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Postby mal » Wed Dec 27, 2006 8:18 pm

EG 159
AU 7/372
HAYDEN 153
SYMONDS 154*
WARNE 4*
FLINTOFF 3/77
MAHMOOD 2/67

Im puzzled how the talented English attack with 3 brutes who bowl
between 140-150 kms +a handy swinger in Hoggard + Panesar a good spinner continue to
concede masive scores to the dads army brigade.
Once again England was robbed by the umpires.
Hayden lbw twice before 10
Symonds lbw on 142
Warne caught behind for 0

Warne 34 ducks is equal with Mcgrath, Glen will be miffed!

The day belonged to the AH/SYD DOG/MAL superstar Andrew Roy Simmo Symonds
The new supersonic allrounder with an emphatic 154*[215]
Can Warrrrrrney/Clark + Mcgrath give the chosen one enough support
so Roy can make the extra 104 needed to surpass the record MCG score off 257
made by Sir Richard Ponting :?:
The chosen one has never been dismissed between 72 +154 in test cricket :wink:
The chosen one even in failure is just one of those guys who everyone loves, they
could carry forever, just look at his teammates when this guy fires.

Fast forward England in 2009 will they devise a bodyline tactic for Simmo :roll:

England has unearthed a future star bowler in Mahmood, like Simmo he just
needs that one good bowling spell to be a feared opponent.
As I told AH a little while back he bowls 140+ and will be a terrific fast bowler.
The ball he got Hayden with was a gem.

AU leads by 213, a lead of say 275 would mean prob an innings win.
Can Roy beat Pontings 257 ....

The 6 current top order Australian batsman + Gilchrist have all scored 100s this series.
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Postby Magpiespower » Wed Dec 27, 2006 11:33 pm

Another disgraceful effort by Flintoff as captain.

Would say it's park grade stuff.

But that would be an insult to park grade cricket.
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Postby rod_rooster » Thu Dec 28, 2006 12:13 am

mal wrote:
Im puzzled how the talented English attack with 3 brutes who bowl
between 140-150 kms +a handy swinger in Hoggard + Panesar a good spinner continue to
concede masive scores to the dads army brigade.

England has unearthed a future star bowler in Mahmood, like Simmo he just
needs that one good bowling spell to be a feared opponent.
As I told AH a little while back he bowls 140+ and will be a terrific fast bowler.
The ball he got Hayden with was a gem.



Once again mal what is the obsession with guys that bowl at 140+? Pace does not get wickets at Test level. The reason the English attack is struggling is that they are simply not very good. Far too inconsistent with line and length. Captaincy also is extremely poor (almost embarrassingly so). Seriously you like to argue about averages when talking up your favourites like Watson but conveniently forget to mention that Flintoff averages over 32 with the ball in Test cricket. Pretty much the same as Brett Lee who you continue to talk down.
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Postby mal » Thu Dec 28, 2006 12:50 am

ROD I talk about LEEs efforts in the last couple of years when referring to him.
He is underperforming in that period of time and needs to improve.
Lee is a new ball bowler who should be averaging 25-28 not about 35-45 as he has
in recent times.
Flintoff is a better batsman, has bowled 1st + 2nd change nearly all of his career
and a change bowlers average at about 30 is very good.
Plus Flintoff bowls at Australian batsman whilst Lee bowls at English batsman.
Who would you rather bowl at Rod?

And just for the record I have no vendetta or a disliking to Lee.
I have on numerous occasions posted that I consider him to be the best o/d
bowler in the world
He averaged 24 in 2006 my MATE Watson averaged 19.
Thats a differential of 5 BUT I still consider Lee the superior bowler.

As for Australia making massive scores Im still mystified.
Maybe your description of line and length, the captaining etc is the reason.
Maybe Simon Jones makes 100- 250 runs difference.
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Postby Adelaide Hawk » Thu Dec 28, 2006 2:30 am

mal wrote:Once again England was robbed by the umpires.


Yeah. If it wasn't for those pesky umpires, England would have won this series 5-0.
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Postby another grub » Thu Dec 28, 2006 9:23 am

Mahmood should be given the keys to Australia.... he's been that good to us...(besides the Hayden dismissal delivery).....HE IS A DUD!!! he wouldnt make our state side.
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Postby Rik E Boy » Thu Dec 28, 2006 9:32 am

England have no legitimate gripes about the umpiring during this test. Rudi hasn't ever been one for giving out LBW, even when they are out (which is of course, not good umpiring). I reckon there have been at least four or five LBWs not given by Rudi Koertzen in the last two test matches. Not great, but consistent..bloody short memories these whining Poms.

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Postby mal » Thu Dec 28, 2006 9:45 am

Rik E Boy wrote:England have no legitimate gripes about the umpiring during this test. Rudi hasn't ever been one for giving out LBW, even when they are out (which is of course, not good umpiring). I reckon there have been at least four or five LBWs not given by Rudi Koertzen in the last two test matches. Not great, but consistent..bloody short memories these whining Poms.

regards,

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AU 7/372
SYMONDS LBW 52....154*...102 MORE
HAYDEN LBW 6 +9...153.....144 MORE


372 LESS 246=126 hmn.....
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Postby Adelaide Hawk » Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:06 am

Wouldn't it be nice to have Brett Lee walking in next ... where he SHOULD be? A 20 or 30 from him would have really hammered home Australia's advantage.
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Postby Adelaide Hawk » Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:26 am

another grub wrote:Mahmood should be given the keys to Australia.... he's been that good to us...(besides the Hayden dismissal delivery).....HE IS A DUD!!! he wouldnt make our state side.


It's not his fault. Apparently someone stole the bowling tactics from the change rooms, and now he doesn't know what to do :)
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Postby another grub » Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:33 am

Adelaide Hawk wrote:Wouldn't it be nice to have Brett Lee walking in next ... where he SHOULD be? A 20 or 30 from him would have really hammered home Australia's advantage.


Yes it would.....
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Postby Adelaide Hawk » Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:40 am

8/404

Warne goes to 28 which makes him 3rd top scorer for the innings. Thank goodness for Hayden and Symonds' knocks.
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Postby Adelaide Hawk » Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:48 am

Why is Mahmood "bowling"? He's useless. Get Hoggard on.
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Postby Adelaide Hawk » Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:52 am

Mahmood finally pitches up and gets a wicket. He finally decided to stop bowling like an idiot. There's hope for everyone when a bowler like Mahmood can get 3 Test scalps in an innings.

Chris Read has 6 catches, good effort.

9/417

Where's Lee? Oh that's right, he was sacrificed on Tuesday night. Might cost Warne his 50.
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Postby Thiele » Thu Dec 28, 2006 11:11 am

All out for 419 a lead of 260 Top scores Symonds with 156 Hayden 153 :)
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Postby am Bays » Thu Dec 28, 2006 1:31 pm

POMS 3/49 Pietersen out to a corker from Clark

Game will be over tonight....
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
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Postby mal » Thu Dec 28, 2006 2:55 pm

Adelaide Hawk wrote:Why is Mahmood "bowling"? He's useless. Get Hoggard on.


Mahmood 4/100
Keep trying AH, being made to look stupid is an art, Ive done it myself.

Good to see Warrrrrrrrrrrrrney make 40* after being given not out caught behind for 0

AU made 419 the Hayden[6] Symonds[52] Warne[0] let offs only made 289 difference.

Then COOK plum LBW to Mcgrath in EG 2nd dig given not out was the last straw.
The umpires have f....d up this test match.
I gave up and bought a car instead of watching the game.
I left after the COOK decision was unbelievably given not out.

PS. CLARK the best quick bowler in the team does it again.
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Postby rod_rooster » Thu Dec 28, 2006 2:58 pm

mal wrote:ROD I talk about LEEs efforts in the last couple of years when referring to him.
He is underperforming in that period of time and needs to improve.
Lee is a new ball bowler who should be averaging 25-28 not about 35-45 as he has
in recent times.
Flintoff is a better batsman, has bowled 1st + 2nd change nearly all of his career
and a change bowlers average at about 30 is very good.
Plus Flintoff bowls at Australian batsman whilst Lee bowls at English batsman.
Who would you rather bowl at Rod?

And just for the record I have no vendetta or a disliking to Lee.
I have on numerous occasions posted that I consider him to be the best o/d
bowler in the world
He averaged 24 in 2006 my MATE Watson averaged 19.
Thats a differential of 5 BUT I still consider Lee the superior bowler.

As for Australia making massive scores Im still mystified.
Maybe your description of line and length, the captaining etc is the reason.
Maybe Simon Jones makes 100- 250 runs difference.


Yes mal, obviously i would prefer to bowl to English batsmen than Australian, but Flintoff has also had the chance to bowl to many other countries batsmen as well. Facts are his stats are not that impressive. Serviceable yes but not a star by any stretch of the imagination. One good series does not make a player a star.

As for Simon Jones making 100 - 250 run difference no. The difference is that those bowlers who bowled exceptionally well last time have failed to do so this series. Harmison has been awful, Hoggard good, Flintoff alright in patches. Those three all bowled very very well in 2005. Add Simon Jones to that list and it was a far different attack. Also add in the captaincy of Vaughan. The English attack performed extremelly well in favourable conditions, with favourable balls and against a batting line up out of form. Very different circumstances this summer and the English attack has failed miserably.
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Postby RoosterMarty » Thu Dec 28, 2006 2:59 pm

mal wrote:
Adelaide Hawk wrote:Why is Mahmood "bowling"? He's useless. Get Hoggard on.


Mahmood 4/100
Keep trying AH, being made to look stupid is an art, Ive done it myself.


You can't tell me Mahmood actually bowled well? Good ball to pick up Hayden but he left it late, then got a few cheap wickets. He was bowling too full or too short to tail enders, he is useless and doesn't look like having a big future, of course he still has time to improve i guess.
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Postby Adelaide Hawk » Thu Dec 28, 2006 3:05 pm

mal wrote:
Adelaide Hawk wrote:Why is Mahmood "bowling"? He's useless. Get Hoggard on.


Mahmood 4/100
Keep trying AH, being made to look stupid is an art, Ive done it myself.



Are you kidding me Mal? He bowled thorough poop and got some cheap wickets at the end. He's not up to Test standard.
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