Australian International Season 2022/23

[Lightning McQueen]

Some good names there I missed. Not being a smart arse here, but was Trumper an opener or middle order bat?

@mal?

[whufc]

Taylor has Warner covered for mine albeit Warner was more of a match winner.

Taylor averaged exactly 43 home and away. Warner on the other hand has been somewhat of a home country bully, averaging a modest 37 away. I think think Warner’s away record does damper his brilliance a tad.

I give Taylor some extra credit as well given he had the added pressure of captaining the side for a lot of his career.

[am Bays]

Where would he rank in our list of best openers?

He's up there, no doubt.

However he's challenging for #1 knob in Australian sport. Kyrigos, Simmons, Warner... photo finish. Good thing Tomic has retired.

Up there and in the conversation but Hayden, Simpson, Morris, Lawry, Langer, Woodfull and Taylor are better for mine (top four in particular)

Pro-rata Morris Lawry and Taylor far fewer ducks than Warner which could be considered an indicator of an ability to stay in initially.

Morris and Lawry certainly better averages.

Some good names there I missed. Not being a smart arse here, but was Trumper an opener or middle order bat?

good get, I thought he was more of a number three

Based on ESPNCricinfo most of his career was spent as an opener. He only averaged 39. "Only" given the nature of uncovered pitches, equipment etc

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/team/series_results.html?class=1;id=190;type=decade

So I suppose he's in tthe conversation

[mal]

Some good names there I missed. Not being a smart arse here, but was Trumper an opener or middle order bat?

@mal?

Vic was a superstar opener
High back lift gave him the scope to play attacking shots
He was king of the kids
Kids would visit his sports store and Vic would treat them with give aways , he often put people in front of profits
If I was to compare Vic with a modern day player, probably Ricky Ponting batting Baz-ball
Vic was considered the premier world right hand batsman of his day

My Australian openers in order are
Victor Trumper
Arthur Morris
Bill Lawry

[jackpot jim]

Some good names there I missed. Not being a smart arse here, but was Trumper an opener or middle order bat?

@mal?

Vic was a superstar opener
High back lift gave him the scope to play attacking shots
He was king of the kids
Kids would visit his sports store and Vic would treat them with give aways , he often put people in front of profits
If I was to compare Vic with a modern day player, probably Ricky Ponting batting Baz-ball
Vic was considered the premier world right hand batsman of his day

My Australian openers in order are
Victor Trumper
Arthur Morris
Bill Lawry

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That settles it then

Thou great one has spoken

[Brodlach]

Only person on here that actually saw Victor Trumper bat is Mal.

[Lightning McQueen]

Only person on here that actually saw Victor Trumper bat is Mal.

From the non-strikers end

[The Dark Knight]

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[whufc]

Geez Warner is a funny bugger.

Posted pics on social media of him on a plane with his family with the caption 'Bali here we come'

He then missed todays optional training session.

No one panic though he posted moments ago saying it was a hoax and he is most definitely in Sydney.

[Corona Man]

That’s a shame. Stay in Kuta you piece of steaming shit.

[The Dark Knight]

Australia's Head-scratcher - does their 'brilliant' No. 5 make the cut for India?
https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/aus- ... ia-1350378

[whufc]

Australia's Head-scratcher - does their 'brilliant' No. 5 make the cut for India?
https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/aus- ... ia-1350378

I'm a massive horse for courses person but Heads sheer rate of runs at the moment means he has to be given first crack over there.

In saying that if he was to have a shocking first test then you probably have to replace him.

[Lightning McQueen]

Geez Warner is a funny bugger.

Posted pics on social media of him on a plane with his family with the caption 'Bali here we come'

He then missed todays optional training session.

No one panic though he posted moments ago saying it was a hoax and he is most definitely in Sydney.

He's about as funny as syphilis.

[The Dark Knight]

Australia's Head-scratcher - does their 'brilliant' No. 5 make the cut for India?
https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/aus- ... ia-1350378

I'm a massive horse for courses person but Heads sheer rate of runs at the moment means he has to be given first crack over there.

In saying that if he was to have a shocking first test then you probably have to replace him.

Agreed Head should be given first crack, I think Ashwin will get him out for fun though but who do you think would replace Head in the team? Handscomb?

[whufc]

Australia's Head-scratcher - does their 'brilliant' No. 5 make the cut for India?
https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/aus- ... ia-1350378

I'm a massive horse for courses person but Heads sheer rate of runs at the moment means he has to be given first crack over there.

In saying that if he was to have a shocking first test then you probably have to replace him.

Agreed Head should be given first crack, I think Ashwin will get him out for fun though but who do you think would replace Head in the team? Handscomb?

Thats the other big question mark isn't it. TBH I don't watch enough shield to know who the real good players of spin are.

The like for like would be Maxwell but im not comfortable with the fact that he hasn't chosen to play shield so therefore can't come into the test side...yes i know Warner made the test team without playing shield.

I've just always battled with the concept we pick bowlers based on pitch conditions (rightfully so as well) yet when it comes to batsmen we just pick the same 6 no matter where despite the fact we all know some players are better suited to pace vs spin and vica versa. Handscombe/Renshaw are the two next in line you would think but yeah not sure about them on indian wickets.

[Lightning McQueen]

Australia's Head-scratcher - does their 'brilliant' No. 5 make the cut for India?
https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/aus- ... ia-1350378

I'm a massive horse for courses person but Heads sheer rate of runs at the moment means he has to be given first crack over there.

In saying that if he was to have a shocking first test then you probably have to replace him.

Agreed Head should be given first crack, I think Ashwin will get him out for fun though but who do you think would replace Head in the team? Handscomb?

Thats the other big question mark isn't it. TBH I don't watch enough shield to know who the real good players of spin are.

The like for like would be Maxwell but im not comfortable with the fact that he hasn't chosen to play shield so therefore can't come into the test side...yes i know Warner made the test team without playing shield.

I've just always battled with the concept we pick bowlers based on pitch conditions (rightfully so as well) yet when it comes to batsmen we just pick the same 6 no matter where despite the fact we all know some players are better suited to pace vs spin and vica versa. Handscombe/Renshaw are the two next in line you would think but yeah not sure about them on indian wickets.

He wanted to, he got injured at a BBQ but not on the piss.

[Lightning McQueen]

Australia's Head-scratcher - does their 'brilliant' No. 5 make the cut for India?
https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/aus- ... ia-1350378

I'm a massive horse for courses person but Heads sheer rate of runs at the moment means he has to be given first crack over there.

In saying that if he was to have a shocking first test then you probably have to replace him.

Agreed Head should be given first crack, I think Ashwin will get him out for fun though but who do you think would replace Head in the team? Handscomb?

I'm backing Trav in, the confidence he will take with him from this summer and a lot tests in succession will benefit him. Usually we play a few tests and then have a lengthy lay off between series', they are flat knacker for a good 14 months.

[Dinglinga75]

ACB will persist with Travis as they see him as a potential Australian captain

[The Dark Knight]

[quote="The Dark Knight"]Australia's Head-scratcher - does their 'brilliant' No. 5 make the cut for India?
https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/aus- ... ia-1350378

I'm a massive horse for courses person but Heads sheer rate of runs at the moment means he has to be given first crack over there.

In saying that if he was to have a shocking first test then you probably have to replace him.

Agreed Head should be given first crack, I think Ashwin will get him out for fun though but who do you think would replace Head in the team? Handscomb?

Thats the other big question mark isn't it. TBH I don't watch enough shield to know who the real good players of spin are.

The like for like would be Maxwell but im not comfortable with the fact that he hasn't chosen to play shield so therefore can't come into the test side...yes i know Warner made the test team without playing shield.

I've just always battled with the concept we pick bowlers based on pitch conditions (rightfully so as well) yet when it comes to batsmen we just pick the same 6 no matter where despite the fact we all know some players are better suited to pace vs spin and vica versa. Handscombe/Renshaw are the two next in line you would think but yeah not sure about them on indian wickets.

He wanted to, he got injured at a BBQ but not on the piss.[/quote]Yeah, Maxwell has a fractured leg WHUFC.
https://www.cricket.com.au/news/feature ... 2022-11-22

[The Dark Knight]

Australia's Head-scratcher - does their 'brilliant' No. 5 make the cut for India?
https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/aus- ... ia-1350378

I'm a massive horse for courses person but Heads sheer rate of runs at the moment means he has to be given first crack over there.

In saying that if he was to have a shocking first test then you probably have to replace him.

Agreed Head should be given first crack, I think Ashwin will get him out for fun though but who do you think would replace Head in the team? Handscomb?

Thats the other big question mark isn't it. TBH I don't watch enough shield to know who the real good players of spin are.

The like for like would be Maxwell but im not comfortable with the fact that he hasn't chosen to play shield so therefore can't come into the test side...yes i know Warner made the test team without playing shield.

I've just always battled with the concept we pick bowlers based on pitch conditions (rightfully so as well) yet when it comes to batsmen we just pick the same 6 no matter where despite the fact we all know some players are better suited to pace vs spin and vica versa. Handscombe/Renshaw are the two next in line you would think but yeah not sure about them on indian wickets.

Jarrod Kimber has mentioned that point on various videos/podcasts of his, teams have always pick bowlers on conditions but seem happy sticking with the same top 5/6 batsmen no matter the conditions and what type of pitches they're playing on.
Handscomb and Renshaw did ok in the 2017 series in India.