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Is manou any chance of taking over if Brad hadden cant play in the 3rd test. They Have mention Ronchi but Manou had a solid year and is better with the gloves.

is Manou playing competive cricket anywhere at the moment as opposed to Ronchi?

heater31 wrote:is Manou playing competive cricket anywhere at the moment as opposed to Ronchi?

currently he is up in the northern territory playing club cricket.

Manou had a good year but i'd be very surprised if he was considered for Australian selection. Too old (better off giving a game to someone who'll still be around in 4 or 5 years), and i think needed to excel in more than one year to have any chance.

GWW wrote:Manou had a good year but i'd be very surprised if he was considered for Australian selection. Too old (better off giving a game to someone who'll still be around in 4 or 5 years), and i think needed to excel in more than one year to have any chance.

too old????????

29 years and 44 days too old??? i think not mate how old was gilchrist when he debuted? and how old was he when he retired? answer me those 2 questions please!

graham manou is the perfect replacement, last years pura cup keeper of the year is the testament to that, man in form must be picked on this occasion especially if its a one off!

the star wrote:

GWW wrote:Manou had a good year but i'd be very surprised if he was considered for Australian selection. Too old (better off giving a game to someone who'll still be around in 4 or 5 years), and i think needed to excel in more than one year to have any chance.

too old????????

29 years and 44 days too old??? i think not mate how old was gilchrist when he debuted? and how old was he when he retired? answer me those 2 questions please!

graham manou is the perfect replacement, last years pura cup keeper of the year is the testament to that, man in form must be picked on this occasion especially if its a one off!

I qualified "too old" by saying they're better off giving the job to a young guy who'll be around in 4 or 5 years, when Manou will probably have retired. Manou has only had one good year in 5, and as such doesn't deserve a Test spot, comparing him to a freak like Gilchrist is not really apt, because he was always seen as the long term replacement for Healy, and had performed at a high standard for 4 or 5 years before gaining Australian selection. So theres a bit of a difference there.

ronchi added to the squad

http://cricket.com.au/default.aspx?s=ne ... y&id=41467

LMAO. As if they'd put a Jellyback in the Aussie team. Maybe if we were playing the Bangas....

regards,

REB

Rik E Boy wrote:LMAO. As if they'd put a Jellyback in the Aussie team. Maybe if we were playing the Bangas....

regards,

REB

Agreed, Manou instead of Ronchi, Paine, Clingleffer and Hartley.....ROTFLMAO

GWW wrote:

the star wrote:

GWW wrote:Manou had a good year but i'd be very surprised if he was considered for Australian selection. Too old (better off giving a game to someone who'll still be around in 4 or 5 years), and i think needed to excel in more than one year to have any chance.

too old????????

29 years and 44 days too old??? i think not mate how old was gilchrist when he debuted? and how old was he when he retired? answer me those 2 questions please!

graham manou is the perfect replacement, last years pura cup keeper of the year is the testament to that, man in form must be picked on this occasion especially if its a one off!

I qualified "too old" by saying they're better off giving the job to a young guy who'll be around in 4 or 5 years, when Manou will probably have retired. Manou has only had one good year in 5, and as such doesn't deserve a Test spot, comparing him to a freak like Gilchrist is not really apt, because he was always seen as the long term replacement for Healy, and had performed at a high standard for 4 or 5 years before gaining Australian selection. So theres a bit of a difference there.

Depending on what they are after, I don't think that Gilly was a freak behind the stumps, his brilliance with the bat compensated for his sometimes sloppy keeping. I don't think that anyone has really excelled as a replacement for Haddin, I don't think the selectors thought that far ahead.

Lightning McQueen wrote:Depending on what they are after, I don't think that Gilly was a freak behind the stumps, his brilliance with the bat compensated for his sometimes sloppy keeping. I don't think that anyone has really excelled as a replacement for Haddin, I don't think the selectors thought that far ahead.

So why was Hartley plucked from 2nd XI cricket and sent on an Australia A tour to Pakistan in 2005? Why has Ronchi been picked in Australia A games for teh last two years? Why was Tim PAine sent abck to teh COE to work on his 'keeping last year and is now #1 Keeper at Tassie. Selectors have long ear-marked Ronchi and HArtley as the long term 'keepers for Australia post Haddin. If Hartley hadn't had a relatively poor season with the bat this year he would probably be off to the Windies.

Manou was only 'keeper of the year becasue he has no pressure for his spot where as Ronchi, Haddin, Croswhaite, Paine Clingleffer and Smith didn't have full seasons behind the stumps like Manou did in Shield cricket. You play more games you get more votes.

1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:

Lightning McQueen wrote:Depending on what they are after, I don't think that Gilly was a freak behind the stumps, his brilliance with the bat compensated for his sometimes sloppy keeping. I don't think that anyone has really excelled as a replacement for Haddin, I don't think the selectors thought that far ahead.

So why was Hartley plucked from 2nd XI cricket and sent on an Australia A tour to Pakistan in 2005? Why has Ronchi been picked in Australia A games for teh last two years? Why was Tim PAine sent abck to teh COE to work on his 'keeping last year and is now #1 Keeper at Tassie. Selectors have long ear-marked Ronchi and HArtley as the long term 'keepers for Australia post Haddin. If Hartley hadn't had a relatively poor season with the bat this year he would probably be off to the Windies.

Manou was only 'keeper of the year becasue he has no pressure for his spot where as Ronchi, Haddin, Croswhaite, Paine Clingleffer and Smith didn't have full seasons behind the stumps like Manou did in Shield cricket. You play more games you get more votes.

Ronchi's one-day batting record has been outstanding at times, he is probably the closest match to Gilly out of any that are going around, Haddin can bat, but does he have the capabilites to open an innings and start smashing the bowling from the begining, I think Ronchi does. Maybe they might need to look at a one day keeper aswell as a test keeper, we have now lost a batting position with Gilly gone.

As for Manou winning the "keeper of the year", it was probably because SA spent twice as much time in the field as any other side, they're going to have to give away the SACA passes this year if they want spectators.

Lightning McQueen wrote:Depending on what they are after, I don't think that Gilly was a freak behind the stumps, his brilliance with the bat compensated for his sometimes sloppy keeping. I don't think that anyone has really excelled as a replacement for Haddin, I don't think the selectors thought that far ahead.

He was an all round freak cricketer (ie especially his batting, to average 50 or so in such an attacking manner, and be a competent gloveman), thats what i meant.

1980 Tassie Medalist wrote: Manou was only 'keeper of the year becasue he has no pressure for his spot where as Ronchi, Haddin, Croswhaite, Paine Clingleffer and Smith didn't have full seasons behind the stumps like Manou did in Shield cricket. You play more games you get more votes.

I'm not defending Manou here - but that's muddled thinking Tassie.
If those blokes were good enough to make the Aussie side, then they should be able to withstand the pressure of someone else trying to take their position in their state team.

Well ronchi and Haddin didn't get full seasons due to one A Gilchrist and in HAddin's case playing in teh one day squad as a batsman.

My point is some people in SA rave about Manou well their are some 2nd XI 'keepers who are arguably better than him (Smith NSW, Clingleffer Tas, and the young kid whe started off in vis side and then fell out of favour to a rejuvinated Croswhaite).

I'd have liked to see SA make a play for Clingleffer as he is a better gloveman and arguably a better bat than Manou now that he is seemingly out of favour in Tasmania.

1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:Well ronchi and Haddin didn't get full seasons due to one A Gilchrist and in HAddin's case playing in teh one day squad as a batsman.

My point is some people in SA rave about Manou well their are some 2nd XI 'keepers who are arguably better than him (Smith NSW, Clingleffer Tas, and the young kid whe started off in vis side and then fell out of favour to a rejuvinated Croswhaite).

I'd have liked to see SA make a play for Clingleffer as he is a better gloveman and arguably a better bat than Manou now that he is seemingly out of favour in Tasmania.

bollocks to that. Manou is the far superior glovesman

They'll just ask Emery to come out of retirement or find someone who has played for NSW and get them to wack the gloves on.

smithy wrote:They'll just ask Emery to come out of retirement or find someone who has played for NSW and get them to wack the gloves on.

Apparently Steve Rixon has already boarded the plane for the West Indies.

That's the way Gee Dubya and Smiffy. Now you're talking!

regards,

REB

brod wrote:

1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:Well ronchi and Haddin didn't get full seasons due to one A Gilchrist and in HAddin's case playing in teh one day squad as a batsman.

My point is some people in SA rave about Manou well their are some 2nd XI 'keepers who are arguably better than him (Smith NSW, Clingleffer Tas, and the young kid whe started off in vis side and then fell out of favour to a rejuvinated Croswhaite).

I'd have liked to see SA make a play for Clingleffer as he is a better gloveman and arguably a better bat than Manou now that he is seemingly out of favour in Tasmania.

bollocks to that. Manou is the far superior glovesman

Disagree brod- im tipping you havent seen much of clingleffer- he is a fantastic gloveman and a very solid dogged batsman- i was surprised Sa didnt make a play at him too.