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Re: 2023 ICC World Test Championship Final

PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 10:31 am
by amber_fluid
Brodlach wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:If rolling out a pitch to suit the home nation is cheating then we are all guilty
We are as bad as anyone.

100% disagree


You saying we don’t do it?

Re: 2023 ICC World Test Championship Final

PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 10:40 am
by RB
I don't think we're as bad as India. Lots of our pitches suit touring sides as much as us. But yeah we're definitely in no position to be calling the Indians cheats.

Re: 2023 ICC World Test Championship Final

PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 10:44 am
by PatowalongaPirate
At least we prepare 1 pitch, and not 4 pitches in 1 to suit certain bowlers from certain ends and disadvantage particular opposition players.

Re: 2023 ICC World Test Championship Final

PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 10:44 am
by tigerpie
amber_fluid wrote:If rolling out a pitch to suit the home nation is cheating then we are all guilty
We are as bad as anyone.

Only rolling 2/3rds of a pitch is cheating in my opinion.

Re: 2023 ICC World Test Championship Final

PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 10:51 am
by amber_fluid
Yeah I’m sure the touring teams over the years have been absolutely delighted with the pitches we’ve served up.

Re: 2023 ICC World Test Championship Final

PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 10:55 am
by The Dark Knight
Jim05 wrote:I would have been filthy if Pat had won the toss and bowled

Easy to say that now Jim, at the toss Cummins said he bowed first aswell.

Re: 2023 ICC World Test Championship Final

PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:07 am
by Jim05
The Dark Knight wrote:
Jim05 wrote:I would have been filthy if Pat had won the toss and bowled

Easy to say that now Jim, at the toss Cummins said he bowed first aswell.
That’s the trouble having a fast bowler as captain. ;) The Oval is always a bat first pitch unless there is a lot of cloud about.
It’s also been as dry as I can remember for this time of year over in the UK so conditions should be perfect.

Re: 2023 ICC World Test Championship Final

PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:13 am
by shoe boy
The Dark Knight wrote:
Jim05 wrote:I would have been filthy if Pat had won the toss and bowled

Easy to say that now Jim, at the toss Cummins said he bowed first aswell.


Agree he did BUT WTF are India thinking no Ashwin??

Re: 2023 ICC World Test Championship Final

PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:47 am
by Rik E Boy
3/327 is unreal. Had real worries when Warner got himself out just before lunch and Bus Change straight after. Smith was batting like an old mole but hung about and Trav was doing Trav things. Hard fast tracks with short boundaries? Yes please.

regards,

REB

Re: 2023 ICC World Test Championship Final

PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 12:44 pm
by mal
In the short term, at this stage, is The Trav the best South Australian left hand batsman since Clem Hill ?
Hill, Hooksey, Boof, The Trav ?

Regards
President of the Head/Carey cheer squad

Re: 2023 ICC World Test Championship Final

PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 1:04 pm
by Brodlach
amber_fluid wrote:
Brodlach wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:If rolling out a pitch to suit the home nation is cheating then we are all guilty
We are as bad as anyone.

100% disagree


You saying we don’t do it?


I don’t think we do at all.

Re: 2023 ICC World Test Championship Final

PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 1:13 pm
by RB
So they went an extra half hour and still finished five overs short? That is piss poor. Three wickets fell and there were no other interruptions. Also potentially robs the batting side of runs if conditions tomorrow aren't as conducive. Start suspending captains and it won't be a problem.

Re: 2023 ICC World Test Championship Final

PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 1:19 pm
by woodublieve12
Brodlach wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:
Brodlach wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:If rolling out a pitch to suit the home nation is cheating then we are all guilty
We are as bad as anyone.

100% disagree


You saying we don’t do it?


I don’t think we do at all.


You are surely joking?

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Re: 2023 ICC World Test Championship Final

PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 1:22 pm
by Hector
RB wrote:So they went an extra half hour and still finished five overs short? That is piss poor. Three wickets fell and there were no other interruptions. Also potentially robs the batting side of runs if conditions tomorrow aren't as conducive. Start suspending captains and it won't be a problem.


Penalty runs should be applied as well, make it impact the current game as well as the next. 10 runs per over. Teams will start bowling their overs in time.

Re: 2023 ICC World Test Championship Final

PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 1:26 pm
by Booney
What evidence is there to support the notion we doctor pitches in Australia?

For ever and a day the WACA was different to the SCG, the SCG different to Adelaide etc etc but you knew what you were getting.

When Warne was at his best did we create 5 dust bowls around the country? No.

When McGrath and Gillespie were at their peak did we create 5 seaming rippers? No.

It's insane to think we doctor pitches in the way India does.

Re: 2023 ICC World Test Championship Final

PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 1:36 pm
by amber_fluid
Booney wrote:What evidence is there to support the notion we doctor pitches in Australia?

For ever and a day the WACA was different to the SCG, the SCG different to Adelaide etc etc but you knew what you were getting.

When Warne was at his best did we create 5 dust bowls around the country? No.

When McGrath and Gillespie were at their peak did we create 5 seaming rippers? No.

It's insane to think we doctor pitches in the way India does.


You know what you’re going to get in India as well.

Re: 2023 ICC World Test Championship Final

PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 1:38 pm
by Booney
amber_fluid wrote:
Booney wrote:What evidence is there to support the notion we doctor pitches in Australia?

For ever and a day the WACA was different to the SCG, the SCG different to Adelaide etc etc but you knew what you were getting.

When Warne was at his best did we create 5 dust bowls around the country? No.

When McGrath and Gillespie were at their peak did we create 5 seaming rippers? No.

It's insane to think we doctor pitches in the way India does.


You know what you’re going to get in India as well.


True, exactly what suits them! :lol:

Re: 2023 ICC World Test Championship Final

PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 1:42 pm
by amber_fluid
Booney wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:
Booney wrote:What evidence is there to support the notion we doctor pitches in Australia?

For ever and a day the WACA was different to the SCG, the SCG different to Adelaide etc etc but you knew what you were getting.

When Warne was at his best did we create 5 dust bowls around the country? No.

When McGrath and Gillespie were at their peak did we create 5 seaming rippers? No.

It's insane to think we doctor pitches in the way India does.


You know what you’re going to get in India as well.


True, exactly what suits them! :lol:


Bingo!

Re: 2023 ICC World Test Championship Final

PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 1:51 pm
by The Dark Knight

Re: 2023 ICC World Test Championship Final

PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 2:28 pm
by Dutchy
Booney wrote:What evidence is there to support the notion we doctor pitches in Australia?

For ever and a day the WACA was different to the SCG, the SCG different to Adelaide etc etc but you knew what you were getting.

When Warne was at his best did we create 5 dust bowls around the country? No.

When McGrath and Gillespie were at their peak did we create 5 seaming rippers? No.

It's insane to think we doctor pitches in the way India does.


Yes our pitches have always been like that, just like India's have always been spin friendly, just like England has always been seamer friendly. Thats what makes cricket great IMO, different conditions and challenges when playing away from home. Otherwise standardise every pitch with concrete and fake grass :lol: