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at the end of yesterdays play the commentators interviewed the english coach (i think his name was moore) & he said 'that we were hoping to save the game' now why wouldn't you try & win the game ?

this attitude imho is why they get beaten a lot more than they win (trying not to lose first & trying to win 2nd)


give me the job at least then they'd have the RIGHT attitude

It's been the bane of English cricket for many a year.

Completetely agree. I'd prefer to lose the game trying to win it rather than just trying to play out a draw. Imagine the Aussies in the same situation. There is no way known they would be thinking anything other than winning the game.

Points to Consider.

1/ Trying to SAVE the Game Doesn't Discount the Possibillity of Winning it.

2/ 341 runs more to win in 90 overs with 9 wkts in hand at a R/R of 3.80 on a 5th pitch against the World Record wicket Taker.
S.Lanka 1st Inngs R/R 3.15
S.Lanka 2nd Inngs R/R 3.40
England 1st Inngs R/R 3.01

Considering the Above Facts, I Consider the Statement made by the English Coach to be Appropriate.

jackpot jim wrote:Points to Consider.

1/ Trying to SAVE the Game Doesn't Discount the Possibillity of Winning it.

2/ 341 runs more to win in 90 overs with 9 wkts in hand at a R/R of 3.80 on a 5th pitch against the World Record wicket Taker.
S.Lanka 1st Inngs R/R 3.15
S.Lanka 2nd Inngs R/R 3.40
England 1st Inngs R/R 3.01

Considering the Above Facts, I Consider the Statement made by the English Coach to be Appropriate.

That may be the case but he has immediatley put England on the back foot and embedded a seige metallity. Playing positive cricket will get you a long way.

the poms just don't have that winning mentality they don't know how or want to. I would like to see a tight contest for the next ashes.

jackpot jim wrote:Points to Consider.

1/ Trying to SAVE the Game Doesn't Discount the Possibillity of Winning it.

2/ 341 runs more to win in 90 overs with 9 wkts in hand at a R/R of 3.80 on a 5th pitch against the World Record wicket Taker.
S.Lanka 1st Inngs R/R 3.15
S.Lanka 2nd Inngs R/R 3.40
England 1st Inngs R/R 3.01

Considering the Above Facts, I Consider the Statement made by the English Coach to be Appropriate.

Add to that no side has ever scored over 324 in a 4th innings in Kandy.

They have basically always played negative cricket, perhaps if they set themselves a challenge once in a while they may well be surprised of the results, records are made to be broken, however even if they had a shot at this one can't see them getting close. The need to play more aggressive cricket in all aspects of the game, always to negative in test cricket for my likning

well i just got home & the poms are 5/90 with 77 overs left, the 5 wickets have fallen in 26 overs, perhaps if they sensibly attacked they could be 5/150 & a silly hope rather than waiting for the inevitable

rod_rooster wrote:Completetely agree. I'd prefer to lose the game trying to win it rather than just trying to play out a draw. Imagine the Aussies in the same situation. There is no way known they would be thinking anything other than winning the game.

Go back to the Ashes series of 2005. The Aussies were trying to save games then rather than win them. If anything England have had a far more positive approach to their game in recent times. That is why there were no draws in the 2006-07 Ashes series.
Cheers

A draw for England is a win for them.

bulldogproud wrote:

rod_rooster wrote:Completetely agree. I'd prefer to lose the game trying to win it rather than just trying to play out a draw. Imagine the Aussies in the same situation. There is no way known they would be thinking anything other than winning the game.

Go back to the Ashes series of 2005. The Aussies were trying to save games then rather than win them. If anything England have had a far more positive approach to their game in recent times. That is why there were no draws in the 2006-07 Ashes series.
Cheers

We saved (played for a draw) in one game, Old Trafford. The other games we we actually tried to win and lost by 2 runs and 3 wickets respectively....

Go back the previous three series ther is no doubt who played the more atttractive cricket indeed the only test England won in 2001 was when we gifted them an easy chase down 330 with a full day to bat...

So you are admitting that in the last ten tests they have played against each other Australia have played for a draw once more than England have. Thanks, I rest my case.

1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:

bulldogproud wrote:

rod_rooster wrote:Completetely agree. I'd prefer to lose the game trying to win it rather than just trying to play out a draw. Imagine the Aussies in the same situation. There is no way known they would be thinking anything other than winning the game.

Go back to the Ashes series of 2005. The Aussies were trying to save games then rather than win them. If anything England have had a far more positive approach to their game in recent times. That is why there were no draws in the 2006-07 Ashes series.
Cheers

We saved (played for a draw) in one game, Old Trafford. The other games we we actually tried to win and lost by 2 runs and 3 wickets respectively....

Go back the previous three series ther is no doubt who played the more atttractive cricket indeed the only test England won in 2001 was when we gifted them an easy chase down 330 with a full day to bat...

c'mon tassie are you trying to be a comedian ? (remember 40,000 commedians out of work if you are trying to be one ) england chasing 330 on a full day that is USUALLY way too big for them in a 4th dig (even batting first they'd struggle with against a good attack) that day was their 'once in a blue moon'

Than win in 01 was when Butcher made that ton??

bulldogproud wrote:So you are admitting that in the last ten tests they have played against each other Australia have played for a draw once more than England have. Thanks, I rest my case.

What were you doing in Adelaide last year on days 4-5???

Perth on Day four??

Lords 2005 when we finally beat you halfway through day five.....

We were disguising the fact we were trying to win those games

they were cruising earlier on today and going at a good run rate when i was watching

Great run rate, 2.96 for the innings, and 3.8 for the last 10 overs. Cook 81 from 234 balls, strike rate of 34.61. Great positive English batting. Once were a joke, still nothing has changed. Might need to bring Boycott back to up the run rate.

they had a good run rate early on,