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Re: Australian Domestic Season 2016/2017

PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 5:15 pm
by Eagles2014
carey wrote:
Tony Clifton wrote:So Ferguson and Mennie out

Presumably Richardson in. Raphael or Ross?

My tip

Smith
Weatherald
Cooper
Head
Lehmann
Ross
Carey
Zampa
Richardson
Sayers
Worrall

Don't reckon we'd go in with four quicks?


Swap Head and Cooper and I reckon your spot on.


Heard Worrell out (assume injured?), plus Mennie and Ferg obviously.

Ross has come in for Ferg, fair enough I suppose on past form, but made no runs since returning from injury.

Richo comes in, so will definitely play. Also added Benton and Grant, would think Benton has to play then.

Grant added for experience of being 12th man, potential for the future but has not been dominating. Valente consider himself pretty stiff I reckon.

Re: Australian Domestic Season 2016/2017

PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 5:24 pm
by Brodlach
Ferg probably will play, Mennie a 50/50 chance I was told today

Re: Australian Domestic Season 2016/2017

PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 5:53 pm
by Eagles2014
Brodlach wrote:Ferg probably will play, Mennie a 50/50 chance I was told today


Heard different Intel to that, only named 12 at this stage.

If Aussie game goes the distance, depending on rain, will finish late on Wednesday, Shield game starts early Thursday. Don't know how any Aussie players will be able to play for their States.

Re: Australian Domestic Season 2016/2017

PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 6:48 pm
by whufc
Booney wrote:
whufc wrote:
Zartan wrote:
whufc wrote:The shield must be an awful standard if Mennie can be its leading wicket taker!!!

Harsh


Gentle 130k, low arm action, no swing

No matter our test side is getting bowled out for 85, if Mennie is a serious threat


Huh? He's front on, his right arm is as high as he can get it.


His bowling is front on but take a look at the last delivery stride before he releases. His right knee almost collapses and his whole body drops to an usual position.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-10-28/w ... ie/7974660

Re: Australian Domestic Season 2016/2017

PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 8:46 pm
by Tony Clifton
Zartan wrote:
whufc wrote:Gentle 130k, low arm action, no swing

No matter our test side is getting bowled out for 85, if Mennie is a serious threat

I've seen him bowl some pretty handy spells for the Redbacks, and i think it's good that they're actually rewarding for effort last year - although perhaps his bowling at SS level is aided by the fact he's got Sayers at the other end whose very very difficult to get away.

If Australia made 400+ would people still be having the same conversations? I reckon people are looking for a scapegoat at the moment, and Mennie is obviously an easy opgtion.. i would start with looking at that batting lineup that failed - Voges see ya!

I did start to wonder watching Mennie bowl in the test how much of the success at Shield level is the trio Sayers-Mennie-Worrall working together, sustaining pressure, complementing each other. An attack greater than the sum of its parts perhaps?

Re: Australian Domestic Season 2016/2017

PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 9:25 am
by Booney
whufc wrote:
His bowling is front on but take a look at the last delivery stride before he releases. His right knee almost collapses and his whole body drops to an usual position.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-10-28/w ... ie/7974660


So it's not a low arm action at all?

Re: Australian Domestic Season 2016/2017

PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 10:16 am
by whufc
Booney wrote:
whufc wrote:
His bowling is front on but take a look at the last delivery stride before he releases. His right knee almost collapses and his whole body drops to an usual position.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-10-28/w ... ie/7974660


So it's not a low arm action at all?


I conceded better terminology would have low realease point

Even then looking at that action, his arm never really looks like it extends to its highest point especially when comparing with a McGrath, Gillespie, Clark

Re: Australian Domestic Season 2016/2017

PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:12 pm
by Brodlach
Eagles2014 wrote:
Brodlach wrote:Ferg probably will play, Mennie a 50/50 chance I was told today


Heard different Intel to that, only named 12 at this stage.

If Aussie game goes the distance, depending on rain, will finish late on Wednesday, Shield game starts early Thursday. Don't know how any Aussie players will be able to play for their States.

Plenty of time ;)

Re: Australian Domestic Season 2016/2017

PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:17 pm
by Eagles2014
Brodlach wrote:
Eagles2014 wrote:
Brodlach wrote:Ferg probably will play, Mennie a 50/50 chance I was told today


Heard different Intel to that, only named 12 at this stage.

If Aussie game goes the distance, depending on rain, will finish late on Wednesday, Shield game starts early Thursday. Don't know how any Aussie players will be able to play for their States.

Plenty of time ;)


Yes, very true. You may have been on the money all along!

Agree all the Aussie batters except Smith should play Shield cricket this match, put them all on notice!

Re: Australian Domestic Season 2016/2017

PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 9:31 pm
by Eagles2014
Eagles2014 wrote:
Brodlach wrote:
Eagles2014 wrote:
Brodlach wrote:Ferg probably will play, Mennie a 50/50 chance I was told today


Heard different Intel to that, only named 12 at this stage.

If Aussie game goes the distance, depending on rain, will finish late on Wednesday, Shield game starts early Thursday. Don't know how any Aussie players will be able to play for their States.

Plenty of time ;)


Yes, very true. You may have been on the money all along!

Agree all the Aussie batters except Smith should play Shield cricket this match, put them all on notice!


Heard Lehmann making the whole team play Shield cricket this week (except the three pace bowlers). Think this is a great idea, makes a few Shield teams a bit stronger, NSW get four back! Ferguson back for Redbacks, assume Ross goes back to the Second X1 game in QLD on Monday.

Re: Australian Domestic Season 2016/2017

PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 10:53 am
by The Bedge
QLD 1/4 - Richardson the wicket, great catch by Carey down the legside.

Sayers 3 overs 0/0

Re: Australian Domestic Season 2016/2017

PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 10:59 am
by am Bays
Zartan wrote:QLD 1/4 - Richardson the wicket, great catch by Carey down the legside.

Sayers 3 overs 0/0


Burns is having a great week......

Re: Australian Domestic Season 2016/2017

PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 11:07 am
by The Bedge
am Bays wrote:Burns is having a great week......

You'd think that's his test chances done. If Renshaw scores big here he could be the bolter.

Interesting that's twice in two digs he's been caught fending down the leg side!

Re: Australian Domestic Season 2016/2017

PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 11:51 am
by helicopterking
Zartan wrote:
am Bays wrote:Burns is having a great week......

You'd think that's his test chances done. If Renshaw scores big here he could be the bolter.

Interesting that's twice in two digs he's been caught fending down the leg side!


Renshaw 7*(67)

Re: Australian Domestic Season 2016/2017

PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 11:59 am
by reppoh_eht
Stoinis gone for 11 (47), won't do his chances much good.

Re: Australian Domestic Season 2016/2017

PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 12:11 pm
by Brodlach
Qld 1/47

Re: Australian Domestic Season 2016/2017

PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 12:17 pm
by The Bedge
Sayers goes for 10 off the over.. QLD 1/61

Re: Australian Domestic Season 2016/2017

PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 12:23 pm
by The Bedge
Khawaja 40 (64) looking very comfortable.

Re: Australian Domestic Season 2016/2017

PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 1:23 pm
by The Bedge
Have a spell Trav.. Khawaja cashing in on him now.. QLD raced to 1/106 since Lunch.

Re: Australian Domestic Season 2016/2017

PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 1:45 pm
by Eagles2014
Zartan wrote:Have a spell Trav.. Khawaja cashing in on him now.. QLD raced to 1/106 since Lunch.


Win the toss and bowl, early wicket pretty handy.

But at 1/120 you have to question if this was the right call by Trav now?