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Re: Australia v India 3rd Test Perth

Postby RustyCage » Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:08 pm

westozfalcon wrote:I'm not surprised that Tendulkar was annoyed after being fired on that LBW.

It was a poor decision which crushed any hopes India had of making a fightback in the match.


why was it a poor decision?
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Re: Australia v India 3rd Test Perth

Postby Yardy Lard » Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:08 pm

westozfalcon wrote:I'm not surprised that Tendulkar was annoyed after being fired on that LBW.

It was a poor decision which crushed any hopes India had of making a fightback in the match.



How was it a poor decision? - even when using DRS, he would have been given out.

He is only unhappy about being given out LBW, as in the last 23 years he has played Test Cricket, it would be inconceivable that he given out LBW by either Indian umpires, or when playing in India under neutral umpires.

As for making a fightback in the match - that is long gone. They have had 3 Tests to earn some credibility but have been outplayed and not even taken a test into Day 5, with this one likely to be over on Day 3. "Crushing any hope" is a bit melodramatic I would think, as they have found little fight over the last 3-4 weeks. The tail enders of the Indians show no fight and dead set are scared. Watch Zaheer backing away - great advertisement to play for your country.
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Re: Australia v India 3rd Test Perth

Postby Jim05 » Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:10 pm

westozfalcon wrote:I'm not surprised that Tendulkar was annoyed after being fired on that LBW.

It was a poor decision which crushed any hopes India had of making a fightback in the match.

Sucked in to him, reckon its hilarious seeing them get pumelled, hope we destroy them before lunch tomorrow.
Makes up for some of the shockers we got in the first 2 matches.
Funny thing is even with the DRS he still would have been out.
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Re: Australia v India 3rd Test Perth

Postby Jim05 » Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:14 pm

Yardy Lard wrote:
westozfalcon wrote:I'm not surprised that Tendulkar was annoyed after being fired on that LBW.

It was a poor decision which crushed any hopes India had of making a fightback in the match.



How was it a poor decision? - even when using DRS, he would have been given out.

He is only unhappy about being given out LBW, as in the last 23 years he has played Test Cricket, it would be inconceivable that he given out LBW by either Indian umpires, or when playing in India under neutral umpires.

Exactly, he has had the cheating Indian umpires prop up his average for the last 23 years, most opposition sides dont even bother appealing in India when he gets hit on the pads even with the neutral umpires thesedays. Protected species
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Re: Re: Australia v India 3rd Test Perth

Postby Rik E Boy » Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:02 am

am Bays wrote:
rod_rooster wrote:I reckon Marsh is the only Australian hoping India fight it out and build a lead tomorrow. If he doesn't get another innings his spot is surely gone. If he gets picked again what message is that sending to blokes who actually perform at first class level?


Who's currently performing at first class level demanding to be picked??? That is a problem we have at the moment, whilst we are travelling allright bowling stocks wise we have no depth in the batting.


The question should be who at first class level has scored more than 14 runs in four knocks...

the line begins here.

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Re: Australia v India 3rd Test Perth

Postby Rik E Boy » Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:04 am

westozfalcon wrote:I'm not surprised that Tendulkar was annoyed after being fired on that LBW.

It was a poor decision which crushed any hopes India had of making a fightback in the match.


Nothing wrong with that decision. DRS would have confirmed the umpires call. He tossed the toys out of the cot and lost a lot of respect in the process.

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Re: Re: Australia v India 3rd Test Perth

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:48 am

westozfalcon wrote:I'm not surprised that Tendulkar was annoyed after being fired on that LBW.

It was a poor decision which crushed any hopes India had of making a fightback in the match.

Hope your not serious.
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Re: Australia v India 3rd Test Perth

Postby locky801 » Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:29 am

Rik E Boy wrote:
westozfalcon wrote:I'm not surprised that Tendulkar was annoyed after being fired on that LBW.

It was a poor decision which crushed any hopes India had of making a fightback in the match.


Nothing wrong with that decision. DRS would have confirmed the umpires call. He tossed the toys out of the cot and lost a lot of respect in the process.

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Perhaps he was just pissed off at himself, 6 Test Innings at the WACA and he has been out LBW 5 times :shock:
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Re: Australia v India 3rd Test Perth

Postby Jimmy » Sun Jan 15, 2012 6:19 am

Tendulkars reaction was pathetic. What a sook!
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Re: Australia v India 3rd Test Perth

Postby stan » Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:08 am

Jimmy wrote:Tendulkars reaction was pathetic. What a sook!


Yes an apparently he was still un happy when he saw the replay in teh change rooms. Perhaps he even thinks "how dare they give ME out LBW". I suspect the umpire who made that decision will now be sack and replaced with another for the rest of the series.

As for the indians in general. They bowled well yesterday, but it is clear the deck is pretty tough to bat on. Only really 2 of our guys going going. Still they have struggle with there batting. Laxman is probably going to call time before his next international tour unless its sri lanka or something like that. I suspect he'll still be around for the next home series they have and make huge runs at home of flat lifeless decks.

Marsh well gees he was pretty streaky in that struggling 11 he made. He is in bad need of some first class cricket.

Thought Starc bowled well yesterday late, when he finds his line and really is a handful. Just needs that more consistancy. But you know its all good.
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Re: Australia v India 3rd Test Perth

Postby Squids » Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:25 am

I found it funny apparently the first thing he did in the change-room was look at it on a tv...probably using the same technology they don't believe in.

It was hitting the stumps for mine so it is OUT.
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Re: Australia v India 3rd Test Perth

Postby mal » Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:46 am

Some things dont change
MARSH getting caught Hughesesque in the keeper to gully area
PONTING playing across the line and getting bowled or lbw
CLARKE pushing at a ball outside off and getting caught by keeper or slips
HUSSEY Mr Cricket or Mr Snicket ?

Forget the position of this current Test
Some of these guys are still getting out the same predictable ways


MARSH
We are very likley to be 3-0 up
I would play Marsh In Adelaide
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Re: Re: Australia v India 3rd Test Perth

Postby rod_rooster » Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:26 am

Rik E Boy wrote:
am Bays wrote:
rod_rooster wrote:I reckon Marsh is the only Australian hoping India fight it out and build a lead tomorrow. If he doesn't get another innings his spot is surely gone. If he gets picked again what message is that sending to blokes who actually perform at first class level?


Who's currently performing at first class level demanding to be picked??? That is a problem we have at the moment, whilst we are travelling allright bowling stocks wise we have no depth in the batting.


The question should be who at first class level has scored more than 14 runs in four knocks...

the line begins here.

regards,

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This is the point. I'd pick any mammal with opposable thumbs ahead of Marsh. Yes, you can say no first class cricket is being played so no-one is putting up their hand but what has Marsh ever done in first class cricket to get picked in the Test side? If he gets picked even guys playing poorly at first class level are a very good chance surely. Clearly playing consistently well at first class level is not a requirement to get a baggy green as the selectors love affair with Marsh will attest. I've said it before and will reiterate, Marsh is a massive dud. Stick to playing tee-ball Shaun.
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Re: Australia v India 3rd Test Perth

Postby mal » Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:41 pm

Shaun Marsh

First Class
109 innings
3639 runs
38.30 average
6 x 100
20 x 50
46.32 strike rate

Test career
8 innings
287 runs
35.87 average
1 x 100
1 x 50
41.05 strike rate

Test innings
SRI LANKA
141
81 + 18
SOUTH AFRICA
44 + 0
INDIA
0 + 3
0
11

Was picked to play Test Cricket with a modest record in his First Class career
An excellent selection after his performances v Sri Lanka, including a century on debut
Batted well on a demons deck for 44 v South Africa, but was injured in that innings [surprise surprise]
Since that injury he has done nothing but invoke the ire of Rod !

Is he a flat track bully ?
He killed them on SL
But on lively decks in the next 3 series hes been a ''dud''

The future
Too hit or miss for my liking
Gets out too often too early in the Hughes Highway running from west to east between keeper and point
He needs a gig in the middle order perhaps at this level
Im not sure about his capabilities against bowlers bowling 140 +
I noticed in that terrific 20/20 innings he last played he was very shaky against Shaun Tait
So Im not sure about him against good attacks, or on iffy pitch conditions
One thing he will be, a prolific scorer if he gets enough opportunities on flat decks against non scary bowlers


Verdict
Deserves a few more opportunities given the ample chances some of team mates have had in this team when they struggled
2 failures at Adelaide Oval will be the end
2 good innings and hes saved
Even so, cant see him batting at 3 against the Poms in England and being the answer
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Re: Australia v India 3rd Test Perth

Postby locky801 » Sun Jan 15, 2012 1:23 pm

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Re: Australia v India 3rd Test Perth

Postby westozfalcon » Sun Jan 15, 2012 1:59 pm

Yardy Lard wrote:
westozfalcon wrote:I'm not surprised that Tendulkar was annoyed after being fired on that LBW.

It was a poor decision which crushed any hopes India had of making a fightback in the match.



How was it a poor decision? - even when using DRS, he would have been given out.

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I feel that it was a poor decision because from where the umpire stood he must surely have considered that the ball was going to miss leg stump.

In the absence of DRS, the overriding principle has always been that the batsman gets the benefit of the doubt and there should have been enough doubt for the umpire to keep the finger down.
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Re: Australia v India 3rd Test Perth

Postby locky801 » Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:01 pm

50 to Kholi

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Re: Australia v India 3rd Test Perth

Postby rod_rooster » Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:17 pm

mal wrote:Shaun Marsh


Verdict
Deserves a few more opportunities given the ample chances some of team mates have had in this team when they struggled


I'd agree if he'd done something to deserve selection in the first place. Fact is he didn't.
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Re: Australia v India 3rd Test Perth

Postby locky801 » Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:20 pm

Harris knocks Dravid's castle over

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Re: Australia v India 3rd Test Perth

Postby rod_rooster » Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:21 pm

westozfalcon wrote:
Yardy Lard wrote:
westozfalcon wrote:I'm not surprised that Tendulkar was annoyed after being fired on that LBW.

It was a poor decision which crushed any hopes India had of making a fightback in the match.



How was it a poor decision? - even when using DRS, he would have been given out.

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I feel that it was a poor decision because from where the umpire stood he must surely have considered that the ball was going to miss leg stump.

In the absence of DRS, the overriding principle has always been that the batsman gets the benefit of the doubt and there should have been enough doubt for the umpire to keep the finger down.


He obviously didn't and he was right. Very good decision. I find it strange that anyone can criticise an umpire when their decision is clearly proven correct by multiple replays.
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