India vs Australia-ODI series thread

[mal]

Another farcical Indian Pitch
A number of times the ball was dug in and reared up knee height
Congrats to India for formulating ways to beat even the greatest Australian teams on thier own decks in my lifetime
= Good record against Australia at home
= Can never ever be the number 1 team in the world in dynastical terminology by doctoring home tracks, and struggle in away games

Classic example is DHONI who is being compared with GilCHRIST

This is purely DHONI v AU games I have seen
In India he is The DOhNi
When there is insufficient pace and bounce in the comfort of his own country he is an absolute
dynamo, a clever matchwinning star batsman
In Australia he is The Dohnievermakeruns
The bounce and pace in Australia found him out on the last tour
Until Dhoni makes sizable contributions against AU in Australia I wont be convinced


As for the mass debate on GilCHRIST or Dhoni
In India The DOhNi easily
Anywhere else GilCHRIST


Footnote
Im not havingago at The DOhNi personally, in fact Im enthralled by his batting
He has several gears and adjusts to any situation [at home v AU]
He is also a reason why I would want to watch 50 over cricket

but mal didnt india win the tri-series against australia in australia a couple of years ago?
i think i would choose dhoni for 1 reason, he seems to go on with his innings more than gilly did - giolliy would often make a quick 30 then get out, dhoni seems to convert his starts better plus he has teh pressure of captaining the side as well

but Mayz didnt india get beaten just about every other time they toured Australia
As I said the DOhNi has to prove himself in Australia b4 he earns my full respect
From memory he was a distinct failure last time when he could not handle the bouncy wickets
Lets see how good he is facing Siddle and MJ when the ball bounces above ankle height

in Australia 10 347 88* 69.40 0 - - - - 19 2

average of 69 in australia isnt too shaby

Average of 69 in Australia is sensational for a person who is still to make a half century versus Australia in Australia in ODIs
Actually even better average for a batsman who has never made an International Test 50 against Australia in Australia as well

Dhoni has never quite played a match winning innings v AU on our pitches in Tests or ODIs
But he has played a match winning innings vrs Chuckers mob here

[catchit]

i would take gilly over dhoni.. dhoni is a gun on his deck but ordinary anywhere else.. gilly is a legend.. how many times did gilly bat at 7 and win the game for au in any part of the world.. let alone opening in one day games and doing the same..

[CoverKing]

The turning point India 4 down, within a run a ball
Tendulkar and fatso in full flight
Enter the chosen one who bowls 1 over and takes 2/1
That man Shane Watson who is now taking wickets
I never thought he was a good bowler, but thats changed
_____________________________________________
RODNEY ROOSTER NEEDS TO CHANGE HIS SIGNATURE
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What a game by the 2 champs
Tendulkar 175 , thats the best ODI innings Ive ever seen
Watto 93 and 3 for less than 50 on a batting paradise

We have them 3-2 down and now keep the number 1 OD team rating irrespective of the last 2 games

If India had won, it would have been the best innings i had seen. However i can not got past Gibbs innings when they chased 434 against the Aussies. A very close 2nd tho.

I am extremely happy i witnessed this innings and game. It had everything from Watsons blazing start, to Marsh's solid innings when not in form, to a Ponting cameo, finished off by some massive hitting from White and Hussey.
and then we saw a debut from McKay who bowled so well, picked up wickets, with them being our 3 big nemesis in recent times (Gambhir, Dhoni and the little master). We saw tendulkar and rainas blazing partnership, we saw Watsons terrific spell at the death.

One of the best ODI games iv seen. And people say that this format is dead??

[MAY-Z]

The turning point India 4 down, within a run a ball
Tendulkar and fatso in full flight
Enter the chosen one who bowls 1 over and takes 2/1
That man Shane Watson who is now taking wickets
I never thought he was a good bowler, but thats changed
_____________________________________________
RODNEY ROOSTER NEEDS TO CHANGE HIS SIGNATURE
____________________________________________

What a game by the 2 champs
Tendulkar 175 , thats the best ODI innings Ive ever seen
Watto 93 and 3 for less than 50 on a batting paradise

We have them 3-2 down and now keep the number 1 OD team rating irrespective of the last 2 games

If India had won, it would have been the best innings i had seen. However i can not got past Gibbs innings when they chased 434 against the Aussies. A very close 2nd tho.

I am extremely happy i witnessed this innings and game. It had everything from Watsons blazing start, to Marsh's solid innings when not in form, to a Ponting cameo, finished off by some massive hitting from White and Hussey.
and then we saw a debut from McKay who bowled so well, picked up wickets, with them being our 3 big nemesis in recent times (Gambhir, Dhoni and the little master). We saw tendulkar and rainas blazing partnership, we saw Watsons terrific spell at the death.

One of the best ODI games iv seen. And people say that this format is dead??

exactly - you cant get that type of sustained emotion and variation and performance in t20 cricket

[MAY-Z]

i would take gilly over dhoni.. dhoni is a gun on his deck but ordinary anywhere else.. gilly is a legend.. how many times did gilly bat at 7 and win the game for au in any part of the world.. let alone opening in one day games and doing the same..

dhoni and gilly have played more than 3 one day internationals each in 10 nations, head to head dhoni avergaes more than gilly in 7 of those nations so this notion about him only being an good player in indian conditions doesnt really stack up at all

[CoverKing]

i would take gilly over dhoni.. dhoni is a gun on his deck but ordinary anywhere else.. gilly is a legend.. how many times did gilly bat at 7 and win the game for au in any part of the world.. let alone opening in one day games and doing the same..

dhoni and gilly have played more than 3 one day internationals each in 10 nations, head to head dhoni avergaes more than gilly in 7 of those nations so this notion about him only being an good player in indian conditions doesnt really stack up at all

Indian conditions = pakistan condidtions. sri lankan condidtions. bangladesh condidtions.

[Lightning McQueen]

i would take gilly over dhoni.. dhoni is a gun on his deck but ordinary anywhere else.. gilly is a legend.. how many times did gilly bat at 7 and win the game for au in any part of the world.. let alone opening in one day games and doing the same..

dhoni and gilly have played more than 3 one day internationals each in 10 nations, head to head dhoni avergaes more than gilly in 7 of those nations so this notion about him only being an good player in indian conditions doesnt really stack up at all

It's a lot harder for Gilly to be "not out" at the end of an innings when opening, he always put his team first by going out there and trying to set pace early, it didn't always come off but it did more than it didn't.

[mal]

Irrespective of averages
Gilly made his runs at close to 100 strike rate very often
That made the job of those following in the batting order infinitely easier

[CoverKing]

MayZ, MALS point of Dhoni not making runs V AUS in AUS is still justified.

He has never made a 50 against AUS in either form in AUS. His average is only increased because he played against another nation that cant play on a bouncy pitch.

Last night in INDIA, was a bouncy pitch with something in it for a bowler that hit the deck. Hence why Watson and McKay were the pick of the bowlers. Dhoni didnt get past 10!!!

Gilly could do it on all surfaces against the new ball.

[MAY-Z]

MayZ, MALS point of Dhoni not making runs V AUS in AUS is still justified.

He has never made a 50 against AUS in either form in AUS. His average is only increased because he played against another nation that cant play on a bouncy pitch.

Last night in INDIA, was a bouncy pitch with something in it for a bowler that hit the deck. Hence why Watson and McKay were the pick of the bowlers. Dhoni didnt get past 10!!!

Gilly could do it on all surfaces against the new ball.

not really - dhoni was batting lower in the order when they came out here last time so he had less chance to score the big scores.

gillys average is only mid 30s at a strike rate of 96
dhoni averages 50 with a strike rate of 89

i say this a lot but how good was gillys performances against australia in australia? you can not say someone is a better player because of one players performances against australia in australia when teh other player never had to face the australians

[CoverKing]

MayZ, MALS point of Dhoni not making runs V AUS in AUS is still justified.

He has never made a 50 against AUS in either form in AUS. His average is only increased because he played against another nation that cant play on a bouncy pitch.

Last night in INDIA, was a bouncy pitch with something in it for a bowler that hit the deck. Hence why Watson and McKay were the pick of the bowlers. Dhoni didnt get past 10!!!

Gilly could do it on all surfaces against the new ball.

not really - dhoni was batting lower in the order when they came out here last time so he had less chance to score the big scores.
gillys average is only mid 30s at a strike rate of 96
dhoni averages 50 with a strike rate of 89

i say this a lot but how good was gillys performances against australia in australia? you can not say someone is a better player because of one players performances against australia in australia when teh other player never had to face the australians

more not outs, therefore an inflation of his average which is wat some naive people look at. Gillys average of mid 30 is greater then Dhonis average of 50 due to the fact he opens against the new ball, and sets the pace.

How many not outs do each have?

[Gozu]

The pre-match show for the 6th ODI starts at 1pm on Sunday arvo.

[mal]

A nice fresher MJ is opening the bowling
SHEWAG smasssshes him for a zac
That made the refreshed MJ mad !!!!
1 over
INDIA 2/7
And some people on SAFOOTY continue to criticise last seasons International cricketer of the year
As DKL said b4 MJ played International cricket, this is a once in a generation bowler
DKL and MAL both cant be wrong

He is arguably the best cricketer in the team [Watto/skipper go ok as well]

PS
DKL is Dennis Keith Lillie
MAL is MAL

[mal]

IN 3/23 [5.3]
Douggie gets Tendulkar

LET ME GUESS
Conditions that are assisting fast bowlers
About time

4/23 DHONI caught behind of Dougie
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh NO
Given Not out

3/23 still

[wycbloods]

4/24. Yuvraj gone Bowled by Dougie

[wycbloods]

5/27 As MJ gets Raina.

These two might be the only two who bowl at this rate. only 9 overs gone.

[locky801]

Whats the pitch a minefield or something now 5/54

[locky801]

India now 5/73 after 29

[dedja]

75/7 now ...

[locky801]

Bollinger back into the attack and picks up Dhoni straight away

India 6/75