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Bombers4EVA wrote:Since when did the Australian batsmen and all batsmen around the world become pussy cats about spin bowling? When did it change from being afraid of pace bowlers to being afraid of spinners? The ball is travelling about an average of 80kms an hour and your grandma with half vision in her left eye still has time to smack it. Grrr. It's only spin. Watch the ball. Use your feet well and smack the f#@k out of it.

Anyone?

Just looked up the stadium location on Google Maps. Bloody hell it's almost halfway between Pune and Mumbai! Victorians used to whinge about the distance Waverley was from the CBD....

heater31 wrote:Just looked up the stadium location on Google Maps. Bloody hell it's almost halfway between Pune and Mumbai! Victorians used to whinge about the distance Waverley was from the CBD....

Add to that.....not much car parking, no public transport to the ground and you can only buy a 5 day ticket = poor crowd.

Grenville wrote:

Bombers4EVA wrote:Since when did the Australian batsmen and all batsmen around the world become pussy cats about spin bowling? When did it change from being afraid of pace bowlers to being afraid of spinners? The ball is travelling about an average of 80kms an hour and your grandma with half vision in her left eye still has time to smack it. Grrr. It's only spin. Watch the ball. Use your feet well and smack the f#@k out of it.

Anyone?

Bombers4EVA will be conducting batting master classes at Adelaide Oval this Sunday....be there.

Senor Moto Gadili wrote:

Grenville wrote:

Bombers4EVA wrote:Since when did the Australian batsmen and all batsmen around the world become pussy cats about spin bowling? When did it change from being afraid of pace bowlers to being afraid of spinners? The ball is travelling about an average of 80kms an hour and your grandma with half vision in her left eye still has time to smack it. Grrr. It's only spin. Watch the ball. Use your feet well and smack the f#@k out of it.

Anyone?

Bombers4EVA will be conducting batting master classes at Adelaide Oval this Sunday....be there.

Tell me then. What's harder to read? Spin or pace? A ball coming at you @145kms/hr or a ball coming @ 80kms/h?

Bombers4EVA wrote:Since when did the Australian batsmen and all batsmen around the world become pussy cats about spin bowling? When did it change from being afraid of pace bowlers to being afraid of spinners? The ball is travelling about an average of 80kms an hour and your grandma with half vision in her left eye still has time to smack it. Grrr. It's only spin. Watch the ball. Use your feet well and smack the f#@k out of it.

Wow.

If it's so easy then why aren't you over in India right now showing us how it's done?

Warner bowled off No Ball

Bombers4EVA wrote:Tell me then. What's harder to read? Spin or pace? A ball coming at you @145kms/hr or a ball coming @ 80kms/h?

I'm not being a smartarse but what is the highest level of cricket you have played mate?

Lightning McQueen wrote:

Bombers4EVA wrote:Tell me then. What's harder to read? Spin or pace? A ball coming at you @145kms/hr or a ball coming @ 80kms/h?

I'm not being a smartarse but what is the highest level of cricket you have played mate?

I've played on both turf and hard wicket many years ago. I have played for around 4 years. I am not a expert in cricket and I have never said I was. All I am saying is that we are all saying that Australia will get flogged over there as we are poor at playing spin. Spin is spin. You have more time to place your feet and settle to play the shot. Comparing to pace.

Lightning McQueen wrote:

Bombers4EVA wrote:Tell me then. What's harder to read? Spin or pace? A ball coming at you @145kms/hr or a ball coming @ 80kms/h?

I'm not being a smartarse but what is the highest level of cricket you have played mate?

In my experience if the 145km/h stuff was on the front shoe it was easy. At my head it was a different story

Bombers4EVA wrote: Spin is spin. You have more time to place your feet and settle to play the shot. Comparing to pace.

You have no idea lol

Bombers4EVA wrote:

Lightning McQueen wrote:

Bombers4EVA wrote:Tell me then. What's harder to read? Spin or pace? A ball coming at you @145kms/hr or a ball coming @ 80kms/h?

I'm not being a smartarse but what is the highest level of cricket you have played mate?

I've played on both turf and hard wicket many years ago. I have played for around 4 years. I am not a expert in cricket and I have never said I was. All I am saying is that we are all saying that Australia will get flogged over there as we are poor at playing spin. Spin is spin. You have more time to place your feet and settle to play the shot. Comparing to pace.

Well history (Murali and S K Warne) tells us that the 80kms/h stuff is harder to read.

I wish Adelaide Hawk still frequented this forum

Grenville wrote:

Bombers4EVA wrote:Since when did the Australian batsmen and all batsmen around the world become pussy cats about spin bowling? When did it change from being afraid of pace bowlers to being afraid of spinners? The ball is travelling about an average of 80kms an hour and your grandma with half vision in her left eye still has time to smack it. Grrr. It's only spin. Watch the ball. Use your feet well and smack the f#@k out of it.

Anyone?

When pitches, especially first class pitches, became roads

Zartan wrote:

Bombers4EVA wrote: Spin is spin. You have more time to place your feet and settle to play the shot. Comparing to pace.

You have no idea lol

Yeah I have mate. Ive played against both spin and pace. I would normally come in at somewhere between 8th and last. I have faced my fair share of spin and pace. Against pace I have no chance. The bails normally come off after my 1st or 2nd delivery. Whereas spin I have faced far more and made more runs. As I had that little bit more extra time to see the ball and whack it.

Q. wrote:I wish Adelaide Hawk still frequented this forum

Why's that bud? Would he carve me up on here?

Bombers4EVA wrote:

Zartan wrote:

Bombers4EVA wrote: Spin is spin. You have more time to place your feet and settle to play the shot. Comparing to pace.

You have no idea lol

Yeah I have mate. Ive played against both spin and pace. I would normally come in at somewhere between 8th and last. I have faced my fair share of spin and pace. Against pace I have no chance. The bails normally come off after my 1st or 2nd delivery. Whereas spin I have faced far more and made more runs. As I had that little bit more extra time to see the ball and whack it.

There is a massive difference between facing donkey drops in community cricket, and facing world class spin bowling on dust bowls that turn half a pitch.

I'd bet my left nut you didn't face too many quality spinners - impeccable lengths, variation of pace, variation of delivery, spinning hard and pushing the ball through..

If you think facing 80kph spinners is easy then you're cooked.

Reckon i'd knock you over in less than an over..

Zartan wrote:

Bombers4EVA wrote:

Zartan wrote:

Bombers4EVA wrote: Spin is spin. You have more time to place your feet and settle to play the shot. Comparing to pace.

You have no idea lol

Yeah I have mate. Ive played against both spin and pace. I would normally come in at somewhere between 8th and last. I have faced my fair share of spin and pace. Against pace I have no chance. The bails normally come off after my 1st or 2nd delivery. Whereas spin I have faced far more and made more runs. As I had that little bit more extra time to see the ball and whack it.

There is a massive difference between facing donkey drops in community cricket, and facing world class spin bowling on dust bowls that turn half a pitch.

I'd bet my left nut you didn't face too many quality spinners - impeccable lengths, variation of pace, variation of delivery, spinning hard and pushing the ball through..

If you think facing 80kph spinners is easy then you're cooked.

Reckon i'd knock you over in less than an over..

Probably would. Just remember though. I am only making a statement of what I believe. We come across as very pussy like when it comes to playing against spin. We are very tentative at making shots against a spin bowler compared to pace bowlers. The batsmen are professionals and that is what they do every day. They train for hours in the nets and play games on weekends. But when it comes to playing against spin we fall to shite. And then we say we are ordinary against teams with high quality spinners.

Bombers4EVA wrote:Probably would. Just remember though. I am only making a statement of what I believe. We come across as very pussy like when it comes to playing against spin. We are very tentative at making shots against a spin bowler compared to pace bowlers. The batsmen are professionals and that is what they do every day. They train for hours in the nets and play games on weekends. But when it comes to playing against spin we fall to shite. And then we say we are ordinary against teams with high quality spinners.

a) We don't produce many high quality spinners that turn the ball a large way these days.
b) Almost all pitches in Australia are flat, hard batting paradises - even if they face spinners they're not a real threat.
c) India is as different to our conditions as you can get.

Some interesting discussion on cricinfo.com about the pitches they prepare in India.

"I don't see any difference between having a packed slip cordon in a green pitch in AU, NZ or in ENG and what's happening here. AU has to accept the reality and play themselves deep into the game with confidence. #HomeAdvantage"

New Zealand have definitely gone down that track recently, but when was the last green top prepared in Australia for a Test. I think we are too nice. Hopefully that changes next time India come here