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Re: 3rd Test: Australia v India

Postby therisingblues » Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:07 pm

STUMPS DAY ONE

India 1st innings ...............................R ...B ...4s ..6s SR
W Jaffer c Gilchrist b Lee ..................16 ..53 ..2 ...0 30.18
V Sehwag c Gilchrist b Johnson .........29 ..58 ..6 ...0 50.00
R Dravid c Ponting b Symonds ..........93 .183 .14 ..0 50.81
SR Tendulkar lbw b Lee ....................71 ..128 .9 ...0 55.46
SC Ganguly c Hussey b Johnson ........9 ...12 ..2 ...0 75.00
VVS Laxman c Tait b Lee ..................27 ..56 ..3 ...0 48.21
MS Dhoni not out .............................8 ...14 ..1 ...0 57.14
IK Pathan not out ............................8 .....9 ..1 ...0 88.88
Extras (lb 18, w 9, nb 9) 36

Total (6 wickets; 84 overs) 297 (3.53 runs per over)

To bat A Kumble, RP Singh, I Sharma
Fall of wickets1-57 (Sehwag, 16.4 ov), 2-59 (Jaffer, 19.2 ov), 3-198 (Tendulkar, 57.4 ov), 4-214 (Ganguly, 60.5 ov), 5-278 (Dravid, 77.6 ov), 6-284 (Laxman, 81.4 ov)

Bowling ........O M R W Econ
B Lee ..........19 3 64 3 3.36 (6nb, 1w)
MG Johnson ..21 5 62 2 2.95 (2w)
SR Clark .......15 3 44 0 2.93 (1w)
SW Tait .......13 1 59 0 4.53 (3nb, 1w)
A Symonds ...10 1 36 1 3.60
MJ Clarke ......6 1 14 0 2.33
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Re: 3rd Test: Australia v India

Postby rod_rooster » Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:24 pm

mal wrote:MITCHELL JOHNSON
Memo to Johnson critics
I think he is doing enough[should have had 3 wickets today the Dravid LBW was OUT]
Im 50/50 whether he becomes a good fast bowler for his country
The package is
LH bowler [varaition]
bowls 140/150 [thats quick for a lefty]
safe fieldsman
handy correct tailend batsman

One thing I suggest to the most vehement of all critics is
PATIENCE
MJ is a project player
An investment that needs time, and worthwhile because of his uniqueness in my opinion


I don't disagree and for what it's worth i think Mitchell Johnson has the potential to become a very successful test cricketer. Currently though he is bowling absolute rubbish. He needs to work on his line in Shield cricket not Test cricket. Test cricket is where players should use the skills they have already perfected. Johnson is yet to perfect the art of bowling a line or length that actually bothers world class batsmen and even more disturbingly he wouldn't worry too many tail end batsmen either.
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Re: 3rd Test: Australia v India

Postby Rik E Boy » Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:25 pm

rod_rooster wrote:Looks like Ponting is going to let Mitchell Johnson waste the new ball again rather than give it to Tait who might actually use it.


LOL. Hindsight is a wonderfull thing. Johnson got the breakthrough while Tait spent the whole day trying to live up to the 'thunderbolt' hype that was in the newspapers. Taity looked like he was trying too hard all day just as he did in England in 2005. Hopefully he'll be like Roy and find his groove in Test Cricket.

Doesn't help though when Punter insisted on using Roy with the wind at his back and forcing Tait to bowl into it. :shock:

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Re: 3rd Test: Australia v India

Postby rod_rooster » Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:28 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:
rod_rooster wrote:Looks like Ponting is going to let Mitchell Johnson waste the new ball again rather than give it to Tait who might actually use it.


LOL. Hindsight is a wonderfull thing. Johnson got the breakthrough while Tait spent the whole day trying to live up to the 'thunderbolt' hype that was in the newspapers. Taity looked like he was trying too hard all day just as he did in England in 2005. Hopefully he'll be like Roy and find his groove in Test Cricket.

Doesn't help though when Punter insisted on using Roy with the wind at his back and forcing Tait to bowl into it. :shock:

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That's a very good point but Johnson took his wickets more by good luck than good management.
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Re: 3rd Test: Australia v India

Postby Rik E Boy » Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:33 pm

I don't rate Johnson either but two handy wickets today. You need to remember he is still learning his craft. I don't reckon he will have any kids though as he only has one ball.

Beg to differ on mally's 'even stevens' call. Six wickets down on that track with such an inexperienced attack means the Indians have blown it for mine. At 2/200 a score of 500 was on the cards but now they will be lucky to make 400.

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Re: 3rd Test: Australia v India

Postby rod_rooster » Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:46 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:I don't rate Johnson either but two handy wickets today. You need to remember he is still learning his craft. I don't reckon he will have any kids though as he only has one ball.

Beg to differ on mally's 'even stevens' call. Six wickets down on that track with such an inexperienced attack means the Indians have blown it for mine. At 2/200 a score of 500 was on the cards but now they will be lucky to make 400.

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Well said REB. Nice one with the "only has one ball" call :lol: :lol:
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Re: 3rd Test: Australia v India

Postby Pup » Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:57 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:I don't rate Johnson either but two handy wickets today. You need to remember he is still learning his craft. I don't reckon he will have any kids though as he only has one ball.

Beg to differ on mally's 'even stevens' call. Six wickets down on that track with such an inexperienced attack means the Indians have blown it for mine. At 2/200 a score of 500 was on the cards but now they will be lucky to make 400.

regards,

REB


I agree, Australia certainly have their noses in front thanks to some stupid and selfish batting from Laxman, Dravid and Ganguly.

Really happy for Dravid again, once again showed what you can do when you have pride in your wicket, and dont mind looking ugly as long as you get the job done. A lot of other batsmen in the world should take note.

Sachin very unlucky again, was not out and never looked out IMO. As Mal said 1 all for Aus and India regarding decisions. except i would say Australia would have been very happy to let Dravid off his appeal if they knew they could get Sachin later while i think India would have swapped the decisions in an instant knowing who can do more damage.

Big job in the morning for Dhoni (Who showed signs in the last test) and Pathan.
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Re: 3rd Test: Australia v India

Postby mal » Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:17 am

PUP
bad decisions
IN 1
AU 2

The Tendulkar LBW was a shocker it was a Joe Cocker decsion TOO HIGH
The Dravid LBW to Johnson was even worse would have hit middle peg half way up NOT OUT

India is in front so far from the decisions I saw
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Re: 3rd Test: Australia v India

Postby Booney » Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:18 am

Australia in front.Laxman and Dravid should be hauled over the coals for the manner of their dismissals in the last half hour of day 1.
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Re: 3rd Test: Australia v India

Postby am Bays » Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:43 am

Booney wrote:Australia in front.Laxman and Dravid should be hauled over the coals for the manner of their dismissals in the last half hour of day 1.


Agreed, Mind you nothing said to Dravid by Kumble will be as bad as what Dravid was telling himself as he walked off..

IMHO JOhnson out-bowled Tait easily yesterday and proved to the Tait fans (I was one of them on this site calling for TAit b4 Johnson in Melb) on why he was picked first.

Tait had no rhythm at all and was obviously trying too hard as REB pointed out. Hopefully if he relaxes he will push the 160 km barrier and get a few poles.
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Re: 3rd Test: Australia v India

Postby MAY-Z » Thu Jan 17, 2008 8:33 am

Booney wrote:Australia in front.Laxman and Dravid should be hauled over the coals for the manner of their dismissals in the last half hour of day 1.


which is a half hour that shouldnt even be played- the over rates are terrible yet the icc continue to do nothing about it- 84 overs in 6 and a half hours of cricket is pathetic.

every team in world cricket is guilty of this but nothing is ever done about it
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Re: 3rd Test: Australia v India

Postby Dirko » Thu Jan 17, 2008 8:39 am

MAY-Z wrote:
Booney wrote:Australia in front.Laxman and Dravid should be hauled over the coals for the manner of their dismissals in the last half hour of day 1.


which is a half hour that shouldnt even be played- the over rates are terrible yet the icc continue to do nothing about it- 84 overs in 6 and a half hours of cricket is pathetic.

every team in world cricket is guilty of this but nothing is ever done about it


=D> =D> =D> =D>

Piss weak effort in the over rate...BOTH teams this series have been jokes in that regard. Forget the other carp that's been going on, and get the teams to play the 90 overs....

Ponting erred IMO in not allowing Tait to bowl with the wind in his back early on. Tait...relex...and the wickets will come.

Australia just in fron. Will need to bowl India out well and truly by lunch....
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Re: 3rd Test: Australia v India

Postby Rik E Boy » Thu Jan 17, 2008 8:42 am

MAY-Z wrote:
Booney wrote:Australia in front.Laxman and Dravid should be hauled over the coals for the manner of their dismissals in the last half hour of day 1.


which is a half hour that shouldnt even be played- the over rates are terrible yet the icc continue to do nothing about it- 84 overs in 6 and a half hours of cricket is pathetic.

every team in world cricket is guilty of this but nothing is ever done about it


One of the commentators during the West Indies v Sth Africa Test suggest a three match suspension for the offending skipper! Still, I don't buy the 'half an hour that shouldn't have been played' bit though. Most Test cricketers have learnt to ration out there concentration reserves for when it is required (i.e. When the ball is live) for 90 overs.

Another interesting comment was the diminishing level of concentration world wide by Test cricketers caused by One day and now 20 Twenty 'cricket'.

So who does have the power of concentration?

Hayden
Ponting
Hussey
Dravid
Tendulkar
Laxman
Bell
Collingwood
Chanderpaul
Kallis
Sangakarra
Jawayadenre ((!$%%#@!!!) great spelling....

Any others? That's not many in World Cricket is it?

It wasn't the over rate or additional time that caused those wickets to fall, only a momentary lapse of reason (There'll be no sleep in here tonight).

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Re: 3rd Test: Australia v India

Postby the wonder elephant » Thu Jan 17, 2008 8:46 am

do they still fine teams 4 slow overrates ? if they do its should be a big one otherwise its not worth it with all the money around in todays game.maybe they should think off a penalty in runs ie.for overs not bowled the batting side should be given runs at there scoring rate ..eg..yesterday aust bowled 84 overs 6 short ...india scored at 3.5 per over therefore penilise aust 21 runs for slow overate ....thoughts
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Re: 3rd Test: Australia v India

Postby MAY-Z » Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:11 am

the wonder elephant wrote:do they still fine teams 4 slow overrates ? if they do its should be a big one otherwise its not worth it with all the money around in todays game.maybe they should think off a penalty in runs ie.for overs not bowled the batting side should be given runs at there scoring rate ..eg..yesterday aust bowled 84 overs 6 short ...india scored at 3.5 per over therefore penilise aust 21 runs for slow overate ....thoughts


i think that is on teh right line- runs will be the only way that teams will learn- although it would be more than what you have suggested there as at scheduled stumps they wouldve only bowled about 78 overs so it should be 12 overs of penalties
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Re: 3rd Test: Australia v India

Postby Pup » Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:24 am

REB, Interesting list.

Hayden has proved he has the power of concentration in some innings but also has shown he loses patience very easily, (See Sri Lanka Tour). Laxman is lucky to be in that list as well IMO.

Dravid, Sachin, Kallis, Bell and Chanderpaul are probably the best at it.

Ashwell Prince would have to sneak into the list also.
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Re: 3rd Test: Australia v India

Postby Pup » Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:25 am

The over rate was terrible.

To have only bowled 22 overs before lunch is just not good enough.
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Re: 3rd Test: Australia v India

Postby the wonder elephant » Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:28 am

MAY-Z wrote:
the wonder elephant wrote:do they still fine teams 4 slow overrates ? if they do its should be a big one otherwise its not worth it with all the money around in todays game.maybe they should think off a penalty in runs ie.for overs not bowled the batting side should be given runs at there scoring rate ..eg..yesterday aust bowled 84 overs 6 short ...india scored at 3.5 per over therefore penilise aust 21 runs for slow overate ....thoughts


i think that is on teh right line- runs will be the only way that teams will learn- although it would be more than what you have suggested there as at scheduled stumps they wouldve only bowled about 78 overs so it should be 12 overs of penalties

yes may z agreed that would make the penalty 42 runs which would be right on the money for mine would put india at about 4/320 and they wouldnt have lost 2 late wickets .. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: 3rd Test: Australia v India

Postby MAY-Z » Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:37 am

Pup wrote:REB, Interesting list.

Hayden has proved he has the power of concentration in some innings but also has shown he loses patience very easily, (See Sri Lanka Tour). Laxman is lucky to be in that list as well IMO.

Dravid, Sachin, Kallis, Bell and Chanderpaul are probably the best at it.

Ashwell Prince would have to sneak into the list also.


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Re: 3rd Test: Australia v India

Postby RustyCage » Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:44 am

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Booney wrote:Australia in front.Laxman and Dravid should be hauled over the coals for the manner of their dismissals in the last half hour of day 1.


Agreed, Mind you nothing said to Dravid by Kumble will be as bad as what Dravid was telling himself as he walked off..

IMHO JOhnson out-bowled Tait easily yesterday and proved to the Tait fans (I was one of them on this site calling for TAit b4 Johnson in Melb) on why he was picked first.

Tait had no rhythm at all and was obviously trying too hard as REB pointed out. Hopefully if he relaxes he will push the 160 km barrier and get a few poles.


True, but if Tait played in Bris, Tas, Melb and Syd instead of Johnson, it would have been Tait who was calm and in control with the ball, and Johnson who was struggling with the nerves of playing his first Test of the summer.
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