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Australian Player Ratings Indian Tour

PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:27 pm
by Ned
M.Hayden 6 - Got off to a bad start in 1st test with couple of shocking umpire decisions, and couldn't get going for most of series. Played a couple of attacking cameo innings but overall disappointing. Tough decision for selectors do we stick with Hayden or look for replacement with the ashes in mind where Hayden will be nearing 38 years of age. Retire in Adelaide will be his 100th test fitting way to end.

S.Katich 8 - Brillant series by the Kat played the pace and spin well through out the tour, has cemented his spot for some time to come. Still think he is best suited to middle order,relishing as a opener for now.

R.Ponting 6 - Started the series with a bang making a brilliant hundred his first on Indian soil. A battle from there on with only the one more significant innings for the series. Once again when under pressure his captanincy was mediorce.

M.Hussey 9 - Mr Cricket was at his best on his first tour of India. A tick under 400 runs at average of 56. Australias leading batsmen and player of the tour.

M.Clarke 5.5 - Didn't look like the Clarke we have come to know, especially against the spin were he has made a name as one of the finest players of spin in world cricket. A century to his name in Dehli (dropped three times, once when in 20's sitter to Sharma ) but generally struggeld throughout. Also proved that his spin will only be of a part time substance.

S.Watson 6 - Looked good with bat early in series faded out longer the tour went. Not sure if he is number 6 quality, would be nice to give him the first two tests of the Australian Summer to find out. His bowling looked flat for alot of the time in the first three tests. Nagpur he was pick of the quicks and swung the ball. Gives it his all. Big question marks still there.

B.Haddin 4 - Hasn't had the start to a test career that we all thought he would. His keeping wasn't the best in the toughest keeping conditions. His batting also a concern few starts, too many soft get outs. No need to panic yet.

C.White 4 - Proved that he is not a frontline spinner and should of never been selected to fill that role. Showed he is a capable batsmen with a good head on his shoulders. I am one that hopes he comes back as a top six batsmen in years to come. Still only 25 plenty of time.

B.Lee 3 - On wickets that were flat and not productive for fast bowling really battled. No swing for him and didn't worry the Indians at any time.

S.Clark 2 - The number 3 bowler in the world didn't look it. Straight up and down with no swing, and lacked his zip of the wickets. Looked very pedestrian at times with the Indains prepared to sit on him. Will be looking forward to the Gabba, his record in last 12 months warrants his selection.

P.Siddle 4 - Strange choice to replace the injured Clark in the second test. Got belted around a bit at times. Showed enough with 4 wickets he will be there abouts in future, still young.

J.Krezja 8 - Only played the one test being the last, claming 12 wickets. Got belted as well at times, showed good character to keep throwing the ball up. Spins the ball big, Excellant debut. Now the Australias number one spinner, no reason why he cant keep it.

M.Johnson 7 - Pick of the quicks, impressive all series. Very strong spells were he bowled quick and could get the ball to bounce around their throats even on the most lifeless wickets. Gusty effort.

Re: Australian Player Ratings Indian Tour

PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:21 pm
by Rik E Boy
Overrated.

White - 2 not up to test standard and a liability.
Hayden - 5 a key wicket that simply didn't do the job. Robbed in the first test but no tons means he can't possibly have the same rating as Ponting who at least got a century first up.

Underrated

Siddle - 5 performed reasonably well on a road. Not the easiest initiation.

The rest spot on I reckon.

regards,

REB

Re: Australian Player Ratings Indian Tour

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:15 pm
by Killa
I agree White perform well to his ability. I think he batted well in his last two tests. He might be a better No.6 batsman than watson because he has great ability to build an innings. Some of his bats in the last test he needed to get on with it. That mite have cost him a test 50.

Rik E Boy wrote:Overrated.

White - 2 not up to test standard and a liability.
Hayden - 5 a key wicket that simply didn't do the job. Robbed in the first test but no tons means he can't possibly have the same rating as Ponting who at least got a century first up.

Underrated

Siddle - 5 performed reasonably well on a road. Not the easiest initiation.

The rest spot on I reckon.

regards,

REB


WTF Explain why you think of this because he was put in a spot what he shouldn't have and the fact he was averaging over 40 in his last two matches.

Re: Australian Player Ratings Indian Tour

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:51 pm
by Ned
Herald Sun did the same thing today, rating the players for the series. Pretty similar result.

Re: Australian Player Ratings Indian Tour

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:20 am
by Rik E Boy
Killa wrote:I agree White perform well to his ability. I think he batted well in his last two tests. He might be a better No.6 batsman than watson because he has great ability to build an innings. Some of his bats in the last test he needed to get on with it. That mite have cost him a test 50.



WTF Explain why you think of this because he was put in a spot what he shouldn't have and the fact he was averaging over 40 in his last two matches.


It was because he was put in a spot that he shouldn't have been that I say he wasn't up to test standard and a liability. You know what you can do with your WTF...try reading one of the bazillion friggin posts I've made about this Lemon. I agree with you that he batted well in his last two digs but to isolate a couple of favourable results to enhance your arguement is bulltish. For example, the Don averaged zero in his last test. I've said all along that White was an 'Ashley Giles' selection - the worst or one of the worst of the decade and I stand by my comments above. A liability.

regards,

REB

Re: Australian Player Ratings Indian Tour

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:35 am
by Drop Bear
Rik E Boy wrote: Hayden - 5 a key wicket that simply didn't do the job. Robbed in the first test but no tons means he can't possibly have the same rating as Ponting who at least got a century first up.


Out to 3 dodgy LBW decisions. Makes it hard to score runs when you're fired out everytime the ball hits your pads.

Re: Australian Player Ratings Indian Tour

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:37 am
by Killa
White would have been better at 6 than watson on the tour. This bloke is no lemon. He was starting learn how to bat in test because first 2 test he was trying force way to runs with hard hands. He is no frontline spinner and his first class career he had got most of wickets when warne was victoria. This means that ponting got no idea in setting fields or just don't have confidents in his bowling anymore. In the last test should have move to six and play another bowler instead of watson like a siddle or bollinger. I know he got some wickets but he had done nothing with the bat with only one big score. When batting at that position.

However the bloke should have replaced jaques with cullen or casson not a batsman was nether going to get a game with there was enough batsman there already with hussey could open there is watson or white fill in the middle if needed.

Re: Australian Player Ratings Indian Tour

PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 1:19 pm
by ORDoubleBlues
Ned wrote:
R.Ponting 6 - Started the series with a bang making a brilliant hundred his first on Indian soil. A battle from there on with only the one more significant innings for the series. Once again when under pressure his captanincy was mediorce.



His brain fade in the final test will probably stick with him for some time.

Re: Australian Player Ratings Indian Tour

PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 1:47 pm
by rod_rooster
Killa wrote:White would have been better at 6 than watson on the tour. This bloke is no lemon. He was starting learn how to bat in test because first 2 test he was trying force way to runs with hard hands. He is no frontline spinner and his first class career he had got most of wickets when warne was victoria. This means that ponting got no idea in setting fields or just don't have confidents in his bowling anymore. In the last test should have move to six and play another bowler instead of watson like a siddle or bollinger. I know he got some wickets but he had done nothing with the bat with only one big score. When batting at that position.

However the bloke should have replaced jaques with cullen or casson not a batsman was nether going to get a game with there was enough batsman there already with hussey could open there is watson or white fill in the middle if needed.


I am still trying to find anyone with an explanation as to how White was batting below Haddin in the order. Anyone? Seriously i cannot figure it out because White is so far superior with the bat to Haddin it's not funny.

Re: Australian Player Ratings Indian Tour

PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:56 pm
by wycbloods
rod_rooster wrote:
Killa wrote:White would have been better at 6 than watson on the tour. This bloke is no lemon. He was starting learn how to bat in test because first 2 test he was trying force way to runs with hard hands. He is no frontline spinner and his first class career he had got most of wickets when warne was victoria. This means that ponting got no idea in setting fields or just don't have confidents in his bowling anymore. In the last test should have move to six and play another bowler instead of watson like a siddle or bollinger. I know he got some wickets but he had done nothing with the bat with only one big score. When batting at that position.

However the bloke should have replaced jaques with cullen or casson not a batsman was nether going to get a game with there was enough batsman there already with hussey could open there is watson or white fill in the middle if needed.


I am still trying to find anyone with an explanation as to how White was batting below Haddin in the order. Anyone? Seriously i cannot figure it out because White is so far superior with the bat to Haddin it's not funny.


I would like to hear it as well RR White is a far better batsmen than Haddin will ever be.