3RD O/D GAME NZ V AU 20/2/07

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Postby rod_rooster » Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:26 pm

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:it appears as if MAL will only be posting when WATSON or another of his boys are playing!!!!!!!

thankgod for the peace and quiet!!!!!!!!!!! :wink:


Well we all know what happened when he found out Watson was opening :shock: Given that he made few runs as well mal would be exhausted and very sore by now. Friction burns can be quite painful. :shock:
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Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:52 pm

HUSSEY caught PATEL off a full-toss and he isnt happy, he was wanting the no-ball call!!!!!
Matty Wade is a star and deserves more respect from the forum family!
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Postby rod_rooster » Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:20 pm

MAY-Z wrote:great to see watson performing well in the spot he should be, the same cant be said for hayden who is playing another stoicly selfish innings


Terrible innings by Hayden. Watson's 68 (69) was so much more valuable than the 181* (166) that Hayden selfishly and stoically accumulated. Fancy being so selfish as to make the highest score by an Australian in a one day international. Watson clearly the player of the match so far.
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Postby another grub » Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:21 pm

Well don Haydos.....you CHAMPION!!!!!
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Postby rod_rooster » Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:21 pm

Clearly from What we've seen today Watson should be opening with Gilchrist in the West Indies. No room for that washed up hack Hayden.
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Postby Dogwatcher » Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:24 pm

rod_rooster wrote:
MAY-Z wrote:great to see watson performing well in the spot he should be, the same cant be said for hayden who is playing another stoicly selfish innings


Terrible innings by Hayden. Watson's 68 (69) was so much more valuable than the 181* (166) that Hayden selfishly and stoically accumulated. Fancy being so selfish as to make the highest score by an Australian in a one day international. Watson clearly the player of the match so far.


Rod I concur with your opinion.
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Postby devilsadvocate » Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:27 pm

Come on, I think there need to be a couple of apologies to Haydos the great!
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Postby MAY-Z » Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:38 pm

rod_rooster wrote:
MAY-Z wrote:great to see watson performing well in the spot he should be, the same cant be said for hayden who is playing another stoicly selfish innings


Terrible innings by Hayden. Watson's 68 (69) was so much more valuable than the 181* (166) that Hayden selfishly and stoically accumulated. Fancy being so selfish as to make the highest score by an Australian in a one day international. Watson clearly the player of the match so far.


so when they both in together they were playing an attack anyone could get runs on but because the opposition refused to catch hayden it was a great innings, lets face it the attack that new zealand put out would be no better than a poor australian domestic attack with nz's two world class bowlers not playing
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Postby rod_rooster » Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:38 pm

devilsadvocate wrote:Come on, I think there need to be a couple of apologies to Haydos the great!


Starting with:

MAY-Z wrote:2. thats what happens when you pick players when they are out of form. if he was chosen at the start of the summer as opposed to persisting with the washed up hack hayden we would see a far nmore confident jacques- remember he made 95 on odi debut only to be cast aside- what sort of sonfidence does that give the bloke
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Postby MAY-Z » Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:44 pm

rod_rooster wrote:
devilsadvocate wrote:Come on, I think there need to be a couple of apologies to Haydos the great!


Starting with:

MAY-Z wrote:2. thats what happens when you pick players when they are out of form. if he was chosen at the start of the summer as opposed to persisting with the washed up hack hayden we would see a far nmore confident jacques- remember he made 95 on odi debut only to be cast aside- what sort of sonfidence does that give the bloke


anyone will get runs if they are given enough chances (both by the oppposition and the selectors) doesnt mean i think he should be playing in the side. dizzy scored 201* in his last test innings but i dont see people saying he should keep his spot in the team
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Postby Dogwatcher » Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:44 pm

MAY-Z wrote:
rod_rooster wrote:
MAY-Z wrote:great to see watson performing well in the spot he should be, the same cant be said for hayden who is playing another stoicly selfish innings


Terrible innings by Hayden. Watson's 68 (69) was so much more valuable than the 181* (166) that Hayden selfishly and stoically accumulated. Fancy being so selfish as to make the highest score by an Australian in a one day international. Watson clearly the player of the match so far.


so when they both in together they were playing an attack anyone could get runs on but because the opposition refused to catch hayden it was a great innings, lets face it the attack that new zealand put out would be no better than a poor australian domestic attack with nz's two world class bowlers not playing


It's a pity Watson got OUT to a second rate attack and wasn't able to capitalise then isn't it.
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Postby mal » Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:46 pm

Sorry I took so long to get back.
I was watching the WATSON innings that I taped

AU 5/346 wow

WATSON 68[69] good innings until ripped off by a poor umpiring decision
HAYDEN 181* [166] that will get his knockers shutting up for a while.
HADDIN 38[31 majestic as always a genuine talent

The rest came in with 11 overs to spare norMALly when WATSON comes in and.....
HODGE 12[10]
HUSSEY13[8]
WHITE13[8]
VOGES 16*[10] on debut well done

Could not expect much more could we.

I just hope all the WATSON critcics can see what i have been saying about
players who bat at 7 [or with 10 overs left] and what you can expect.

Did we also see the NZ 5th bowler
STYRIS+ MCcosiLLAN 10 OVERS 0/80
The 3 NZ 5TH bowlers last game 11 overs 1/120 odd :oops:

I dont give a hoot anymore about whats posted
Today proved a point
a number 7 batter + 5th bowler who averages 30 is doing a good job in o/d games


And he is not a HACK.
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Postby rod_rooster » Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:50 pm

MAY-Z wrote:
rod_rooster wrote:
devilsadvocate wrote:Come on, I think there need to be a couple of apologies to Haydos the great!


Starting with:

MAY-Z wrote:2. thats what happens when you pick players when they are out of form. if he was chosen at the start of the summer as opposed to persisting with the washed up hack hayden we would see a far nmore confident jacques- remember he made 95 on odi debut only to be cast aside- what sort of sonfidence does that give the bloke


anyone will get runs if they are given enough chances (both by the oppposition and the selectors) doesnt mean i think he should be playing in the side. dizzy scored 201* in his last test innings but i dont see people saying he should keep his spot in the team


Exactly right. That is exactly why Watson got runs today. Give the guy enough chances eventually he'll come up against an attack you have rightly pointed out was "no better than a poor australian domestic attack" on a batting paradise. He really should have gone on with it. He'll never get a better chance. Hayden, like it or not, has closed the door on any chance that anybody but he and Gilly will be opening the batting in the World Cup. Credit where is due. Hayden went on with it, Watson didn't. Come up with all the excuses you like but as those defending Watson love to point at stats how about this one. Hayden 181 not out Watson 68.
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Postby MAY-Z » Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:51 pm

Dogwatcher wrote:
MAY-Z wrote:
rod_rooster wrote:
MAY-Z wrote:great to see watson performing well in the spot he should be, the same cant be said for hayden who is playing another stoicly selfish innings


Terrible innings by Hayden. Watson's 68 (69) was so much more valuable than the 181* (166) that Hayden selfishly and stoically accumulated. Fancy being so selfish as to make the highest score by an Australian in a one day international. Watson clearly the player of the match so far.


so when they both in together they were playing an attack anyone could get runs on but because the opposition refused to catch hayden it was a great innings, lets face it the attack that new zealand put out would be no better than a poor australian domestic attack with nz's two world class bowlers not playing


It's a pity Watson got OUT to a second rate attack and wasn't able to capitalise then isn't it.


umm so did hussey & hodge for lower scores than what watson achieved; and you cant use the arguement that they didnt have time to build an innings as when watson bats down at around 7 he never does either
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Postby rod_rooster » Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:53 pm

mal wrote:Sorry I took so long to get back.
I was watching the WATSON innings that I taped

AU 5/346 wow

WATSON 68[69] good innings until ripped off by a poor umpiring decision
HAYDEN 181* [166] that will get his knockers shutting up for a while.
HADDIN 38[31 majestic as always a genuine talent

The rest came in with 11 overs to spare norMALly when WATSON comes in and.....
HODGE 12[10]
HUSSEY13[8]
WHITE13[8]
VOGES 16*[10] on debut well done

Could not expect much more could we.

I just hope all the WATSON critcics can see what i have been saying about
players who bat at 7 [or with 10 overs left] and what you can expect.

Did we also see the NZ 5th bowler
STYRIS+ MCcosiLLAN 10 OVERS 0/80
The 3 NZ 5TH bowlers last game 11 overs 1/120 odd :oops:

I dont give a hoot anymore about whats posted
Today proved a point
a number 7 batter + 5th bowler who averages 30 is doing a good job in o/d games


And he is not a HACK.


Seriously mal, enough with the f*cking averages. Cheap wickets in junk time like Watson got on Sunday will inflate his average. A players average with the bat or ball is not a true indication of his worth. Watson does not bowl up to international standard. This has been demonstrated time and time again.
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Postby rod_rooster » Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:55 pm

MAY-Z wrote:
Dogwatcher wrote:
MAY-Z wrote:
rod_rooster wrote:
MAY-Z wrote:great to see watson performing well in the spot he should be, the same cant be said for hayden who is playing another stoicly selfish innings


Terrible innings by Hayden. Watson's 68 (69) was so much more valuable than the 181* (166) that Hayden selfishly and stoically accumulated. Fancy being so selfish as to make the highest score by an Australian in a one day international. Watson clearly the player of the match so far.


so when they both in together they were playing an attack anyone could get runs on but because the opposition refused to catch hayden it was a great innings, lets face it the attack that new zealand put out would be no better than a poor australian domestic attack with nz's two world class bowlers not playing


It's a pity Watson got OUT to a second rate attack and wasn't able to capitalise then isn't it.


umm so did hussey & hodge for lower scores than what watson achieved; and you cant use the arguement that they didnt have time to build an innings as when watson bats down at around 7 he never does either


Yes, but they all scored at greater than a run a ball in that situation. Something Watson struggles to do the vast majority of the time.
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Postby Dogwatcher » Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:00 pm

MAY-Z wrote: umm so did hussey & hodge for lower scores than what watson achieved; and you cant use the arguement that they didnt have time to build an innings as when watson bats down at around 7 he never does either


I wouldn't criticise them for that. They all made useful contributions as they had a slap at the time when it was required and with Hayden running away with it at the other end, that's all that was required. I've never had a crack at Watson's batting - but his bowling is piss poor.
And he ain't an allrounder.

Gilchrist and Hayden will open in the World Cup, which at this stage means Watson can only go back down the order as an allrounder. And as I reckon his bowling's pus - I wouldn't pick him.
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Postby RoosterMarty » Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:38 pm

rod rooster well said... they didnt score that many runs but all scored at a S/R of over 100 and thats all that matters, especially when you have plenty of wickets left.. they came in and started smashing it from the first ball.

Surely we won't lose this one?

NZ 4/45

Tait removed both openers, Bracken took the 3rd.. then Johnson replaced Tait and got a wicket first ball.
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Postby scoob » Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:40 pm

Hayden to get MBE... ALL ABOARD... Gilchrist to bat 7 Watson to open with Sir Matt...
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Postby BobNorth » Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:53 pm

MALS PAL WATTO - 1ST OVER 0/11 bowling to 2 batsman who just came to the crease.
one day cricketer?? :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
Go long to Robran son!
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