboard is still rolling, I do agree with your blue coloured glasses about cricket on most occasions but the supposed "eastern state favouritism" is not just my opinion, it's shared by many.

Breath..........

[Dutchy]

Jaques hits historic century
January 25, 2006

PHIL Jaques has become the first player in ING Cup history to make four centuries in one season.

The New South Wales opening batsman brought up his record-breaking hundred off 104 balls, with 12 fours and one six, in the 33rd over of the Blues' match against Tasmania at Bellerive Oval.

After 37 over, Jaques was 116 not out with NSW 3-221.

Jaques, 26, set out to send a message to Australian selectors, who dropped him from the national limited-overs side despite his record-breaking 94 on debut against South Africa in Melbourne last week.

His score against the Proteas was the highest by an Australian on international limited-overs debut. Jaques resumed state duties today after making way for Blues captain Simon Katich to return from injury to the Australian side.

"There's nothing better than proving them wrong, I guess," Jaques said on the Sydney's 2KY radio station yesterday.

"I've just got to go out and do my business and hopefully I can't be ignored."

Five players had previously made three centuries in one ING Cup season: Brad Hodge, Matthew Hayden, Matthew Elliott, Stuart Law and Darren Lehmann.

[stampy]

up yours reb, pity hookesy isnt still with us he would have agreed with me regarding blueboys getting preferential selection. IT HAS GONE ON FOR DECADES. SO STICK THAT IN YOUR C4 FORUM. I know my cricket champ ok!! I try not to be biased but fair go, if cosgrove was playing for either nsw or qld he would be in the vb lineup hey but thats only my opinion

[Dutchy]

Cosie - 121 off 115 tonight

[stampy]

saw his first innings dig against tassie last monday and it was beautiful to watch

[Ruck Legend]

Katich is a good batsman, but not an international one-day opener.
Is more suited to the longer form of the game I feel.
Anyway you can't tell me he is better than Jaques.

[smithy]

Credit where it's due, Katich played a tremendous innings tonight.
Whilst Gilly made the bowling look easy ol' Katich was blocking his way around trying to save his spot, not concerned about the closeness of the ladder and the importance of a bonus point. Nope, he as always was the most entertaining 1 day batsman I have ever seen, full of prods, blocks and leaves and when Gilly gets out they say the bowling has tightened up. PLEASE - PLEASE drop this dud from the side.
I have never wished for the aussies to lose a wicket so much in my life.
But since he made a massive 50 odd at the pulsating strike rate of 60 something he has to get a gig for the next 10 games.

PLAY FOR THE TEAM - NOT FOR YOURSELF ......................TOSSBAG........................BRING BACK HAYDEN OR JACQUES


PLEEEEEEEEEEEASE

[stan]

At least gilly got us of to a bit of a flyer. Katsnatch after tonight is probably here to stay until the end of the series.

[Ian]

Just when you write someone off as a "hack" they finally put a score together. Although Katitch is playing 2nd fiddle to Gilly ( currently 100+) 65no from 80 odd balls is enough for him to keep his spot.

[Interceptor]

It should be mentioned that he's been dropped 3 times on his way to that score.
He plays Murali poorly and always looks scratchy against him.

Gilly made it easy for Krapich tonight and he's lucky the Sri Lankans are fielding poorly.

[Ian]

just got out for 82(110) going for it.

[scott]

Katich's 14 most recent one day scores.

82 v SL, Perth
52 v SL, Adelaide
19 v SL, Sydney
0 v SAF, Brisbane
60 v SL, Melbourne
36 v NZ, Wellington
54 v NZ, Auckland
47 v ICC, Melbourne
58 v ICC, Melbourne
30 v Eng, The Oval
36* v Eng, Cardiff
5 v NZ, Napier
43 v NZ, Wellington
58 v NZ, Auckland

Average of 45 and almost 600 runs scored in that period.

Hardly hack material. I think a move down the order would most suit him. He's not a notably aggressive player, but still boasts a reasonable ODI strike rate of 74.

[Dog_ger]

With those figures Silky, it appears he deserves his place in the team..? An average of 45... What should an opener average..? With an ODI of 70 odd.......