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Re: New Zealand in India

Postby Media Park » Mon Nov 15, 2010 8:27 pm

How long has it been since Sachin bowled in a Test?
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Re: New Zealand in India

Postby mal » Mon Nov 15, 2010 8:38 pm

Am I seeing things ?
Ross Taylor at the crease, 2 quick wickets and NZ are in all sorts
Dhoni brings on his unstrike bowler Tendulkar

Tendulkar is a unique cricketer
He averages over 50 with bat and ball ...
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Re: New Zealand in India

Postby Media Park » Mon Nov 15, 2010 8:47 pm

mal wrote:Am I seeing things ?
Ross Taylor at the crease, 2 quick wickets and NZ are in all sorts
Dhoni brings on his unstrike bowler Tendulkar

Tendulkar is a unique cricketer
He averages over 50 with bat and ball ...


Rare, but not unique... ;)
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Re: New Zealand in India

Postby brod » Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:40 pm

Media Park wrote:
mal wrote:Am I seeing things ?
Ross Taylor at the crease, 2 quick wickets and NZ are in all sorts
Dhoni brings on his unstrike bowler Tendulkar

Tendulkar is a unique cricketer
He averages over 50 with bat and ball ...


Rare, but not unique... ;)


Sorry Mal, but plenty of others can claim 50/50, including
IVA Richards 50.23/61.37
Jessie Ryder 52.68/53.60
Sunil Gavaskar 51.12/206
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Re: New Zealand in India

Postby Media Park » Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:46 pm

Sunny was the one I had pegged, and Hussey will be there (briefly) if he has a decent First Test...
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Re: New Zealand in India

Postby brod » Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:49 pm

Media Park wrote:Sunny was the one I had pegged, and Hussey will be there (briefly) if he has a decent First Test...


Hussey 49.75/51.50
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Re: New Zealand in India

Postby wycbloods » Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:17 pm

Brendan McCullum has just brought up his double century. His highest test score so far.
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Re: New Zealand in India

Postby smithy » Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:28 pm

wycbloods wrote:Brendan McCullum has just brought up his double century. His highest test score so far.


NostraMALdamus strikes again.

mal wrote:Mccullum a very good limited overs batsman, is not a frontline opening Test Batsman in my opinion
They should go for broke and select another bowler



Love your work MAL ;)
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Re: New Zealand in India

Postby RoosterMarty » Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:46 pm

He is finally out for 225.
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Re: New Zealand in India

Postby brod » Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:18 pm

India v New Zealand
2nd Test
Hyderabad


MATCH DRAWN

New Zealand 350
TG McIntosh 102
MG Guptill 85
JD Ryder 70
Z Khan 4/69
Harbhajan Singh 4/76
India 472
Harbhajan Singh 111
V Sehwag 96
VVS Laxman 74
G Gambhir 54
DL Vettori 5/139
TG Southee 3/119
New Zealand 8d/448
BB McCullum 225
KS Williamson 68
S Sreesanth 3/121
India 0/76
V Sehwag 54* (54 balls)

MAN OF THE MATCH - BB McCullum
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Re: New Zealand in India

Postby mal » Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:47 pm

What an embarrasment for Test Cricket
28 wickets
1346 runs
What a series when a number 8 batsman who averaged about 17 at the start of the series can make back to back tons

NZ who are a feeble batting side can produce high scores almost at will
Even Brendan Mcullum made a double ton
Good luck to him he proved me wrong
But when he has to face decent bowlers on pitches that give some bowler assistance we will then be able to make a correct assessment of where he is

Another run fest, and they wonder why crowds are dwindling over there
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Re: New Zealand in India

Postby smithy » Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:17 am

mal wrote:What an embarrasment for Test Cricket
28 wickets
1346 runs
What a series when a number 8 batsman who averaged about 17 at the start of the series can make back to back tons

NZ who are a feeble batting side can produce high scores almost at will
Even Brendan Mcullum made a double ton
Good luck to him he proved me wrong
But when he has to face decent bowlers on pitches that give some bowler assistance we will then be able to make a correct assessment of where he is

Another run fest, and they wonder why crowds are dwindling over there

Would India's bowling attack be much different from the one Australia just faced ?
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Re: New Zealand in India

Postby mal » Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:23 am

Same bowling attack, excepting Alice Cooper made way for Little Richard
Different pitches
The ones the Australians confronted were featherbeds that took a fair bit of spin days 4+5
This series they have appeared to have been flat and taking very little spin

Perhaps the fact that Daniel Vettori is a top class spinner is why they have not produce spinifaction decks ?
When Australia played it was an off spinning showdown between Singh and Hauritz, hence the decks were late turners
Well I mean, who would you back in to take wickets
Then you have the 2nd spinner O vrs the part time AU spinners

India the number one rated Test team cant even beat NZ who have one Test standard bowler
This has to be a reflection of the pitches that are prepared

As for the NZ batsman in the last 50 years
They would nearly all have low batting averages, but if they had played 50% of thier Tests In india, on these current decks , they would all average about 10 more than they have
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Re: New Zealand in India

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:41 am

brod wrote:
Media Park wrote:
mal wrote:Am I seeing things ?
Ross Taylor at the crease, 2 quick wickets and NZ are in all sorts
Dhoni brings on his unstrike bowler Tendulkar

Tendulkar is a unique cricketer
He averages over 50 with bat and ball ...


Rare, but not unique... ;)


Sorry Mal, but plenty of others can claim 50/50, including
IVA Richards 50.23/61.37
Jessie Ryder 52.68/53.60
Sunil Gavaskar 51.12/206


I'd say that 80% of all players that average over 50 with the bat would probably average over 50 with the ball also. It would be a rarer achievement to average over with the bat and under with the ball.
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Re: New Zealand in India

Postby spell_check » Wed Nov 17, 2010 5:15 pm

Although he didn't average 50 with the bat at Test level, for a noted batsman, Darren Lehmann had a handy bowling average at all levels and formats:

Test: 44.95/27.46
ODI: 38.96/27.78
1st C: 57.83/34.92
List A: 47.03/27.54
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Re: New Zealand in India

Postby Gozu » Wed Nov 17, 2010 5:26 pm

Boof was averaging 51 in Test cricket before the shoulder injury though towards the end of his international career. He kept playing with painkilling injections and was then ruled out of the NZ tour in '05 and then had surgery once he missed out on selection for the Ashes tour that year.
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Re: New Zealand in India

Postby godoubleblues » Sat Nov 20, 2010 7:23 pm

the 3rd test has started today
NZ off to a very poor start, currently 5-57 just before lunch
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Re: New Zealand in India

Postby Media Park » Sat Nov 20, 2010 8:30 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
brod wrote:
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mal wrote:Am I seeing things ?
Ross Taylor at the crease, 2 quick wickets and NZ are in all sorts
Dhoni brings on his unstrike bowler Tendulkar

Tendulkar is a unique cricketer
He averages over 50 with bat and ball ...


Rare, but not unique... ;)


Sorry Mal, but plenty of others can claim 50/50, including
IVA Richards 50.23/61.37
Jessie Ryder 52.68/53.60
Sunil Gavaskar 51.12/206


I'd say that 80% of all players that average over 50 with the bat would probably average over 50 with the ball also. It would be a rarer achievement to average over with the bat and under with the ball.


Apart from the statistical oddities, I can think of Sobers and Kallis.

One DG Bradman is also in the category, but only took two wickets, so he doesn't really cut the mustard...

Kallis/Sobers aside, I'd like to see any others...
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Re: New Zealand in India

Postby spell_check » Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:02 pm

McCullum twinged his back in the warm up, but put his hand up to play. Subsequently he came in at no.8, and with Ryder is restoring the innings to 6/109.
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Re: New Zealand in India

Postby godoubleblues » Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:21 pm

spell_check wrote:McCullum twinged his back in the warm up, but put his hand up to play. Subsequently he came in at no.8, and with Ryder is restoring the innings to 6/109.


and Ryder is also injured, neither can take quick singles and apparently neither can use a runner as they came into this game with known injuries
and apparently according to one commentator neither can be substituted on the field as well
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