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Andrew Symonds

PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 3:01 pm
by NFC
What's your verdict folks of Symonds being in the test team?

Personally I don't think he's a test player and I don't think he'll last long. He's in great touch and is one of the best ODI players in the world so if he can't have success this summer then it will never happen.

Rubbish me all you like, but I'd much prefer having Watson in the team.

Re: Andrew Symonds

PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 3:04 pm
by heater31
If Watson continues to have muscles like rubber bands the banana benders would have to begin to question his place in their team. At least Roy has versatility of spin or meds plus explosive batting when required. Watson plays half a good game then twang hes gone

Re: Andrew Symonds

PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 3:05 pm
by locky801
Ask me that question 12 months ago I would have said No, now most definately, he compliments the top order beautifully (probably get a bloody duck today now), but he has matured as a cricketer, is the best fieldsman in world cricket, can bowl both medium pace and spin, and when he is on song, brother he is on song.

Comparing Symonds to Watson is like comparing Don Bradman with Ken Eastwood, but thats my opinion, oh once again I can hear my arch enemy Rod Rooster firing up :D

Re: Andrew Symonds

PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 3:07 pm
by Rik E Boy
Even if Watson was as good as Hadlee and Botham combined it doesn't mean jack because he can't get on the park. I voted yes. Symonds has got the runs on the board and Watto hasn't.

regards,

REB

Re: Andrew Symonds

PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 3:10 pm
by Benchwarmer
What other options are there?

Watson? :lol:
Hodge? :lol: :lol:
Adcock? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Andrew Symonds

PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 3:12 pm
by NFC
Watson FC:

Batting: 49.22
Bolwing: 30.15

Symonds FC:

Batting: 42.46
Bolwing: 36.93

Personally I think Watso offers more with both bat and ball. Obviously he can't get on the park so it doesn't really matter. This discussion is about Symonds place in the test team! Argh, why did I add that last comment! :lol:

Re: Andrew Symonds

PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 3:13 pm
by locky801
Benchwarmer wrote:What other options are there?

Watson? :lol:
Hodge? :lol: :lol:
Adcock? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



You been drinking with Marshy again

Re: Andrew Symonds

PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 3:13 pm
by Benchwarmer
I met Ken Eastwood whilst umpiring in the VTCA for half a season when I had knee troubles - great and funny bloke who is down to earth.


Watson bowls as well as Cameron White, except he breaks down more.

Re: Andrew Symonds

PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 3:14 pm
by blink
I think that Symonds is a brilliant cricketer and deserves to be there.

I think we are still to see the best of Andy Symonds in Test Cricket, I think later in the summer - possibly in the Tests against India we'll really see what he is capable of.

Re: Andrew Symonds

PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 3:15 pm
by NFC
Benchwarmer wrote:What other options are there?

Watson? :lol:
Hodge? :lol: :lol:
Adcock? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Go for another batsmen.

Is Symonds good enough to be a test #6? IMO, no.
Does he offer enough will the ball to warrant a place as an all-rounder? Not at test level, we've seen Ponting's hesitation in bowling him.

Therefore for Symonds to warrant a place in the team he surely has to average about 40. He doesn't bowl much so he's pretty much in the team as a batsmen alone. I think you would get better value out of playing a specialist batsmen at #6 in his place.

Re: Andrew Symonds

PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 3:15 pm
by heater31
NFC wrote:Watson FC:

Batting: 49.22
Bolwing: 30.15

Symonds FC:

Batting: 42.46
Bolwing: 36.93

Personally I think Watso offers more with both bat and ball. Obviously he can't get on the park so it doesn't really matter. This discussion is about Symonds place in the test team! Argh, why did I add that last comment! :lol:


FC games

Watson

55

injuries sh*tloads

Symonds

205

injuries a few

Re: Andrew Symonds

PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 3:17 pm
by NFC
heater31 wrote:FC games

Watson

55

injuries sh*tloads

Symonds

205

injuries a few

Oh no doubt he doesn't get on the park nearly enough. That's the only thing really holding him back.

PS. Symonds is 32 and Watto's only 26. ;)

Re: Andrew Symonds

PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 3:19 pm
by Rik E Boy
Symonds the better player when both fit. Where's this Watto love coming from???? :?

regards,

REB

Re: Andrew Symonds

PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 3:21 pm
by NFC
Rik E Boy wrote:Symonds the better player when both fit. Where's this Watto love coming from???? :?

regards,

REB

He does have the odd fan out there you know. :wink:

It is possible!

Re: Andrew Symonds

PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 3:23 pm
by locky801
NFC wrote:
Benchwarmer wrote:What other options are there?

Watson? :lol:
Hodge? :lol: :lol:
Adcock? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Go for another batsmen.

Is Symonds good enough to be a test #6? IMO, no.
Does he offer enough will the ball to warrant a place as an all-rounder? Not at test level, we've seen Ponting's hesitation in bowling him.

Therefore for Symonds to warrant a place in the team he surely has to average about 40. He doesn't bowl much so he's pretty much in the team as a batsmen alone. I think you would get better value out of playing a specialist batsmen at #6 in his place.




and on current form that batsman would be??????????????????

Re: Andrew Symonds

PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 3:24 pm
by heater31
NFC wrote:Oh no doubt he doesn't get on the park nearly enough. That's the only thing really holding him back.

PS. Symonds is 32 and Watto's only 26. ;)




until Watson consistently gets on the Park he has no hope of getting that baggy green out of the kit bag


Locky, Symonds averaged around 44 last domestic season compared to Watson's 32

Re: Andrew Symonds

PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 3:26 pm
by NFC
locky801 wrote:and on current form that batsman would be??????????????????

David Hussey, Adam Voges, Rogers, even Brad Haddin.

Not mentioning REB's man though.

Re: Andrew Symonds

PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 3:29 pm
by Rik E Boy
Hasn't 2007 taught you anything? Never underestimate the power of the Kat!! :wink:

regards,

REB

Re: Andrew Symonds

PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 3:32 pm
by rogernumber10
I give Symonds my vote. This Australian team, even now with some greats gone, is still good enough to be able to carry an x factor player who can blow apart a game in a session with quick runs, or great fielding that can produce a run out from nowhere or save runs.
Now that he's actually becoming more consistent, I reckon he terrifies teams in exactly a situation he's batting now (just like the sight of Gilchrist walking to the wicket does).

Watson needs to complete a lot of games to restore my faith.

Re: Andrew Symonds

PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 3:34 pm
by locky801
heater31 wrote:
NFC wrote:Oh no doubt he doesn't get on the park nearly enough. That's the only thing really holding him back.

PS. Symonds is 32 and Watto's only 26. ;)




until Watson consistently gets on the Park he has no hope of getting that baggy green out of the kit bag


Locky, Symonds averaged around 44 last domestic season compared to Watson's 32



Rest my case, I am a big Symonds fan and thats the thing he is fit, out there playing, whats Watson doing probably hobbling around on crutchers somewhere. With all the Hammy problems Watson has had and he's only 26, what will he be like when he's 30