Batsmen Keeper vs Keeper

[Jim05]

Interesting discussion on the ABC with commentators saying Wade is a superb batsman but not the best of keepers.

Must admit havent seen him keep but going on what has been posted around the place he must be half decent

I posted that yesterday. Im not convinced Wade is any better than Haddin as far as glovework goes.

[locky801]

Cheers thanks Jim, they wont drop Haddin in anycase

[Hondo]

Interesting the talk about gilly saving Australia on so many occasions. Mate of mine told me the other day that whenever Gilchrist scored 100, one other Aussie bat did so as well. I haven't checked if it is true but when he was "saving" innings, he wasn't doing so alone.

Well, if Gilly didn't do his bit the other guy wouldn't have been able to do it alone.

This was just one of his memorable innings (From: http://www.itsonlycricket.com/entry/667/)

Best test Innings : November 21-22, 1999. Adam Gilchrist walks out to bat against a Pakistani attack of Wasim Akram, Waqar Younis, Shoaib Akhtar & Saqlain Mustaq.. chasing target of 369 in fouth innings of that Hobart test match. Australia were 5 wickets down for 126 overs and looked out of that test match. Gilchrist, along with opener Justin Langer - put on 238 run partnership & Australia won by 4 wickets.. Gilchrist remained no out on 149 off just 163 balls. This was one of greatest counter-attacking batsmanship you'll ever see on a cricket field.

[Jim05]

Cheers thanks Jim, they wont drop Haddin in anycase

Yeah they will stick with him for a while yet

[Bum Crack]

Cheers thanks Jim, they wont drop Haddin in anycase

Yeah they will stick with him for a while yet

They sure will. Just like they stick with every other veteran who is out of form. eventually he will take a few catches and make some runs and then the selectors can justify why he was kept in the team, even if it does take two or three years for him to do it.

[Jim05]

Cheers thanks Jim, they wont drop Haddin in anycase

Yeah they will stick with him for a while yet

They sure will. Just like they stick with every other veteran who is out of form. eventually he will take a few catches and make some runs and then the selectors can justify why he was kept in the team, even if it does take two or three years for him to do it.

Dont think he will be there that long, would be very suprised if he is still the keeper by the end of the year

[mighty_tiger_79]

Wade is more then capable with the gloves, only a 2 seasons ago he set a new vic record for dismissals

[redandblack]

Bit hard to rate keepers on dismissal stats, though.

Can't catch them if the bowlers don't do much.

[brod]

I would personally rare Wade a slightly better keeper than Haddin (but not enough to force a selection change at the moment).

Peter Nevill is interesting, is 26 and played only 18 FC matches (averages 49.3 with the bat), but has had a great season so far for NSW both with the gloves and bat. many say he is a better glovesman than Haddin and Wade.

And then ther is 21yo Tom Triffitt who is benefitting the most from Paine not being able to play, could quite possibly be the next Australian keeper. His glovework is superior to his batting (FC ave 28.16, but has played only 9 matches)

[rod_rooster]

Some gems from Twitter:


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Any mammal with opposable thumbs. RT @pranmaz With Tim Paine injured, who r good replacement options for Haddin?


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Brad Haddin might as well be keeping wicket with giant foam fingers.

[Jim05]

I would personally rare Wade a slightly better keeper than Haddin (but not enough to force a selection change at the moment).

Peter Nevill is interesting, is 26 and played only 18 FC matches (averages 49.3 with the bat), but has had a great season far for NSW both with the gloves and bat. many say he is a better glovesman than Haddin and Wade.

And then ther is 21yo Tom Triffitt who is benefitting the most from Paine not being able to play, could quite possibly be the next Australian keeper. His glovework is superior to his batting (FC ave 28.16, but has played only 9 matches)

I rate him higher than Wade with the gloves. Reckon by time Haddin retires he could go straight in

[am Bays]

Haddin will see the series out

Australia don't drop 'Keepers mid series, if a keeper is to be replaced it is done at the start of a new one.

Last time they changed 'keepers mid series (apart from injury) was in 1984 when Woolley got dropped and Phillips (already in the side) was given the gloves and another batsman was picked (Jones IIRC). Prior to that the previous time a 'keeper was replaced directly with another 'keeper was for the Adelaide test in 1979 when after not making a run all series John McLean was dropped and Kevin Wright was given a go. In both those situations Australia was behind in the series which isn't the case here.

Haddin will play the next two test but it wouldn't surprise me if, providing his thumb has healed, Paine is picked as the 'keeper for the West Indies tour.

[RustyCage]

Haddin will see the series out

Australia don't drop 'Keepers mid series, if a keeper is to be replaced it is done at the start of a new one.

Last time they changed 'keepers mid series (apart from injury) was in 1984 when Woolley got dropped and Phillips (already in the side) was given the gloves and another batsman was picked (Jones IIRC). Prior to that the previous time a 'keeper was replaced directly with another 'keeper was for the Adelaide test in 1979 when after not making a run all series John McLean was dropped and Kevin Wright was given a go. In both those situations Australia was behind in the series which isn't the case here.

Haddin will play the next two test but it wouldn't surprise me if, providing his thumb has healed, Paine is picked as the 'keeper for the West Indies tour.

It's looking more likely that Paine will never keep again

[rod_rooster]