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he asks that he knows if a ball is bowled & bounces twice in front of the batsmen it is a dead ball but he wants to know (& i can't answer it) is if a bowler sees a batsmen charging down the pitch so he drops it short to bounce over the batsman & it then bounces behind the batsman & onto the stumps is the batsman out or is it still a dead ball ?

ecky , spelly ?? !!!

bayman wrote:he asks that he knows if a ball is bowled & bounces twice in front of the batsmen it is a dead ball but he wants to know (& i can't answer it) is if a bowler sees a batsmen charging down the pitch so he drops it short to bounce over the batsman & it then bounces behind the batsman & onto the stumps is the batsman out or is it still a dead ball ?

ecky , spelly ?? !!!

As i understand it it has to bounce more than twice and in that situation it's a no-ball not a dead ball. In the situation you describe being a no-ball it's not out.

If the bowler bounces it to get over the batsman's head, wouldn't it go straight over the wicket anyway?

You'd have to dig it in within 1 m or so of the bowling crease then hope it somehow top-spun when it hit the pitch the second time to stay below wicket level. Would be quite a ball!

Alternatively to get it to bounce twice you would have to bowl it so slowly that the batsman could double back and smack it over the keeper's head?

Besides, I thought it could bounce twice and still be hit?

What about rolling a ball, would that constitute multiple bounces, therefore the Kiwi's should have had a no-ball called ?

SJABC wrote:What about rolling a ball, would that constitute multiple bounces, therefore the Kiwi's should have had a no-ball called ?

Law has changed since then.

Ahh thought so...bloody Trevor

It's not a dead ball, just a no ball for a ball to bounce more than twice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyayFKLHpXQ

With the other scenario, it would have to do with where the batsmans' normal stance - if it wouldn't have been a no ball to where the batsman normally stood, it's not a no ball in that instance.

spell_check wrote:It's not a dead ball, just a no ball for a ball to bounce more than twice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyayFKLHpXQ

With the other scenario, it would have to do with where the batsmans' normal stance - if it wouldn't have been a no ball to where the batsman normally stood, it's not a no ball in that instance.

thanks spelly but you do mean more than once obviously

bayman wrote:

spell_check wrote:It's not a dead ball, just a no ball for a ball to bounce more than twice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyayFKLHpXQ

With the other scenario, it would have to do with where the batsmans' normal stance - if it wouldn't have been a no ball to where the batsman normally stood, it's not a no ball in that instance.

thanks spelly but you do mean more than once obviously

The ball can bounce twice and still be a legal delivery, it's anything more than twice to be a no-ball.

spell_check wrote:

bayman wrote:

spell_check wrote:It's not a dead ball, just a no ball for a ball to bounce more than twice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyayFKLHpXQ

With the other scenario, it would have to do with where the batsmans' normal stance - if it wouldn't have been a no ball to where the batsman normally stood, it's not a no ball in that instance.

thanks spelly but you do mean more than once obviously

The ball can bounce twice and still be a legal delivery, it's anything more than twice to be a no-ball.

well in that case little baymans question of bouncing it over the batsmen & trying to bowl him or even get him stumped although improbable it is possible !! ?

bayman wrote:

spell_check wrote:

bayman wrote:

spell_check wrote:It's not a dead ball, just a no ball for a ball to bounce more than twice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyayFKLHpXQ

With the other scenario, it would have to do with where the batsmans' normal stance - if it wouldn't have been a no ball to where the batsman normally stood, it's not a no ball in that instance.

thanks spelly but you do mean more than once obviously

The ball can bounce twice and still be a legal delivery, it's anything more than twice to be a no-ball.

well in that case little baymans question of bouncing it over the batsmen & trying to bowl him or even get him stumped although improbable it is possible !! ?

In actual fact, I had a look at the laws and it says either where the batsman is standing (I assume this includes when the batsman charges down the wicket it is where he is at the time of the ball passing) and/or where the batsman would normally be. In that case it would be called a wide, and therefore he can still be stumped, or run out.

Bayman,
I think it would've been easier to give Litttle Bayman a clip under the ear & tell him to shut up.

Punk Rooster wrote:Bayman,
I think it would've been easier to give Litttle Bayman a clip under the ear & tell him to shut up.

if i gave him a clip, i'd get hit back & told he's the champion i've been trying to get him to shut up for 8 years

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You could dig a bouncer in to get the right angle to make it go so high up in the air that the batsman loses sight of it - and get the second bounce to happen just before the base of the stumps

The batsmen wouldn't know what's going on

Prehaps a bowler can bowl over arm and make it grub to the end of the pitch.See what the umpires make of that,especially if the batting side needs 6 to win